Epic fail: Abeba aregawi tested positive for doping

Would you tell us how you came to be in a position of such inside knowledge?

J.R. wrote:

This is yet another example that the entire purpose behind doping accusations is NOT about drug use, but rather controlling who gets the medals and who's banned from athletics, based on coercion, bribes, favoritism and politics.

Aregawi was NOT banned for failing any drug tests, but rather for refusing to pay bribes, i.e. unjust taxes, then all of a sudden some supposedly failed drug tests just happened surface.

The entire drug testing hypocrisy is a farce, backed by selfish runners who can't stand to run by their own personal merits but by attacking others who are better than them, and by corrupt politicians, only looking out for their own personal and political interests.

The sooner the entire drug testing BS is done away with the better.

Yep. And you don't believe antibiotics and HIV drugs work, so......

Because I'm not a stupid naive piece of crap like you. Why don't you do some running? I'm sure you are several ounces overweight, no thanks to your micro-dick.

For every giver like you, there is a taker on the other side.

You ARE needed, but not for the purposes you think.

J.R. wrote:

This is yet another example that the entire purpose behind doping accusations is NOT about drug use, but rather controlling who gets the medals and who's banned from athletics, based on coercion, bribes, favoritism and politics.

Aregawi was NOT banned for failing any drug tests, but rather for refusing to pay bribes, i.e. unjust taxes, then all of a sudden some supposedly failed drug tests just happened surface.

The entire drug testing hypocrisy is a farce, backed by selfish runners who can't stand to run by their own personal merits but by attacking others who are better than them, and by corrupt politicians, only looking out for their own personal and political interests.

The sooner the entire drug testing BS is done away with the better.

trollism wrote:

Yep.

"The entire drug testing hypocrisy is a farce, backed by selfish runners who can't stand to run by their own personal merits"

Yes--because at the top they are all using, it's a level playing field, and it ultimately comes down to which doped athlete is intrinsically better.

Not.

Some dope insanely, and get away with it, for various reasons. Just ask D-bag Di-ack. Money talks, your b.s. walks.

It's incredible how sheltered and stupid people can be.

not in 2012 wrote:

Yummy Drugs wrote:

LOL, Roid Rage Rowbury is a NOPer. Every NOPer is a doper.

She wasn't a NOPer in 2012.

And she is/was never a doper.

HMMMMMMM wrote:

not in 2012 wrote:

She wasn't a NOPer in 2012.

But she was known as Roid Rage Rowbury in 2012.

Maybe in your feeble mind

What on earth are you talking about?

None of these people are my "heroes" - I'm a grown man. Unless I find that one of my friends has been cheating and lying, none of this affects me emotionally one jot.

To say that I'm "totally blind...totally convinced" - dear oh dear. All I've said is that I don't know what's going on and neither do you - and in all probability no one does as it's a big complicated morally murky world. You're the one "convinced" that everyone's a cheat.

Again, good wind up if that's what it is, but if not: do calm down a little. Feel free to continue being ferociously angry at this scenario in your head where every single athlete is obviously cheating and anyone not seeing it is an appalling accessory to this grand conspiracy but stop setting up so many straw men and telling me what I think.

You seem unstable.

genze dibaba was 8th in that 2013 1500 final...now she is the wr holder.

morons will be morons wrote:

HMMMMMMM wrote:

But she was known as Roid Rage Rowbury in 2012.

Maybe in your feeble mind

Pretty sure she joined NOP in 2013 after her coach John Cook retired.

Rowbury had some interesting companions in 2012.

"The 2013 world championships were Aregawi’s first major global championships for Sweden. While still running for Ethiopia in 2012, she was sixth in the 1500 meters, one place ahead of American Shannon Rowbury, at the London Olympics.

That 1500 meters at the 2012 Games may be one the most drug-tainted Olympic distance finals ever. Asli Cakir Alptekin, of Turkey, was awarded the gold medal but has since been stripped of the title and suspended for doping. Fourth-place finisher Tatyana Tomashova of Russia served a drug suspension of more than two years between the 2008 and 2012 Olympics, and seventh and ninth-place finishers Natallia Kareiva of Belarus and Ekaterina Kostetskaya of Russia were also disqualified for drug offenses"

Just sayin' ;-)

epic fail wrote:

Test was taken in Addis Abeba in early 2016

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/article22355966.ab

PROOF that out-of-competition testing in Africa works.

Companions or competitors? I think there is a difference, you can choose your companions but you can't choose your competitors in an Olympic final.Boy, I really am stating the obvious this time...

angry willy wrote:

Rowbury had some interesting companions in 2012.

"The 2013 world championships were Aregawi’s first major global championships for Sweden. While still running for Ethiopia in 2012, she was sixth in the 1500 meters, one place ahead of American Shannon Rowbury, at the London Olympics.

