Informative article by a solid writer who knows how to fact check.Thanks for the link!Justin Gatlin is dirty as ever
margukliubugtob wrote:
If you read the article, you'll find it quite factual!
gdm wrote:Written by "Dick Straight." Is this for real?
Gatlin will likely go down at some point. There are other dirty samples out there to be retested.
GartFingerling wrote:
Informative article by a solid writer who knows how to fact check.
Thanks for the link!
Justin Gatlin is dirty as ever
margukliubugtob wrote:If you read the article, you'll find it quite factual!
Its so easy to avoid positive tests. Gatlin knows this well. Like Robinson, I know that if I say more it will jeopardize my athletic career.
"Darrell Robinson, a former teammate of Griffith Joyner, claimed that he sold her 10 c.c. of HGH for $2,000 in 1988. He said Joyner told him: "if you want to make $1 million, you've got to invest some thousands."[15] Robinson also claimed to receive steroids from coach Bob Kersee, and said he saw Carl Lewis inject himself with drugs he believed to be testosterone.[17] Robinson never provided any evidence for his allegations and was shunned by the athletics community, leading to the premature end of his career.
Griffith Joyner retired from competitive track and field after her Olympic triumph in 1988.[18] She was repeatedly tested during competition, and she passed all of these drug tests. Griffith Joyner made public her decision to retire from Olympic competition one week after it was announced that random out-of-competition drug testing would be instituted during the 1989 season.[19][20]
After her death in 1998, Prince Alexandre de Merode, the Chairman of the International Olympic Committee's medical commission, claimed that Joyner was singled out for extra, rigorous drug testing during the 1988 Olympic Games because of rumors of steroid use. De Merode told The New York Times that Manfred Donike, who was at that time considered to be the foremost expert on drugs and sports, failed to discover any banned substances during that testing.[21] De Merode later said:
"We performed all possible and imaginable analyses on her. We never found anything. There should not be the slightest suspicion."[22]
When administered intramuscularly for complete elimination from the body from the last injection testosterone propionate takes between 11 days and 16.5 days, testosterone enanthate 22 days (3.14 weeks) and testosterone cypionate 44 days (6.29 weeks)."
Gatlin better be careful whenever he gets around to stopping his steroid cycles. Researchers are now well aware of the connection between steroid use and dexamethasone-induced (or chemical derivatives) withdrawal seizures. Joyner's family wouldn't get the coroner test her body following death - otherwise we'd have a very relevant case study on our hands.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Griffith_Joyner
On September 21, 1998, Griffith Joyner died in her sleep at home in the Canyon Crest neighborhood of Mission Viejo, California, at the age of 38. The unexpected death was investigated by the sheriff-coroner's office, which announced on October 22 that the cause of death was suffocation during a severe epileptic seizure.[18] She was also found to have had a cavernous hemangioma, a congenital vascular brain abnormality that made Joyner subject to seizures.[26] According to a family attorney, she had suffered a tonic–clonic seizure in 1990, and had also been treated for seizures in 1993 and 1994.
The coroner had requested that Griffith Joyner's body specifically be tested for steroids, but was informed that there was not enough urine in her bladder and that the test could not accurately be performed on other biological samples.
Possibly Rupp's parents would have forbid him from running track and field at a high level while in high school. Many parents do this with football. I remember when I was in football I had an older relative tell me football was not worth playing even if you could go pro and earn millions(he played for years semi pro ball and played for a short bit in the CFL). Years later I agree and would never allow a son to play this game even if he was built like Brock Lesnar.roid rage rowbury wrote:
Ex Jock Strap wrote:Would you want to attend his or her funeral when they hit 45? It happens to many throwers and it happened to Flo Jo. The biggest disservice Al Joyner ever did was to never tell the truth about his wife's doping.
Do you think that rupp and the other doping NOPers wouldn't be dopers if Al Joyner came clean?
crazy
GartFingerling wrote:
Its so easy to avoid positive tests. Gatlin knows this well. Like Robinson, I know that if I say more it will jeopardize my athletic career.
"Darrell Robinson, a former teammate of Griffith Joyner, claimed that he sold her 10 c.c. of HGH for $2,000 in 1988. He said Joyner told him: "if you want to make $1 million, you've got to invest some thousands."[15] Robinson also claimed to receive steroids from coach Bob Kersee, and said he saw Carl Lewis inject himself with drugs he believed to be testosterone.[17] Robinson never provided any evidence for his allegations and was shunned by the athletics community, leading to the premature end of his career.
