Half Marathon WR holder Abraham Kiptum busted by Bio Passport!!!!!!!!

Indeed, we think all Westerners are gaming the TUE/"anti-doping" system too.

Why would Nike protect Kipchoge if he were doping but not Kiptum?

The new LRC article has all the info.

“He tell me, ‘I don’t understand exactly what is happened because I never do nothing wrong. I don’t know how my body [reacts] to the altitude or with my training or what I eat.'”

Kiptum was notified of irregularities in his ABP on March 27 by the AIU and asked to respond with an explanation. Kiptum emailed the AIU back on April 1, writing that he did not have an explanation as he claimed not to have doped.

I don’t know exactly what to say because I don’t have this information,'”

Indeed, how can you explain so-called ABP passport violations when you don't dope?

Even PhD medical scientists can barely explain it. This is another tool against those who won't play ball in the system.

On the other hand, if you *DO* dope, then you just make up whatever story the IAAF admin honchos will believe.

Then his own agent (Spanish) inverts the judicial system and want him to "prove" he is not guilty? Thrown under the bus.

Juan Pineda should be banned from the sport alongside Aden, Rosa, Canova, Hermens...

Some honest poster on letsrun - is there another one?

KIPTUM BUSTED wrote:

https://twitter.com/ChrisChavez/status/1121826960877989888

Well this changes the race for second this weekend.

Phantasy Star wrote:

Juan Pineda should be banned from the sport alongside Aden, Rosa, Canova, Hermens...

Any agent willing to talk to LRC should be banned.

rojo wrote:

To say he came out of nowhere may be a tiny bit misleading (although as Jonathan Gault said, "I follow running for a living and I've never heard of him." )

Before the WR he had run 27:44 for 10k, 59:36 for the half and 2:05:26 for the marathon.

The 1st results we see for the 29 year old are in 2015 - 2:11:36 for 3rd in Rabat. In 2016, he ran 59:36 for the half in Copenhagen. In 2017, he ran a road 10k in 27:44, 60:06 for the half and 2:05:26 for martheathon before setting the WR last year in the half and running 2:04:16 in Abu Dhabi.

Given that 58:18 is 27:38 pace for 10k, and the man's pr was 27:44, he kind of did come out of no where. Sad but certainly not surprised by his bust. His world record was beautiful to watch, such a smooth yet unique running style, highly disappointed it was doped.

Brojos/Gualt, here's an article idea; with all these biological passport busts it would be good if you guys put together an in depth explanation of how the biological passport busts work. Do they just look for crazy increases in hemoglobin? How big a change in blood is considered enough for a provisional suspension? It would be interesting to look at what statistical analysis WADA is using to flag people, and ultimately hand out a suspension. Also, what happens if kiptum doesn't test positive for something? How long will he be suspended? Maybe an interesting article to write given how biological passport seems to be WADA's preferred method for catching cheats this year.

It turns out that Coach Renato Canova and Mr. Robert Johnson ( = rojo) told me that erythropoietin (EPO) was a common 'treatment' in Kenya for the 'anemia' associated with MALARIA.

For Example:

It is just a coincidence that this is a Miracle Man with Malaria from Kenya:

Just a few years ago, Dennis Kimetto was a farmer, tending corn and cattle in Kenya. Now, he's shattering marathon records.

Six weeks removed from a bout of MALARIA, Kimetto broke the course mark Sunday in capturing the Chicago Marathon. Compatriot Rita Jeptoo was the women's winner in the first major marathon in the United States since the Boston bombings.

Kimetto finished in 2 hours, 3 minutes, 45 seconds, leading a 1-2-3 finish for Kenyan men. He beat the mark of 2:04:38 set by Ethiopia's Tsegaye Kebede last year. He pulled away from Emannuel Mutai over the last few miles and was alone with both arms raised as he crossed the line.

He said through an interpreter that he had been running on his own when he had a chance meeting with Geoffrey Mutai, a star marathoner and fellow Kenyan. Mutai asked Kimetto to join his camp near Eldoret and train with him.

Kimetto finished second in his marathon debut in Berlin last year, won Tokyo and added to his status as one of the world's best on Sunday.

Before the race, there was a 30-second moment of silence to honor the victims of the Boston Marathon bombings.