That 1500 meters at the 2012 Games may be one the most drug-tainted Olympic distance finals ever. Asli Cakir Alptekin, of Turkey, was awarded the gold medal but has since been stripped of the title and suspended for doping. Fourth-place finisher Tatyana Tomashova of Russia served a drug suspension of more than two years between the 2008 and 2012 Olympics, and seventh and ninth-place finishers Natallia Kareiva of Belarus and Ekaterina Kostetskaya of Russia were also disqualified for drug offenses"

Just sayin' ;-)

After Hearing Abeba Aregawi testing positive, I felt entitled to give me opinion on the most annoying message board in the running community. well I know I am not going to get a good feedback on this but after following running for 10 years and participating in running for 10 years, I would like to express my feeling on doping and distance running. I want to write about doping on distance running only because I do not know much about sprinting. First of all my opinion on human limit, I think men are capable of running 12:55-13.00 flat for 5km. 26-50-27 for the 10km. 59:30-1 hour for 21km, and 2:06-2:08 for the 42km. Anything faster than those times, there is something added, it could be something natural resource that are not accessible to everyone or it could be enhance substance that are prohibited in distance running.

Here is the people that I Think are doping anyone who ran faster than 12:55 and it does not matter if he is white, black, Kenyan or Ethiopian, he is not clean, the same for the 10km, 21km, 42km.

So lets take a look on the best distance runners over the past 20 years.

Haile gebresslassie, 5km pr 12:39 and 10km pr 26:22 and half marathon 58:55 marathon 2:03:59. Was Haile Clean ? well at some point yes but he was not clean his whole career.

Daniel Komen: 3km 7:20 WK, 12:39 5km. Was he clean? at some point yes but he was not clean when he run those world records.

Bob Kennedy: 7:30 3km, 12:58km 5km. Was bob Kennedy clean? yes he was clean until the time he broke the 13minute 5km. then right after that I am not sure he was clean. He trained with Kenyans for while but I do not much about him.

Kenenisa Bekele, 3km 7:25 5km 12:37 and 10km 26:17. Was Kenenisa Clean? well yes at some point but not when he was broking the WR.

Zeresnay Tadesse, 10km 26:37, 21km 58:23WR. Was Tadesse Clean? Absolutely yes, I trained with him but At some point around 2007, Tadesse changed to different person. So I do not think he was or he is clean.

Eliud KipchogeL: very fast running on the track and road. with 12:46 5km and 2:04 Marathon pr. Is clean ? not right now.

Mo Farah: 5km 12:53 and 10km 26:44. Is Mo clean? well he was clean until 2010 but after that I do not think so.

Galen Rupp: 5km 12:58, 26:46 10km, Is Rupp Clean? Well he was clean when he was very young, when he get out of high school. After that I do not think so.

Meb. 5km 13:10 and 27:10 10km. Was or is Meb Clean? yes absolutely. I think Meb is clean. And here is why I think he is clean.

Meb is on the range where I think, is possible to run for men. and every time Meb finishes a race, he looks very tired and beat up. while every one else I mentioned above do not seem to be bothered by the fast time they run. Like when Haile run the world record for the 5km. The same goes to Bekele when he run the last 6 laps to broke the already impossible 5km world record and the same goes to Komen and Rupp. When rupp ran the 2 mile U.S record, he went to do a work out. Which is very suspicions.

Do not just think I am just blaming those people, I am myself is a good runner, and I know how it feels when you run 4 minute a mile. but those people make it seems it is like nothing. And we start believing, they are clean but it is not easy to almost 4 minute a mile for 3 mile straight. or to run 4:41 mile for 26 mile.

This is just my opinion so do Judge to much. pay attention on how those people look when the finish a race, you will see the difference.

Naturalrun wrote:

After Hearing Abeba Aregawi testing positive, I felt entitled to give me opinion on the most annoying message board in the running community.

Oh for f***s sakes, are you an American college student? YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING.

You cannot possibly say with any authority whatsoever that the natural limit is 12:55, because you have never run close to that, nor observed anyone run close to that. You haven't observed the best clean runners in the world enough to determine what they are capable of.

If Aregawi was still running for Ethiopia she would have NEVER been busted.

Ethiopia is the last stronghold of massive doping coverups. The Didopers, errr the Dibabas are the biggest drug cheats out there. Will be a glorious day when they are exposed for the frauds they are!

So top runners /medalists including Jenny must be doping, right? How about the fact that Jenny was just acting like she was putting all she had just to make others look like they didn't feel a thing since they were cheating? If we think that the top performers are on PEDS, we should consider all of them including our own if they finish on top.

Meldonium

"Meldonium was included in the updated list because of “evidence of its use by athletes with the intention of enhancing performance.”" (the guardian, oct 15)

A little to my surprise, that strikes me as silly.