"All NFL Wide Receivers can break 50 sec in the 400m"

Ofc they could, most of them could, if not right away then easily with a couple months training that's what I said...

ohia wrote:

if we were to test this out today - no prep, put them all on a track, none could break 50.

Pretty sure Ted Ginn at many if not all points in his NFL career could go sub 50. Guy was 46 in HS and coulda gone faster.

This thread is just disrespectful to have on this site. Think about the conversation you had and how dumb that sounds. Please delete this now and let’s make the sport of track and field not a laughingstock to be compared to stupid sh*t. Much appreciated.

consider this wrote:

Star wrote:

If you scheduled a meet next week, I doubt any of them would break 400.

Not without at least 6 weeks of specific training.

I suspect there are some who can. In the old days Robert Smith and Darrell Green were sub 46 and there are likely some guys like that around now.

No they weren't.

They were very fast 100 runners.

They were never sub 46.

That takes more than talent. They didn't have that and they didn't prepare. Stop with your imaginary stuff.

And yes I was a 400 guy who was that fast.

crumpet wrote:

consider this wrote:

I suspect there are some who can. In the old days Robert Smith and Darrell Green were sub 46 and there are likely some guys like that around now.

No they weren't.

They were very fast 100 runners.

They were never sub 46.

That takes more than talent. They didn't have that and they didn't prepare. Stop with your imaginary stuff.

And yes I was a 400 guy who was that fast.

This is a thread addressing sub-50 400m for N.F.L. receivers.

I assume you agree that the majority of N.F.L. receivers are sub-22.50 200m men. If you agree most N.F.L. receivers are sub-200m men today, there really is not much debate regarding N.F.L. receivers and sub-50 400m. I realize there used to be outliers like Steve Largent and Cris Carter who probably could not sprint sub-23.50 200m. Post-1990 with N.F.L. combine and N.F.L. teams placing so much emphasis on measurables, Cris Carter/Steve Largent types do not make it on N.F.L. rosters anymore.

We know that this is a little overdue but we kind of want to revisit this conversation because it still got us think so we made a video to see fully explain our sides, CHECK IT OUT!!

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This is version 1,027 of the same thread over and over.

No. The average person can't run a 60 quarter, an 80 quarter, a 120 quarter. The average person would walk, or start walking at 130 meters.

No. The average pro athlete can't run a sub-50 quarter. Or a sub-60. Or a sub-70. Outliers maybe can get under 90. As in, 10 players from the NFL's list of active players. Maybe two or three dozen pro soccer players can run under 70 on a good day.

No. The average person can't run a sub 5, sub 6, sub 7, sub 8, sub 9, sub 10, sub 11, or sub 12 mile off the couch. Given a year to prepare, maybe a handful could run a mile.

There's a reason we are, or were runners. We could run. Nearly everyone else can't. Deal.

It's possible you were a 54x sprinter with 10.6 100 meter accounting for incorrect measurements (90 meters), and also hand timed by an old lady.

A solid 10.60 verified indeed, no need to tell your name. I believe you.

Look. This dude is fit. Ripped. Too large for some, but it works for him. Clearly he can't run, right? But he can do HIIT, right? So watch. Look at his first "100." Then scroll forward a bit, and watch his fifth "100." Then tell me he could run 400 in 90. Average.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSfy6jcgpWY&t=719s

but you agree ... wrote:

This is a thread addressing sub-50 400m for N.F.L. receivers.

I assume you agree that the majority of N.F.L. receivers are sub-22.50 200m men. If you agree most N.F.L. receivers are sub-200m men today, there really is not much debate regarding N.F.L. receivers and sub-50 400m. I realize there used to be outliers like Steve Largent and Cris Carter who probably could not sprint sub-23.50 200m. Post-1990 with N.F.L. combine and N.F.L. teams placing so much emphasis on measurables, Cris Carter/Steve Largent types do not make it on N.F.L. rosters anymore.

I ran 22.5 for 200m in high school but succeeded more in the 400 where my HS best was only 50.2.

So I disagree with your assumption that anyone who can read n 22.5 can break 50.

I trained for the 400 specifically and raced it often.

(I did split 48 in college and ran 49.50 out the hole).

How many mid 22 women can run sub 50?

It takes more than raw speed to break 50.

You need to train speed endurance and these guys aren’t doing that.

I’m giving perspective from someone who broke 50 and didn’t have their talent. But realizes you must train fir the 400.