Mutai (2:03:52), the 2011 London winner, also beat Kebede's time but finished seven seconds off the lead. Sammy Kitwara (2:05:16) was third.

Jeptoo followed her victory at Boston by easily taking her race, finishing in 2:19:57 after losing in a sprint a year ago. There was no one near Jeptoo as she turned into Grant Park, wearing a wide grin and waving to the crowd.

Jemima Sumgong Jelegat of Kenya (2:20:48) was second...followed by Maria Konovalova of Russia (2:22:46).

The winners each earned $100,000. Kimetto gets an additional $75,000 for the course record, while Jeptoo gets another $40,000 for finishing under 2:20:00.

Jeptoo had an easier finish. Last year, she traded leads with Atsede Baysa of Ethiopia down the stretch and lost a step. Six months later, Jeptoo won her second Boston Marathon, a victory overshadowed by tragedy.

This time, she had a big smile and waved to the crowd on her way to the finish.

"In 2006, I won in Boston and after that, I (did not) do well," Jeptoo said. "Last year and this year, I'm really doing well. When I ran Boston again, I saw my dream is coming. This is my happiness."

This is a worksheet for further testing, but it takes an "atypical" result to even get on this list, and the limits are large, because there is a desire to limit false positives. Then 3 experts have to agree with an opinion that is unanimous... 2 times...for there to finally be an anti-doping rule violation.

There are no actual hemoglobin, reticulocyte, and OFF scores on the chart (e.g. Ms. Paula Radcliffe having a very large magnitude 21.88% increase in her hemoglobin values from 12.8 g/dL to 15.6 g/dL in a very short duration time period of only 2 days, between Oct. 2 and Oct. 4, 2003. The only plausible explanation is an autologous blood transfusion by Ms. Paula Radcliffe.)

In this leaked list, the columns are blank for the people (e.g., Dzmitry Marshin, Lisa Nemec) who have been banned for an anti-doping rule violation, because there are no more steps in terms of further testing to be done.

It turns out that there are some very fast runners on the list:

Sifan Hassan- 3:56 1500m, Meseret Defar -14:12 5k, Silas Kiplagat-3:27 1500m, Asbel Kiprop 3:26 1500m, Mary Keitany 2:17:01 marathon, Matthew Kisorio (58:46 half marathon, banned for nandrolone in 2012, was managed by Federico Rosa, coached by Claudio Berardelli), Geoffrey Mutai- 2:03 marathoner and 2:05 at NYC... and there is also a comment about Geoffrey Mutai having a high reticulocyte % 2x on his recent blood tests, with a question about whether he has been tested for an ESA ( = erythropoiesis-stimulating agent (ESA) such as EPO, Hypoxia-Inducible Factor 1-alpha stabilizers such as FG-4592, and/or inhalation of the noble gases Xenon or Krypton™, which can increase levels of endogenous EPO.)

Mo Farah's latest sample on the chart now puts him in the 'normal' category...but the headline here at LetsRun.com and this thread says that Sir Mo is..."LIKELY DOPING."

Who is not on the list?

Shannon Rowbury is not on the list.

Jenny Simpson is not on the list.

It turns out that the total number of female runners from the USA and NotThatGreatBritain on the list is... 0.000 ( = ZERO).

Oh well.

It's not a big surprise.

Centro is not on the list.

Dathan Ritzenhein is not on the list.

Jo Pavey is not on the list.

Laura Muir is not on the list.

It's just a coincidence.

In conclusion:

1) Ha. Ha. Ha.

Weird timing wrote:

Ulterior motives ... wrote:

When Radcliffe starting breaking records the British did the same thing, got runners from other countries banned for doping with ZERO valid evidence in order to obscure her misdeeds. Later it came out that none of those women had been doping. Now they're doing the same thing to try and divert the attention from Mo Farah. I'm absolutely convinced that Farah is the reason Kiptum was banned.

I had the same exact thought.

El white boy wrote:

GoldenMiles wrote:

I’m white. What race card am I pulling?

Person A: "most Kenyans are dirty".

You: "you're racist!!!".

Very silly. It's possible to point out that the majority of the current busts are big name Kenyans without being a racist.

