Rob's followers act like he's Jesus, suffering on the road for all of us, so that we may live free from the stain of original sin.
All anyone is asking for is some damn evidence that the guy is actually doing what he says he is. I have evidence of every lame 5 mile run I've ever done, none of which were done to raise awareness, heal the world, save the whales or GET MY NAME IN THE GOD DAMN GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS.
Kev -
Please answer:
1. Do you think his 40 mile efforts at sub 7 min mile pace through the desert are genuine?
2. Why have they stopped since this thread started?
3. What do you now think about his pro cycling career?
4. What do you think about his marathon and half marathon pbs vanishing from his website?
5. You're not there either. Is your mind open to the POSSIBILITY he has lied and cheated?
CoachKev wrote:
If you really want to see what he is truly made of them let him continue to run without any more abuse or slander.
He can run all he wants. But if the man wants to be acknowledged as the 'Fastest Ever to Cross America on Foot' he can expect to be scrutinized in some way or another. So far he hasn't shown much when it comes to data: GPS, cadence, HR, etc. It seems logical that documenting the data is a first priority in an attempt like this one.
The way he and his friends/supporters have reacted to the questions that have risen is laughable, really. Some degree of self-criticism is hard to be found.
CoachKev wrote:
Kevlar wrote:Where's Kev gone?
I am still here and have read all the threads. There is nothing new to add apart from none of you people have yet to turn up and run with Rob. It's the weekend now so where are your excuses?
I have to add that this is really affecting Rob , mentally and physically. If you really want to see what he is truly made of them let him continue to run without any more abuse or slander. Run with him as repeatedly requested and post up evidence of your time with him. I think repeatedly bashing him is cowardly and to call his past childhood into question is a dreadful thing to do to someone who has suffered so much.
Rob is suffering in this run, of that there is no doubt, making him suffer more with posts like many of you have done is terrible and you should be ashamed.
Let the man run
Give it a rest buddy. If he had nothing to hide, a thread on Letsrun.com wouldn't bother him in the least.
I haven't seen much bashing, but just a lot of calling out of glaring inconsistencies and fairly obvious embellishments or fabrications.
Robert may have some very fine qualities. But he also embellishes the truth, sometimes flat out lies, and is apparently riding in the RV for some of this trek across America. Finding out that he is really a swell guy doesn't change those facts.
Kevlar wrote:
Kev -
Please answer:
1. Do you think his 40 mile efforts at sub 7 min mile pace through the desert are genuine?
2. Why have they stopped since this thread started?
3. What do you now think about his pro cycling career?
4. What do you think about his marathon and half marathon pbs vanishing from his website?
5. You're not there either. Is your mind open to the POSSIBILITY he has lied and cheated?
Please CoachKev, answer a single ONE of these questions.
Billy jeans wrote:
CoachKev wrote:Rob is suffering in this run, of that there is no doubt, making him suffer more with posts like many of you have done is terrible and you should be ashamed.
I thought he could switch off pain. He could hammer a nail through his hand without a problem apparently so what's the problem with doing some distance running? Why's he suffering?
They are setting up the "The haters forced him to abandon" excuse.
CoachKev wrote:
Kevlar wrote:Where's Kev gone?
I am still here and have read all the threads. There is nothing new to add apart from none of you people have yet to turn up and run with Rob. It's the weekend now so where are your excuses?
CoachKev a.k.a. Kevin O’Rourke has received a mention by Rob on his website, because he performs his duties as official spokesman so well. Congrats Kev!
http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/supporters-help/Can someone just ask these two simple questions:
1. Why did he use a picture of another guy for his pro cycling claims?
2. Why can't he just upload the GPS data.
Since the start of this thread, we've got less data, not more. They pulled all the tracking info off his website.
That alone, is not a good sign.
He'll quit as soon as someone starts watching him. He may well pretend they were being 'aggressive' or something.
Film everything you do people.
I guess you missed this part:
"but who does actually strive to do the deeds."
Key word is "actually".
