COLEMAN WILL COMPETE AT WORLDS (Even though he had 3 whereabout failures in the last year)

ex-runner wrote:

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

Thanks for the update, Wejo. This is a bit crazy. So Coleman is getting off because the DCO was 1 minute outside (8:01am) the one hour testing window on June 6, 2018?! ??‍♂️

And apparently April 1, 2018 to April 1, 2019 (his third test is also a filing failure to be backdated) is considered more than one year. Poorly written rules by WADA. Poor enforcement showing up for the control late. Absolutely an embarrassment for all parties involved. And are any of us surprised?

This is a joke.

Cheers for finally catching up

Being a former professional I always give athletes the benefit of the doubt. I don’t believe you knew all the information as has now been laid out. You were assuming and you assumed correctly, but when it comes to someone’s reputation I don’t feel that’s appropriate to do.

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Cheers for finally catching up

Being a former professional I always give athletes the benefit of the doubt. I don’t believe you knew all the information as has now been laid out. You were assuming and you assumed correctly, but when it comes to someone’s reputation I don’t feel that’s appropriate to do.

^^This is so true, and you have good reasoning. Respect.

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Cheers for finally catching up

Being a former professional I always give athletes the benefit of the doubt. I don’t believe you knew all the information as has now been laid out. You were assuming and you assumed correctly, but when it comes to someone’s reputation I don’t feel that’s appropriate to do.

I wasn't assuming. I simply read the articles available to everyone on multiple sources as I implored you to do also.

Thanks.

Positively wrote:

Here's the infos (quarter 1/4-wise).

3+2+2+2 in 2018.

2+3+6 so far in 2019.

No idea why they are targetting him lately?

They know he's got the cash ($$$) to pay off the necessary ppl in the hierarchical chain.

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

wejo wrote:

We took a crack at explaining all of this here:

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/why-was-christian-coleman-cleared-we-explain-everything-you-need-to-know-about-his-usada-case/

Thanks for the update, Wejo. This is a bit crazy. So Coleman is getting off because the DCO was 1 minute outside (8:01am) the one hour testing window on June 6, 2018?! ??‍♂️

And apparently April 1, 2018 to April 1, 2019 (his third test is also a filing failure to be backdated) is considered more than one year. Poorly written rules by WADA. Poor enforcement showing up for the control late. Absolutely an embarrassment for all parties involved. And are any of us surprised?

This is a joke.

I thought this was a clown show when it was first announced he was cleared. now after reading the article this is ridiculous. an arbitrary rule that backdated one type of violation but not another.

I almost wonder if someone was influenced to change the time of the first failure so Coleman could get off. That just seems way too convenient and my bullcrap detector is going crazy. If the missed tests were made public as they occur the public could know and no one could go back and alter records. I do not trust USADA or WADA. As soon as I found out the suspension was for missed tests I assumed there would be some loophole that would allow him to get off.

That's why they spend all their resources catching the Little Fish. You know, to prove they're on the job protecting all of us and ensuring clean sport. They keep the pipeline full of Little Fish Busts while letting the Big Fish swim free.

Kevin Hadsell wrote:

That's right, none wrote:

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What incentive does USADA have to catch anyone? Particularly a Big Fish?

They have none. That’s why it’s suppose to be done independently. But. Uhhhh....

And Alan Abrahamson has this take on it (USADA screwed up big time)

https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2019/9/2/q671frgu0owwde6y4mykn44y72s0aw

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

I almost wonder if someone was influenced to change the time of the first failure so Coleman could get off. That just seems way too convenient and my bullcrap detector is going crazy. If the missed tests were made public as they occur the public could know and no one could go back and alter records. I do not trust USADA or WADA. As soon as I found out the suspension was for missed tests I assumed there would be some loophole that would allow him to get off.

The data are clear. Coleman was notified of a Missed Test on June 12th. Somehow it became a "Filing Failure" somewhere down the pipeline (maybe after the Athlete's Response a couple of weeks later, or maybe when higher powers intervened after the 3rd Where-abouts).

On June 12, Coleman was told he’d missed a test. In a June 26 letter of explanation, he said he had estimated his length of stay in Oregon and was off by a day — that is, he got back to Tennessee a day later than he had indicated in his update.

Being at Drake, where he'd be tested, is not exactly a dodge. But I don't like this way of exculpation at all.

zxcvzcvx wrote:

Being at Drake, where he'd be tested, is not exactly a dodge. But I don't like this way of exculpation at all.

Umm... why would he be tested at Drake????

It's not likely he actually competed there or something.

Despite the doping apologist Abrahamson's objections, it is irrelevant when Coleman passed tests (the rules themselves say this).

In fact, coming back from Rome would be the ideal time to start a doping cycle, with 6 weeks until the next event. Just make sure you aren't caught by the testers, by having phoney wherebouts.

ex-runner wrote:

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

Being a former professional I always give athletes the benefit of the doubt. I don’t believe you knew all the information as has now been laid out. You were assuming and you assumed correctly, but when it comes to someone’s reputation I don’t feel that’s appropriate to do.

I wasn't assuming. I simply read the articles available to everyone on multiple sources as I implored you to do also.

Thanks.

Apparently I have reading comprehension issues then. My bad.

system-beater wrote:

Despite the doping apologist Abrahamson's objections, it is irrelevant when Coleman passed tests (the rules themselves say this).

In fact, coming back from Rome would be the ideal time to start a doping cycle, with 6 weeks until the next event. Just make sure you aren't caught by the testers, by having phoney wherebouts.

Plus, you can always go for "injury therapy" at Nike HQ in Eugene.

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

Being a former professional I always give athletes the benefit of the doubt. I don’t believe you knew all the information as has now been laid out. You were assuming and you assumed correctly, but when it comes to someone’s reputation I don’t feel that’s appropriate to do.

Concentric, do you still think Coleman should sue USADA for staining his reputation, or do you wish you had waited for all the information to be laid out?

BigTimeRetiredCoach wrote:

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

Being a former professional I always give athletes the benefit of the doubt. I don’t believe you knew all the information as has now been laid out. You were assuming and you assumed correctly, but when it comes to someone’s reputation I don’t feel that’s appropriate to do.

Concentric, do you still think Coleman should sue USADA for staining his reputation, or do you wish you had waited for all the information to be laid out?

I still think he should sue for damages. Per USADA/WADA rules, he had no reason to be sanctioned and now his reputation has been damaged.

Anyone know if Coleman's manager Emanuel Hudson and Darryl Hudson are related?

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

I still think he should sue for damages. Per USADA/WADA rules, he had no reason to be sanctioned and now his reputation has been damaged.

Never do drug tests. When you get directed somewhere post race just make an excuse and go home, "oh I had an emergency." When they turn up to test you, "I'm not home."

Concentric Hero - Eccentric Zero wrote:

BigTimeRetiredCoach wrote:

Concentric, do you still think Coleman should sue USADA for staining his reputation, or do you wish you had waited for all the information to be laid out?

I still think he should sue for damages. Per USADA/WADA rules, he had no reason to be sanctioned and now his reputation has been damaged.

So an athlete who committed what most would have understood to be a doping violation, with three consecutive missed tests over a year, should sue the authorities for finding a technicality that ensures he gets off and thus preserves his reputation. The damages would be huge. Or perhaps not.