I love the Kimetto example. If some random Kenyan cattler all of a sudden runs a WR with no training and EPO, then more Kenyans that actually have a running background should take EPO so they can run sub-2 hour marathons. EPO is a damn placebo and until you've taken it, you can't personally comment.

Dr.SkyRunner.Shiva.Ra.11333ft.altitude.com wrote:

Mo Farah's latest sample on the chart now puts him in the 'normal' category...but the headline here at LetsRun.com and this thread says that Sir Mo is..."LIKELY DOPING."

Well yes. After a spike from blood doping, both Hct and ret-% will return to somewhat acceptable values after a while.

He was "likely doping" earlier, like Rupp and Jager. Actually neither Kiprop nor Keitany doped so much that the ABP flagged them as "likely doping".

dusty_xc wrote:

Brojos/Gualt, here's an article idea; with all these biological passport busts it would be good if you guys put together an in depth explanation of how the biological passport busts work. Do they just look for crazy increases in hemoglobin? How big a change in blood is considered enough for a provisional suspension? It would be interesting to look at what statistical analysis WADA is using to flag people, and ultimately hand out a suspension. Also, what happens if kiptum doesn't test positive for something? How long will he be suspended? Maybe an interesting article to write given how biological passport seems to be WADA's preferred method for catching cheats this year.

Crazy increases in hemoglobin, yes, plus crazy changes in ret-% or off-score, and they now have a steroidal module as well.

Kiptum can get banned without testing positive, yes. There are already quite a number of examples for this.

Thank you! Yes, I’m not trying to attack anyone or pull any “race cards,” but just give my opinion.

I agree with the poster who said it’d be a great idea for LR to do an article on the biological passport busts, what they mean, etc.

This seems like the perfect time to share my belief that Kara Goucher would have run 29:30 in the 10k if she doped.

Jonathan Gault wrote:

We've got a story up on the Kiptum suspension. I talked to Kiptum's agent, Juan Pineda, who said...I have 100 athletes in my group. How you can control this? Can you explain to me?...Why in athletics, everybody is crazy with us (the managers)? In football or American football or tennis or basket[ball], when somebody has a problem, the problem is for the person. But here, everybody is accusing now the managers. Why?"

Well, Pineda has a point. I would think it is the doctors and the athletes that should have the worries not agents and managers who chiefly handle the paperwork and bureaucracy, so athletes can train and perform.

I also do not understand why these charges are supposed to ruin the sport. Presuming that the science of bio passports is solid, these bans signify real progress. If the science is not solid, then the scandal lies in the charges, and the officious beadles and bureaucrats who make them.

In general, the evidence is that doping is significant but not decisive, and that legal training and conditioning methods such as altitude tents can compensate, as shown by the performances of Rupp, Centrowitz, Kipchoge and the like.

I detect a note of hysteria around here and obsessions with irrelevant racial issues. The worst outrage is Semenya and the transgender invasion of women's athletics. But at least we can always console ourselves with the comic relief of so-called "walking" races.

casual obsever wrote:

trollism wrote:

Judging by the IAAF list of 'likely dopers' it seems you have to have hit some pretty sketchy numbers before they consider you for a ban. Even 'up to his eyeballs' Kiprop didn't do enough for a ban and we all know what happened there.

It's even worse than that. It's a 4-step-system:

1) not suspicious

2) suspicious

3) likely doping

4) ban

Kiprop's ABP was only judged as "suspicious", yet he later tested positive for EPO. Meaning, all the "likely doping" athletes had sketchier numbers...

From Ashenden et al. we know that you need to raise your Hct suddenly by more than 10% to get flagged as "suspicious".

It could also be from the steroid module for likely use of androgens. Unfortunately, the AIU provisional suspension list doesn't specify on a ABP violation whether it's hematological or steroidal anomalies. But since an actual charge has been issued, the longitudinal profile of markers present would usually have to be at specificity of 99.9% (1:1000 chance or less that this is due to normal physiological variation).

usually have to be at specificity of 99.9% (1:1000 chance or less that this is due to normal physiological variation).

This is a ridiculous concept, given that elite athletes are already in the 0.01% percentile.

Why compare them to Joe Slow Fattie down the street?