http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freak?s=tMonsters and Freaks wrote:
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Freak: a person on exhibition as an example of a strange deviation from nature; monster.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freak?s=tMonsters and Freaks wrote:
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Freak: a person on exhibition as an example of a strange deviation from nature; monster.
You rob them of their humanity when such hateful language is used. But you only convince the rest of the world that it is you who are wrong the more you talk like that. More fodder for more articles supporting Caster, so keep it coming.
Monsters and Freaks wrote:
Justice4caster wrote:Monsters, freaks you call them. They may not look pretty to you, but it is you who is the hateful monster. Sadly, you seem to represent the majority opinion of this website.
Yes they are Monsters, and you are a monster.
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Freak: a person on exhibition as an example of a strange deviation from nature; monster.
No, they are not pretty to me, they are monsters, putting themselves on example as strange deviations from nature, not women, but pretending to be women and invading the women's events, instead of running with the men.
It is them you are the hateful monsters, and you, all of you being hateful to all real women in the world and not having any compassion for them, only focusing on your own hateful brutality. If I represent the majority opinion of this website, then bravo. The sooner you are out of the women's events, the better.
We rob women of their humanity by using such hateful language toward them.
But we're only convincing the rest of the world that we're monsters and freaks and totally in the wrong.
The world is not stupid, and they can see what we're doing.
We are only convincing the rest of the world that it is we who are wrong the more that we talk against women.
This is more fodder for supporting to keep monsters out of women's running events, so keep it coming.
I truly hope that someday Caster will be allowed to run with the men.
Then justice will be served.
track chick wrote:
You can't really go on what people look like. There are tonnes of women all over the world who would pass as guys and they're women. I have friends who are butch lesbians and you would think they're guys, who cares, they're not.
eg kd lang
http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/images/catalog/detail/ZZZ005293-PP.jpg
That isn't K.D Lang. That is Loki.
Healing Hands and Parent: Here are the sources.
The birth defect and inherited disorder stats come from a government fact sheet:
https://www.westerncape.gov.za/Text/2003/birthdefects.pdf
a study linking DSD's to consanguinity:
http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/360763
another study that links intersex births (pseudohermaphroditism) to inbreeding, in this case, among an Arab population in the Gaza Strip.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6310248
Here's a quote from Ross Tucker and Joanna Harper's discussion on Hyperandrogenism, Chand, and Semenya:
"5-ARD is extremely rare in the general population, but there are isolated pockets around the world where it is not uncommon. 5-ARD is an autosomal recessive condition, and so both parents must carry the gene for it in order for a child to be affected. In those remote areas where 5-ARD and consanguinity (inbreeding) are both common, a significant percentage of the population will carry the gene for 5-ARD."
http://sportsscientists.com/2016/05/hyperandrogenism-women-vs-women-vs-men-sport-qa-joanna-harper/
Finally, an excellent New Yorker article on Semenya from 2009:
Justice4caster wrote:
Oh so now it is a sin for Caster to be herself is it? I think she has probably endured more hate and confusion than anyone here. If running a race in the sex she is identified with brings her a bit of joy, then we should respect that
Well Said ~` wrote:Why is it so hard for intersexed men to understand this, and why do they keep calling themselves women, when they are men, and not women at all.
Maybe it is because they think just thinking they want to be women makes them women. Therefore any gay man who wants to think a woman just goes ahead, calls himself a woman, pretends to be a woman, and wants to compete against women. After all, for physical competitions this is easier for men to do then to compete against men. But that does not make it right, no more right then it ever was right, because it never was right, it is wrong, and it has always been wrong.
If there's a sin, then men trying to run in women's competitions is a sin.
Looks like you agree that Caster is a man. About time!
Those three men make male distance runners look like women.
Kate Grace looked like a sixth grader in that pack.
Is it fun when you watch those men fornicate with your wife?
Not XY wrote:
Justice4caster wrote:Fine, maybe she has a genetic condition that helps her run fast. Doesn't mean she should be discriminated against and hated on. She is following the rules and competing where she is allowed. Makes sense to most reasonable people.
It doesn't make Semenya run fast though. His biology indicates that he is a mediocre 800m male runner. The question is, why doesn't he race the men, accept the competition and what he has to do in order to be competitive, and see if he can make a semi final in the appropriate race? Why not challenge himself and race fairly?
What is it that makes him female enough to run in a race designed for women because of the biological differences between the sexes? Being accidently raised as a girl? He's got over that now. He has enjoyed a lengthy education at university and as an athlete supported by the state. This is a farce, and as usual, it is women that suffer because people like you don't like women, want to oppress them and feel threatened by their achievements.
And you actually think its not 100% obvious. Pathetic.
