Gotta love those Ducks!
Gotta love those Ducks!
Jenkins running a 3:49 road mile and beating a great field is not that surprising if you follow the sport. Jenkins is close to breaking 13 for 5k. Those kinds of runners have wheels. Running a super fast mile is a pre-requisite for a 13 flat guy.
Galen is not a miler yet he's gone 3:50 indoors.
Mo is not a miler but has run sub 3:30 for 1500.
Alberto has his distance guys ready to race super fast miles because you need to be a really, really fast miler to r,in a good 5k.
Jenkins ran a 3:35 at Tracktown a month ago. That's a 3:52 mile and I was there and it was a windy day. Today he was ready. No turns, no jostling, no running wide and no Hayward Field backstretch headwind.
Only a dope would believe he needs to dope to do what he did. The only unfair advantage he has is his God-given talent.
I second most of this post and have heard the same account of his HS training. Only thing I'd take issue with is the idea that he would have somehow benefited from a HS coach who "pushed him " more. Good HS coaching is about a lot more than just squeezing every last mile / second out of your teenage athletes. Sometimes it's best to just step back and let them grow at their own pace. I'd be willing to bet Eric's HS coach did exactly the right thing by letting him basically be a HS student first while providing just enough guidance to set him on a path to running in college.
https://youtu.be/jP_NzZP_LK0History corrector wrote:
Close. wrote:Jenkins pulls a John Landy (over Bannister).
Someone needs to revisit the history books...
New Balance 5th Avenue Mile
Pro, Road Mile & Media Results
Distance: 1 mile, 1.6 kilometers
Date/Time: September 3, 2016, 8:00 AM
Location: 80th Street to 60th Street, Fifth Avenue, NYC
Weather: 69 degrees, 78% humidity, wind 6 mph, fair
http://web2.nyrrc.org/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/24488.1.358174957016558986
Pro, Road Mile & Media Results
New Balance 5th Avenue Mile Professional Men
Pl. Bib First Last Age City State Country Affiliation Time
1 12 Eric Jenkins 24 Portland OR United States Nike 03:49.4
2 1 Matthew Centrowitz 26 Portland OR United States Nike 03:49.5
3 6 Colby Alexander 25 Clinton NJ United States HOKA/NJ-NY Track Club 03:50.3
4 2 Clayton Murphy 21 New Paris OH United States Nike 03:52.3
5 14 Charles Philibert-Thiboutot 25 Quebec QC Canada Asics 03:52.5
6 7 Chris O'Hare 25 Boston MA United Kingdom Adidas 03:53.0
7 19 Ford Palmer 25 Absecon NJ United States HOKA/NJ-NY Track Club 03:53.3
8 3 Ben Blankenship 27 Eugene OR United States Nike Oregon Track Club 03:53.9
9 5 Leo Manzano 31 Austin TX United States Hoka One One 03:54.4
10 8 Kyle Merber 25 Huntington Statio NY United States HOKA/NJ-NY Track Club 03:55.3
11 11 Nate Brannen 33 Avon Lake OH Canada Saucony 03:55.5
12 10 Donn Cabral 26 Annandale NJ United States Nike 03:55.7
13 18 Riley Masters 26 Seattle WA United States Brooks 03:55.8
14 20 Daniel Winn 25 Brighton MA United States Boston Athletic Association 03:56.6
15 15 Cory Leslie 26 Greenville SC United States Nike 03:58.2
16 16 Jake Wightman 22 Cranleigh - United Kingdom Nike 03:59.7
17 21 Mason Ferlic 23 Ann Arbor MI United States Nike 03:59.9
18 9 Johnny Gregorek 24 Annandale NJ United States NJ-NY Track Club 04:01.4
19 4 Robby Andrews 25 Englishtown NJ United States Adidas 04:02.5
Clayton Murphy was the leader at half-way.
New Balance 5th Avenue Mile Professional Women
Pl. Bib First Last Age City State Country Affiliation Time
1 31 Jenny Simpson 30 Boulder CO United States New Balance 04:18.3
2 33 Laura Muir 23 Glasgow United Kingdom Nike 04:18.4
3 43 Heather Kampf 29 Minneapolis MN United States Asics 04:19.7
4 34 Amanda Eccleston 26 Adrian MI United States Brooks 04:20.6
5 35 Kate Grace 27 Sacramento CA United States Oiselle 04:22.7
6 38 Shelby Houlihan 23 Portland OR United States Nike 04:23.0
7 39 Nicole Sifuentes 30 Plymouth MI Canada Saucony 04:23.2
8 42 Katie Mackey 28 Seattle WA United States Brooks 04:23.5
9 32 Emma Coburn 25 Boulder CO United States New Balance 04:23.8
10 36 Morgan Uceny 31 Watertown MA United States Adidas 04:24.6
11 51 Shannon Osika 23 Ann Arbor MI United States Saucony 04:25.1
12 49 Eilish McColgan 25 Carnoustie United Kingdom Nike 04:25.6
13 50 Ashley Higginson 27 Marlboro NJ United States NJ-NY Track Club 04:26.1
14 53 Alison Leonard 26 Birmingham United Kingdom Blackburn Harriers & AC 04:26.3
15 45 Sara Vaughn 30 Boulder CO United States Brooks 04:27.1
16 41 Emily Infeld 26 Portland OR United States Nike 04:27.8
17 44 Stephanie Garcia 28 Greenville SC United States New Balance 04:28.0
18 37 Nicole Schappert Tully 29 Englewood NJ United States New York Athletic Club 04:30.3
19 47 Cory McGee 24 Brighton MA United States New Balance 04:30.3
20 40 Lauren Johnson 29 Eugene OR United States Nike Oregon Track Club 04:30.5
21 48 Rachel Schneider 25 Washington DC United States Under Armour 04:31.1
22 52 Stephanie Brown 25 Big Bear City CA United States Nike 04:34.1
23 54 Stephanie Schappert 23 Clinton NJ United States HOKA/NJ-NY Track Club 04:35.5
video of the elite men:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UcorJqCYDs
thanks,
link to the womens race was on that same page.