Not-A-Minion wrote:
CoachKev wrote:I am still here and have read all the threads. There is nothing new to add apart from none of you people have yet to turn up and run with Rob. It's the weekend now so where are your excuses?
CoachKev a.k.a. Kevin O’Rourke has received a mention by Rob on his website, because he performs his duties as official spokesman so well. Congrats Kev!
http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/supporters-help/
Lol.
Andy Persson is mentioned as well.
Is this a list of his minions?
Not-A-Minion wrote:
CoachKev a.k.a. Kevin O’Rourke has received a mention by Rob on his website, because he performs his duties as official spokesman so well. Congrats Kev!
http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk/supporters-help/
I aspire to be on that list too:
Rob Young is the real deal, the Real McCoy, the genuine article.
There's nothing this man is not capable of.
He is an inspiring inspiration.
In his video he states, "The two things about me are being loyal and being honest."
Can he please explain the PR lies and pro cycling lies.
"Sending congrats to MarathonManUK.
Incredible effort"
COLDPLAY
Oh, no, I see
A spider web, it's tangled up with me,
And I lost my head,
The thought of all the stupid things I'd said, (pro cyclist, three back to back marathons off the couch @ 3hr pace, 30 min 10k pb, 1.08 half, 2.41 marathon)
Oh, no, what's this?
A spider web, and I'm caught in the middle,
So I turned to run (or ride in the rv)
The thought of all the stupid things I've done
narcissistdetector wrote:
We need someone other than CoachKlev to get confirmation from Lieberman...
UK Observer wrote:I had the same issue, but it livened up the day.
Can I just get confirmation of were this is at.....
RV Incident: No Response
Triathlete Claims: Proved True
Pro Cycling: Suspect Evidence/Lack of Proof/False?
PB Stats: Partially Amended / Suspect
Peace Champion 2015: Proved True
Expert Testimony (Lieberman): Proved True
370 Marathons: Likely True (At least from when his supporters joined him on every run)
Transcon Race: Tracking in place but not universally accepted, suspected to be cheating?
If I've missed anything please pipe up. From the above I'd draw the conclusion that performances have highly likely been exaggerated or misrecorded (I..e 7km duatlon split). However, there is still the possibility he Is actually doing this legit.
CoachKlev [sic] didn't get that confirmation, I did. I teach at Ole Miss, have been contributing to this forum since 2004, and emailed Lieberman from my university account:
agussow@olemiss.eduPlease don't accuse me of being a sock puppet. I'm just a skeptic, and my skepticism is an equal opportunity SOB. You're entitled to your own opinions, as they say, but you're not entitled to your own facts. Lieberman did indeed say those things about Rob Young. I'm fine if somebody wants to claim that Young has a nasty habit of mixing truth with falsehood, as long as they acknowledge that the quote from Lieberman is true.
CoachKev wrote:
Kevlar wrote:Where's Kev gone?
I am still here and have read all the threads. There is nothing new to add apart from none of you people have yet to turn up and run with Rob. It's the weekend now so where are your excuses?
I have to add that this is really affecting Rob , mentally and physically. If you really want to see what he is truly made of them let him continue to run without any more abuse or slander. Run with him as repeatedly requested and post up evidence of your time with him. I think repeatedly bashing him is cowardly and to call his past childhood into question is a dreadful thing to do to someone who has suffered so much.
Rob is suffering in this run, of that there is no doubt, making him suffer more with posts like many of you have done is terrible and you should be ashamed.
Let the man run
Don't worry Coach ... the current US 6-day record holder (606 miles) is making plans to join Rob next week for a couple of days.
I really hope someone actually goes to run with him before he drops out, otherwise this story will be told very differently.
Natty Dread wrote:
Don't worry Coach ... the current US 6-day record holder (606 miles) is making plans to join Rob next week for a couple of days.
Making plans, yeah...
Young will have dropped out by then. And he'll be writing his memoirs.
RossiRat wrote:
I see you skinny little girls have found another project. This comes to mind:
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Hey, they should have Mike Rossi drive the RV!