The fact she doesnt seem to identify as female (male clothes, "lesbian") etc is interesting and a bit sad - they made an error at birth - would she have changed back by now if it weren't for being a prominent female athlete since high school? Idk
Obviously it is a bit of a reach to assign a cause of the intersex condition of an individual we have never met but after looking at healing hands post I saw this report on a study of Caster's province that reported 11% of males had some urogenital malformation that they attributed to DDT.
http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/PressRelease/pressReleaseId-61817.html
Regardless of the cause I do not agree with Caster being able to runa s a female without some testosterone blocking. It is even more frightening to know that this condition could be and probably has been induced in small rural villages.
"Because she came 6th #LynseySharp decides to take out her frustration on the one person who's already persecuted and discriminated against?"
"The IOC allowed Caster to run. She didn't cheat. This is just a case of two racists (@LynseySharp & @joannajozwik) being slow & bigots."
"Even if sore losers @LynseySharp @joannajozwik + their white tears formed a coalition, still couldn't beat Caster. "
Lynsey Sharp should have focused more on running.
Hating clearly slowed her down.
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Twitter and popular sentiment are on Caster's side and my side. We are winning in the court of public opinion. Love wins!
Because Caster is a vindictive man, he decided to take out his frustrations on the women in the women's events, by running in them as a man, and depriving them of their solely female competitions and awards.
Caster is a cheater because he knows he's a man and is running in women's events anyway. Anyone who supports that cheat is a Jerk, and is persecuting and discriminating against women.
Caster and people like him are sour losers because they are afraid to run against their own kind in men's competitions, and instead of this run in women's competitions, where they are not qualified to compete as they are not women.
Even with them being men, if there testosterone levels were as low as the women's, they would be way back in last place, and would be beat by the women.
The men should be running with men, and should not be in women's events.
They are hating all women, probably because they are self loathing and hating themselves for what they are doing to the women.
Let's keep branching out to twitter and other social media so the world can understand the injustices that are being done to women by these misogynist men who are pretending to be women and who are desecrating the women's events.
Here are 12 ways to spot misogynist men.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mysteries-love/201502/12-ways-spot-misogynist
Semenya’s best 2015 time before the IAAF rule was lifted: 2:04.19. Her best since: 1:55.28.
The same goes for the silver and bronze medalists Saturday, who have not been definitively identified as intersex but who share many of the same physical characteristics as Semenya. And time progressions. Niyonsaba went from 2:05.45 to 1:56.24, Wambui from 2:01.32 to 1:56.89.
Slaney was, what, 3x the limit, while 10x was the new limit that CAS struck down, right?
The only reason everyone is hating on Semenya, etc. is because they beat the others. If the intersex athletes (and I think the jury is still out on Nyonsaba) were competitive, but not necessarily a shoo-in to win, there'd be less ballyhooing. And that reasoning reeks of poor sportsMANship. Soon, I suspect, there will be enough of the "3rd sex" to make allowance for them to compete amongst themselves - but if we keep referring to intersex people as freaks and monsters, we're going to keep seeing babies mutilated at birth to decide a binary sex for them - and those babies will end up beating regular women.
Joanna Jozwik is my hero!
She told it like it was! Sadly Eastern Europe is now more free to speak your mind than Western European Countries.
I wept inside when I saw this....
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/14/52/22/3318968/3/920x920.jpg
cmon people...
https://cdn.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Symmonds_NickFV1-USAout15-e1435863105237.jpg
Dutee Brand wrote:
Not XY wrote:It doesn't make Semenya run fast though. His biology indicates that he is a mediocre 800m male runner. The question is, why doesn't he race the men, accept the competition and what he has to do in order to be competitive, and see if he can make a semi final in the appropriate race? Why not challenge himself and race fairly?
What is it that makes him female enough to run in a race designed for women because of the biological differences between the sexes? Being accidently raised as a girl? He's got over that now. He has enjoyed a lengthy education at university and as an athlete supported by the state. This is a farce, and as usual, it is women that suffer because people like you don't like women, want to oppress them and feel threatened by their achievements.
And you actually think its not 100% obvious. Pathetic.
The fact she doesnt seem to identify as female (male clothes, "lesbian") etc is interesting and a bit sad - they made an error at birth - would she have changed back by now if it weren't for being a prominent female athlete since high school? Idk
Look forward to boys from third world countries being mutilated at birth in the quest for Olympic medals.
And women being forced to run in the Paralympics due to their physical inferiority. Or being represented only in the lower levels of sport.
Its scary how quickly this distorted thinking has taken over and ruined the womens' 800m. What I saw yesterday was disgusting. The reactions of the genuine women at the end, who had devoted their lives to the chance of winning an Olympic medal. It was almost as if some group of misogynists who enjoy watching women suffer had conspired to arrange a scene on the world wide stage of women being put in their place by men. Truly disgusting scenes and it made me feel glad this particular Olympics was over and not to watch any more athletics on television. I hate to think what effect it has had on young females watching it and how accessible they think athletic success is to the average biological female.
It's wrong to have a "woman" with zero ovaries, undescended testes, who is a lesbian in this unique situation, and has the testosterone level of a man. Enough said. It's not fair because it's not a level playing field.