Is there a story as to how or why Andrews ended up DFL? I don't remember him ever being anywhere near in it.
Hmm,
Emma Coburn beats Uceny, and Uceny has been pretty good lately.
falconrunner22 wrote:Hmm,
Emma Coburn beats Uceny, and Uceny has been pretty good lately.
That was hard to watch. Uceny was near the front until the 1/2 way mark. She surged into the lead at around 2:10, probably to get the 1/2 way prize. She was out there for a few strides, and then fell back into the pack. When the others kicked it up a notch, it looked like she couldn't respond. After that, she seemed to slowly drift deeper into the pack.
Lots of racing wrote:
Murphy and Centro for top 2. After that it will be interesting. I like Alexander. He is extremely consistent. Never seems to have a bad day and every now and then shocks the hell out of everyone. If he has one of those races like he had at Tracktown a month ago, he could place top 3.
Winning time will be 3:51 to 3:52. Maybe even 3:50....
Hmmm....a little scary.... Who is this guy?
Nostradamas
Oh yeah. wrote:
Lots of racing wrote:Murphy and Centro for top 2. After that it will be interesting. I like Alexander. He is extremely consistent. Never seems to have a bad day and every now and then shocks the hell out of everyone. If he has one of those races like he had at Tracktown a month ago, he could place top 3.
Winning time will be 3:51 to 3:52. Maybe even 3:50....
Hmmm....a little scary.... Who is this guy?
How we know it's measured accurately?
Maybe cus it's the highest profile road mile in history. It's probably been measured and re- measured a thousand times by people that assume Olympic caliber athletes are running too fast.
jamin wrote:
How we know it's measured accurately?
Dingler wrote:
God why are pros so stupid? We see something like this literally every other week. Don't ease up, don't look around, don't celebrate, just run as hard as you can all the the way through the line. Then do whatever the hell nonsense you want.
Exactly.
Why did Centro do something so stupid?
Here is my theory:
It is another stupid idea by Alberto Salazar (3,000,000,000,004 if you are counting…I am.)
This Centro Tactical Debacleâ„¢... is all because of Alberto Salazar.
(Centro had nothing to do with this stupid idea.)
OK?
Centro's Mom is Guyanese. African, West Indian.
There was also a 5-10mph tailwind today NE-ENE, so pretty close to being directly down 5th avenue
Haha stfu. I believe 0% of that. I agree with How does a 10k runner beat the milers (running 3:49 at that) at their own game without some sort of "assistance"? And he's with NOP so there's that.
You don't believe that a 3:52 miler, could run 3:49.4 on a downhill course, after missing the olympics and training his ass off, while he snuck past Centro who didn't see him. He's not a 10km guy, his 5km blows his 10km out of the water. he's a ~13 flat guy, who runs 4:10 x 3 in his 5km. If that guy can't run a 3:50 or better, then something is wrong. think about this. a 15 min guy runs 4:50 pace. he should be able to run 4:30 in the mile. Someone who runs 4:10's for 13 mins should be able to at least run under 3:54
Early 90's NH guy wrote:
I second most of this post and have heard the same account of his HS training. Only thing I'd take issue with is the idea that he would have somehow benefited from a HS coach who "pushed him " more. Good HS coaching is about a lot more than just squeezing every last mile / second out of your teenage athletes. Sometimes it's best to just step back and let them grow at their own pace. I'd be willing to bet Eric's HS coach did exactly the right thing by letting him basically be a HS student first while providing just enough guidance to set him on a path to running in college.
Well, I meant he would have benefited more in High school to be running more, not that his career would have necessarily been better. If he had a strict York IL coach, he'd have probably run sub 14 5km/ 3:57, but struggled more perhaps in college. I think everything happened just right for him though, and he's now a 3:52/13 flat guy, who has nasty closing speed.
Centro effed up. Murph spit the bit. And Jenks ran a smart race. Strength over speed.
Oh sorry, he's a white American. I forgot all white Americans are clean and would never think of doping. My apologies.