Griffith Joyner retired from competitive track and field after her Olympic triumph in 1988.[18] She was repeatedly tested during competition, and she passed all of these drug tests. Griffith Joyner made public her decision to retire from Olympic competition one week after it was announced that random out-of-competition drug testing would be instituted during the 1989 season.[19][20]
After her death in 1998, Prince Alexandre de Merode, the Chairman of the International Olympic Committee's medical commission, claimed that Joyner was singled out for extra, rigorous drug testing during the 1988 Olympic Games because of rumors of steroid use. De Merode told The New York Times that Manfred Donike, who was at that time considered to be the foremost expert on drugs and sports, failed to discover any banned substances during that testing.[21] De Merode later said:
"We performed all possible and imaginable analyses on her. We never found anything. There should not be the slightest suspicion."[22]
When administered intramuscularly for complete elimination from the body from the last injection testosterone propionate takes between 11 days and 16.5 days, testosterone enanthate 22 days (3.14 weeks) and testosterone cypionate 44 days (6.29 weeks)."
This is old news, but very relevant
KnowYourScience.com wrote:
Gatlin better be careful whenever he gets around to stopping his steroid cycles. Researchers are now well aware of the connection between steroid use and dexamethasone-induced (or chemical derivatives) withdrawal seizures. Joyner's family wouldn't get the coroner test her body following death - otherwise we'd have a very relevant case study on our hands.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Griffith_JoynerOn September 21, 1998, Griffith Joyner died in her sleep at home in the Canyon Crest neighborhood of Mission Viejo, California, at the age of 38. The unexpected death was investigated by the sheriff-coroner's office, which announced on October 22 that the cause of death was suffocation during a severe epileptic seizure.[18] She was also found to have had a cavernous hemangioma, a congenital vascular brain abnormality that made Joyner subject to seizures.[26] According to a family attorney, she had suffered a tonic–clonic seizure in 1990, and had also been treated for seizures in 1993 and 1994.
The coroner had requested that Griffith Joyner's body specifically be tested for steroids, but was informed that there was not enough urine in her bladder and that the test could not accurately be performed on other biological samples.
Gatlins future looks a lot like Canseco2 dipshats polluting sport and, by and large, getting away with it.yet both will go down in history as drug abusers, no question.
Keepersgotit wrote:
This is old news, but very relevant
KnowYourScience.com wrote:Gatlin better be careful whenever he gets around to stopping his steroid cycles. Researchers are now well aware of the connection between steroid use and dexamethasone-induced (or chemical derivatives) withdrawal seizures. Joyner's family wouldn't get the coroner test her body following death - otherwise we'd have a very relevant case study on our hands.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Griffith_JoynerOn September 21, 1998, Griffith Joyner died in her sleep at home in the Canyon Crest neighborhood of Mission Viejo, California, at the age of 38. The unexpected death was investigated by the sheriff-coroner's office, which announced on October 22 that the cause of death was suffocation during a severe epileptic seizure.[18] She was also found to have had a cavernous hemangioma, a congenital vascular brain abnormality that made Joyner subject to seizures.[26] According to a family attorney, she had suffered a tonic–clonic seizure in 1990, and had also been treated for seizures in 1993 and 1994.
The coroner had requested that Griffith Joyner's body specifically be tested for steroids, but was informed that there was not enough urine in her bladder and that the test could not accurately be performed on other biological samples.
Many here hate Victor Conte for his history as a supplier, but his words are always worth reading and more revealing than many would like to admit.
What he says here back in 2008 about off-season testing is probably as relevant as ever.
traditional media reports on and social media gushes over Justin Gatlin continuing his winning ways during the 2016 US Olympic Trials, I would like to take this opportunity to cast a dark pall over the whole affair. He, a twice-banned drug cheat, displays no humility as he gets faster while aging. It’s not the athleticism that attracts the hordes, it’s the freak show nature of it all, he is akin to a circus clown rolling around in a barrel.Let’s all take a moment to remember that in 2001 he was banned from international competition for two years after testing positive for amphetamines. At the time he blamed his Attention Deficit Disorder and life-long reliance on medication to keep him in-check. Likely used for the purpose of handling withering madness amid the chaos created by social order.So really it is society’s fault. Why not? We are all to blame. Kumbaya.
JofSteelMan wrote:
Hahah, great article!
margukliubugtob wrote:If you read the article, you'll find it quite factual!
He is so dirty, dirty, dirty
Makersmark120 wrote:
traditional media reports on and social media gushes over Justin Gatlin continuing his winning ways during the 2016 US Olympic Trials, I would like to take this opportunity to cast a dark pall over the whole affair. He, a twice-banned drug cheat, displays no humility as he gets faster while aging. It’s not the athleticism that attracts the hordes, it’s the freak show nature of it all, he is akin to a circus clown rolling around in a barrel.
