Semenya wins in court, is able to race all distances without lowering her testosterone

Hhshhsh wrote:

Honest answers here only:

When watching a marathon where Kipchoge, Farah... compete. When they cut to the women race and interrupt the men race and give equal or higher air time to the women race, what is your first though?

How many NBA/College games have you attended in person or watched on TV? How many WNBA/women College games have you attended or watched (from beg to end) on TV?

What if the level of play on the Female side would increase. Would you watch it more?

I'm fine watching women's running because a) women train with men, I know for most teams at least on easy days guys and girls do some running together even if its only a warmup/cooldown and b) female runners are attractive.

I do not find female basketball players attractive so I would not want to watch women's basketball even though many of the female ballers are great athletes.

track chick wrote:

What I don't understand is how anyone who read anything about this condition, and understood the biology of it and the advantages it confers, could hold their head up and compete in races. I know I couldn't.

Money, fame and a ruthless desire to win.

I can't pity Semenya much at all, considering her wealth and years of running with this unfair advantage. If she loves running as much as she professes to, she would either take the minimal dose of HRT which she took during her time under the previous ruling when her times slowed considerably, or race against the men. No-one is 'stopping her running' or racing. Very disengenious individual.

I'm just amazed at how nice everyone is being about her. Isn't the world a lovely place now - I don't think if it was a man who was blatantly cheating and appealing bans that people would be so nice about him. Its because women are the ones expected to be nice, and understanding, and non-aggressive.

From the shadows wrote:

Quite surprised by what I read here.

A lot of intersex are actually not XY. They have XX cells, XXY ones, even XXYYY. It is way more complex. You have people (often from Zambia or this area btw) with internal ovotestis and testis. Where should they compete?

Now you tell me !! I was recently at the Zambezi, and the nightclubs of Lusaka now seem to good to be true, no wonder those clits felt so big

Kvothe wrote:

I do not find female basketball players attractive so I would not want to watch women's basketball even though many of the female ballers are great athletes.

Like Semenya, ya mean.

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Having Semenya dominate the 800 is essentially the same as having a decent high school boy rabbit the 800. Both have testes. Having testosterone levels 10 times or more that of your competitors is pretty much an unfair advantage.

Surely one could argue that having any genetic advantage is 'unfair' then ?

And neither a high school boy or Semenya has to ever worry about getting pregnant, menstruation, maternity leave or any of those biological concerns that other competitors in the women's division have to deal with.

She was brought up as a GIRL. You imbecile.

Ok. Game over. I will never watch or follow woman's athletics, until they put a total and complete stop to allowing any person with a "Y" chromosome compete as a woman. I hope that all the sponsors quit until it is fixed. Wherever possible, I will avoid their products.

what are you talking about? wrote:

Lefalize PED wrote:

Being a guy doesn’t guarantee you can compete with elite women in any event. Get over it and work harder if you don’t like it.

Mid tier men would be gold medalist in the female category.

A 14 year old boy has run a second faster than the womens 800m WR, it's not just "mid tier men." Many dozens of 15 year old boys have run faster. Every year, a few 16 year old boys run faster.

This of course is the 800m womens WR holder, an XX woman with unlimited state sponsored doping.

I understand why the handful of genetically XY women currently in the spotlight would be fighting to compete in the Women category. It is their right to push for that. But that doesnt mean they should be allowed to compete as women in athletic events.

If they are women, and it's a womens event, they should be able to compete. If it's an event based on XY or whatever, then that's fine also as long as they match that. All based on the legal definitions.

And if you don't like it, you can suck on her big hairy balls.

Semenya is very wise because she limits herself from running faster,she can ran 1:57 on 800m

hmmmmhmmmmm wrote:

If they are women, and it's a womens event, they should be able to compete. If it's an event based on XY or whatever, then that's fine also as long as they match that. All based on the legal definitions.

46XY, same as all the men on the planet; testes - like all the men; male levels of testosterone; no ovaries and no womb - just like all the men. So, explain again how such an athlete fits the female category for sports?

hmmhmmmhmmm wrote:

Surely one could argue that having any genetic advantage is 'unfair' then ?

No. The issue isn't having advantage - everyone looks to be faster, stronger or better in some way than their competitors - but an advantage that isn't compatible with the category in which it is exercised; having male levels of testosterone while competing against females.

*mid-tier high school boys.

IAAF not backing down.

https://twitter.com/nzaccardi/status/1135974130409451520

minong wrote:

IAAF not backing down.

https://twitter.com/nzaccardi/status/1135974130409451520

Good.

This is an obamanation. Democrats are nasty.