Mills race was suspenseful, this was a YAWNFEST. Only one East African in a distance final- damn those women have it EASY!
Mills race was suspenseful, this was a YAWNFEST. Only one East African in a distance final- damn those women have it EASY!
Did anyone else notice that the orange cones are a meter apart???!!!!
calculo wrote:
to convert women's times with higher barriers is not easy at all but all things considered, my experience in estimating indicates for small changes, it's likely the slowing woud be ~ cubic root of increased barrier
if women had barriers same proportion to men at 36"/5'10, a 8'00.00 clocking woud slow to maybe
~ 8'00.00 * ( 36"/5'10 divided by 30"/5'4 )^(1/3) =
~ 8'15.0
if women's barriers were proportionate height to that of men, the times woud be at least 15s slower for top gals...
more relevant is not what the slowing woud be with more proprtionate barriers but WHAT those barriers shoud be
based on above, the women's current 30' shoud be
~ 30' * ( 36"/5'10 divided by 30"/5'4 )^(1/3) =
30.94'
it's doesn't seem much but i believe women's barriers are 1 inch too short
it will accumulate as handicap over 28 barriers & calculation prior indicates it will average out to cost ~ 0.5s/barrier !!!
Dfergus wrote:
Did anyone else notice that the orange cones are a meter apart???!!!!
I noticed that too. Seemed like there were twice as many as in the prelims. Apparently they paid some attention to CQ's protest rationale, but not enough to reinstate her like they should have.
Montesquieu wrote:
End of the race from a DVR just posted on twitter:
https://twitter.com/marielenacalle/status/896108541995503616
Notice- the NBC announcer, who sucks- never mentioned that Americans were 1-2?
I watched it on BBC1- NBC should make their announcers watch videos of BBC just to learn how to call a race.
calculo wrote:
FULR wrote:First of all...it is the 3000m steeplechase. It is a very WEAK event. It appears that a steeplechase is often run slightly faster than a 2 mile. For these women to be running a bit slower than 9 tells you how weak it issmart guy
very correct
i didn't bother to look at the differences in height of barriers until now but it was shockingly low !!!
it is very favored to tall women such as western gals
but this also means the short Kenyan women will need to improve their technique & can't just expect to amble across low barriers
apparently it's 36" for men v 30" for women
however, average men v women height in west is 5'10 v 5'4
therefore huge discrepancy in ratios between 36"/5'10 & 30"/5'4 if someone can be bothered to do relative ratios
to convert women's times with higher barriers is not easy at all but all things considered, my experience in estimating indicates for small changes, it's likely the slowing woud be ~ cubic root of increased barrier
if women had barriers same proportion to men at 36"/5'10, a 8'00.00 clocking woud slow to maybe
~ 8'00.00 * ( 36"/5'10 divided by 30"/5'4 )^(1/3) =
~ 8'15.0
if women's barriers were proportionate height to that of men, the times woud be at least 15s slower for top gals...
DELETE.
Hi all,
A Brit here.
Dear USA, your athletes are doing fantastically, that commentator was awful.
Honestly sack that guy!
Listen again- diabolical.
Grateful for the BBC.
take away the deGrasse points wrote:
wejo wrote:What did we just see?!!
Only a jingoistic fanboy picks them one-two. Screws up any chance I have of beating the lucky guessers that make up a good portion of the leaderboard.
Don't get me wrong I'm incredibly happy Coburn and Frerichs went 1-2 for the US but that is a major off the charts upset.
Right about Courtney, but I had a great feeling last night Emma would win today. and yes it's an upset but I was really confident she would do it...
Last time USA went 1-2 in a OG or WC in a race over 400 meters was over a century ago.
rojo wrote:
FULR wrote:ABSURD comment. Beyond STUPID!
How is it absurd? Have we seen an upset on that scale since Billy Mills? I was dead from 1964 to 1973 so I don't know.
The best day would be Joan Benoit in the 1984 Olympics. Ran away with it.
HOW WAS THIS POSSIBLE? Un. Freaking. Real.
This was reputed to be the best steeplechase field ever assembled. Jepkemoi, Chepkoech, Jebet, and Chespol must have somehow all independently peaked way too early in the season. Only plausible explanation.
My predictions are completely blown but I don't care. That was exciting. Bizzaro World Championships indeed.
Chepkoech had a brain cramp and missed the first water jump, turning around to go back and do the jump cost her at least 9 seconds.
A couple of others fell at a barrier.
1984 wrote:
rojo wrote:How is it absurd? Have we seen an upset on that scale since Billy Mills? I was dead from 1964 to 1973 so I don't know.
The best day would be Joan Benoit in the 1984 Olympics. Ran away with it.
Shorter in 72 with Moore in 4th or the 5000m in Toyko would get my vote for the some what modern olympics.
Actually, the fall was Jepkoech AGAIN. She tripped and took down a few others, not even at a barrier. She then got back up and went back up to the lead pack before fading on the final lap.
stateroftheoblivious wrote:
Chepkoech had a brain cramp and missed the first water jump, turning around to go back and do the jump cost her at least 9 seconds.
A couple of others fell at a barrier.
wejo wrote:
What did we just see?!!
But I'm very surprised of your excitement in your subject title?😳....😉 I will read the rest of the thread now...
stateroftheoblivious wrote:
Chepkoech had a brain cramp and missed the first water jump, turning around to go back and do the jump cost her at least 9 seconds
worth considering
pup expecting to duel with traitor for gold running wrong track has to be accounted
I feel that somehow that race makes up for the frustration and disgust I felt when Gatlin (and to a lesser extent Farrah) won their respective races.
Payday! wrote:
You saw hard work and dedication pay off big time, that's what you saw;)
wejo wrote:What did we just see?!!
I saw it live and had Krause as my pick for a while...then last minute noticed coburn odds at 33/1 I had to get a piece of that. So slammed on a few pounds and watched Krause fall and the great Emma Coburn make my day!
I am a Brit and I screamed so hard for her the non athletics fans in the stadium thought I was crazy. But thank you Emma I love you :)
It was one of best moments of the champs for sure.
At the champs wrote:
I saw it live and had Krause as my pick for a while...then last minute noticed coburn odds at 33/1 I had to get a piece of that. So slammed on a few pounds and watched Krause fall and the great Emma Coburn make my day!
I am a Brit and I screamed so hard for her the non athletics fans in the stadium thought I was crazy. But thank you Emma I love you :)
It was one of best moments of the champs for sure.
You sound like a racist as do many of you in this thread.
Any fan of US distance running who wasn't totally enthralled by the last three laps of that race should just stop watching track, as it doesn't get any better than that. To watch the best runners in the history of the event set a blistering pace and then one by one falter as the underdog Americans held strong wad just thrilling.