Let’s all take a moment to remember that in 2001 he was banned from international competition for two years after testing positive for amphetamines. At the time he blamed his Attention Deficit Disorder and life-long reliance on medication to keep him in-check. Likely used for the purpose of handling withering madness amid the chaos created by social order.
So really it is society’s fault. Why not? We are all to blame. Kumbaya.
JofSteelMan wrote:Hahah, great article!
I hope he keeps running a long time, and keeps being a great example to others!
Justin Gatlin makes me sick.http://athleticsillustrated.com/editorial/why-is-former-doper-dennis-mitchell-coaching-justin-gatlin-and-canadas-aaron-brown/Doper Dennis Mitchell is coaching him now... the story deepens.Thanks to Athletics Ilustrated for digging this new news up
Foldnmajju wrote:
He is so dirty, dirty, dirty
Makersmark120 wrote:traditional media reports on and social media gushes over Justin Gatlin continuing his winning ways during the 2016 US Olympic Trials, I would like to take this opportunity to cast a dark pall over the whole affair. He, a twice-banned drug cheat, displays no humility as he gets faster while aging. It’s not the athleticism that attracts the hordes, it’s the freak show nature of it all, he is akin to a circus clown rolling around in a barrel.
Let’s all take a moment to remember that in 2001 he was banned from international competition for two years after testing positive for amphetamines. At the time he blamed his Attention Deficit Disorder and life-long reliance on medication to keep him in-check. Likely used for the purpose of handling withering madness amid the chaos created by social order.
So really it is society’s fault. Why not? We are all to blame. Kumbaya.
After everything that has transpired, I am absolutely shocked to hear that Dennis Mitchell is now involved with Justin Gatlin.
Foldnmajju wrote:
Justin Gatlin makes me sick.
http://athleticsillustrated.com/editorial/why-is-former-doper-dennis-mitchell-coaching-justin-gatlin-and-canadas-aaron-brown/Doper Dennis Mitchell is coaching him now... the story deepens.
Thanks to Athletics Ilustrated for digging this new news up
Foldnmajju wrote:He is so dirty, dirty, dirty
ULTIMATE LOSER
KnowYourScience.com wrote:
After everything that has transpired, I am absolutely shocked to hear that Dennis Mitchell is now involved with Justin Gatlin.
Foldnmajju wrote:Justin Gatlin makes me sick.
http://athleticsillustrated.com/editorial/why-is-former-doper-dennis-mitchell-coaching-justin-gatlin-and-canadas-aaron-brown/Doper Dennis Mitchell is coaching him now... the story deepens.
Thanks to Athletics Ilustrated for digging this new news up
Wild times we are living in when a former drug cheat coaches a current drug cheat
[/quote][/quote][/quote]KnowYourScience.com wrote:
After everything that has transpired, I am absolutely shocked to hear that Dennis Mitchell is now involved with Justin Gatlin.
Foldnmajju wrote:Justin Gatlin makes me sick.
http://athleticsillustrated.com/editorial/why-is-former-doper-dennis-mitchell-coaching-justin-gatlin-and-canadas-aaron-brown/Doper Dennis Mitchell is coaching him now... the story deepens.
Thanks to Athletics Ilustrated for digging this new news up
Justin Gatlin is Awesome! wrote:
I hope he keeps running a long time, and keeps being a great example to others!
I hope my children can grow up to be as amazing as he is!
please check out this 2016 men's world leads list and tell us who you think is clean:file:///C:/Users/RRD%203/Downloads/rio-2016-iaaf-world-ranking-lists-mens-trac.pdfI'm being serious and not trying to pick a fight, because you have no evidence for or against ANYONE (i'm not saying anyone is innocent, just want you to realize you probably have some athletes you cheer for who you think are clean who are just as likely to be dopers). it's all speculationplease give it a shot. find a dude in each event you think is clean and tell us why.
adamsteight wrote:
How does it happen, 'Merica?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_GatlinAny dope could tell ya that the penalties gotta be stiffer if ya'll want clean sport. The system in place exalts those who cheat.
- In 2001, Gatlin incurred a two-year ban from Athletics for testing positive for a banned substance
- In 2006, Gatlin incurred a four-year ban from track and field for testing positive for a banned substance, with this sanction erasing his then-world-record time of 9.77s in the 100m. Gatlin began competing again in August 2010, soon after his eligibility was reinstated. In June 2012 at the US Olympic trials, Gatlin ran a time of 9.80s, which was the fastest-ever time for a man over the age of 30.
Yo, good to read Im still the talk of the town around here! So glad I can always count on my boys. Thanks for all the support, it's making me stronger every day :)
Anyway, watch me lay it down in Rio. Have to be there and witness it to believe it!
Im out. Peace,
Justin
Hi Justin, good to have you on the forum. I am a big fan of you. your the best