0bi wrote:

Xylitol wrote:

Your scenario seems very unlikely. Anyhow, I can’t imagine any of the top WRs Antonio Brown, Mike Evans, OBJ, JJ etc NOT being ale to jog two 25s back to back. These are ridiculous athletes and very highly trained both aerobic ally and anaerobically. Many of them already have track PRs either under 50 or indicative of under 50.

All you 4:30 milers and local 5k road race winners just can’t imagine how good of an athlete these NFL WRs guys are

Ofc they could, most of them could, if not right away then easily with a couple months training that's what I said...

You nailed it!

All these women ran a 22 something 200 and a sub 50.00, Marita Koch, Valerie Briscoe Hooks, Chandra Cheesborough and there are a lot more.

What NFL receiver can't break 23 in a 200m, I was running 25 in junior high. With a couple weeks of training to run a 49 400m they could do it.

FFF wrote:

Look. This dude is fit. Ripped. Too large for some, but it works for him. Clearly he can't run, right? But he can do HIIT, right? So watch. Look at his first "100." Then scroll forward a bit, and watch his fifth "100." Then tell me he could run 400 in 90. Average.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSfy6jcgpWY&t=719s

First, who is this man? Was he even in the NFL? Plus if he was he doesn’t have the body of an average NFL Wide Receiver that we see. This guy would likely be a DE or a tight end but no that isn’t a receiver. And if somehow I didn’t do my research and his is, he is definitely an outlier to the entire WR discussion

Didn't you post on here a year or two ago that you were a high school and college sub-4:05 one mile runner? I know you have stated your experience training as a middle distance runner on this message board. Now you are backing away from your prior posts stating you were a high school and college middle distance runner. If you were a middle distance runner, it is not uncommon that one does not also max out one's 200/400 potential while training as a middle distance runner.

Guys who participated in T&F prior to 1980 in U.S. may have raced 220 yards dash and 440 yards dash. Four-hundred-forty yards dash in U.S. was a one turn stagger tactical race. Many who raced 220 yards dash and 440 yard dash in U.S. prior to 1980 had 440 yard dash personal best which did not match one's 220 yard dash personal best. Is that you? Did you really race 220 yard dash and 440 yard dash as opposed to 200m & 400m?

Karl Farmer ran 48.1 for 440 yards in high school and 45.5 400 meters the next year to finish second in the national championships. Nehemiad ran 44.3 in a relay.

KT1 wrote:

The Riot wrote:

I would say a very high percentage have the potential to break 50 if they trained for it for awhile. However, without specific training, the vast majority would run out of gas at about 100 meters. Everything they do is designed to develop explosive quickness over 10-30 meters.

+1 Exactly

This and many aren't really that fast, many are nimble and agile but really track and field "slow" and virtually all are too muscular to run a 50 second 400m dash.

They play the slot the home where slow usually White guys go. But you are right there aren't many Largent or even slower guys anymore in the league.

FFF wrote:

This is version 1,027 of the same thread over and over.

No. The average person can't run a 60 quarter, an 80 quarter, a 120 quarter. The average person would walk, or start walking at 130 meters.

No. The average pro athlete can't run a sub-50 quarter. Or a sub-60. Or a sub-70. Outliers maybe can get under 90. As in, 10 players from the NFL's list of active players. Maybe two or three dozen pro soccer players can run under 70 on a good day.

No. The average person can't run a sub 5, sub 6, sub 7, sub 8, sub 9, sub 10, sub 11, or sub 12 mile off the couch. Given a year to prepare, maybe a handful could run a mile.

There's a reason we are, or were runners. We could run. Nearly everyone else can't. Deal.

I see people at the gym of all ages/body types running miles well under 10min, let alone a single mile. Yeah, it's a treadmill, but very few people have it set at less than 6mph unless they're walking.

I think you drastically - DRASTICALLY - underestimate the speed and running ability of humans as a species, let alone world class athletes.

This post by FFF is the most retarded of all of the exceptionally retarded posts ever on LR. The average pro athlete can't run a 6:00 mile pace for only a 1/4 mile? Dude, a college soccer team's fitness test at the start of the year is the Cooper Test and most make it over 2 miles in 12 minutes. I mean come on, have his parents forgiven themselves yet for not working hard enough to make him even mildly intelligent? I blame them for this.

There's probably a lot of 10 high sprinters who can't break 50. Don't know why people are assuming that just because they're NFL players with comparable speed that they can all break 50. If you saw a high school sprinter run 10.7 are you going to assume he can break 50 without training?