LRC note. This thread was started in 2004. We'd love to get an update from the OP. Dmal, if you are still out there, post in the forum or email us robert@letsrun.com.
The Good Old Days of letsrun when you could write anything in the title you wanted and it not be deleted
DyeStat forums were much better from a UI perspective. In fact, Lestrun hasn't really changed much since 2000. It doesn't have the more modernized bullet board templates.
The Good Old Days of letsrun when you could write anything in the title you wanted and it not be deleted
DyeStat forums were much better from a UI perspective. In fact, Lestrun hasn't really changed much since 2000. It doesn't have the more modernized bullet board templates.
it makes me wonder how much of the letsrun community are new runners or if its just a bunch of old people who can't move on from something they spent way too much time on during their youth.
If you had known Orville you'd have a different opinion.
We were teammates on the LATC team under Igloi.
You'd never meet a more upbeat person.
Thank you! I guess "Mr. Sad" isn't going to explain himself. The only sad thing about Orville's post is that he's gone. He was by far one of the best posters here. He and I had bouts of e-mail exchanges and they were always so enjoyable. He had such a history in and love of the sport. In his day he was either what we'd now call elite (fifth at Boston once) or in sniffing distance of it. He trained with some of the best, Bill Crothers, Bruce Kidd, and under some of the best, Igloi and Fred Foote.
And he seemed to have made sure that running was always a plus in his life. He found a way to be successful in his running and his job. I nevre got the sense that there was a conflict. I don't know how wealthy he was but he seemed able to travel where he wanted to. Running seemed where he made his friends and he did not seem to lack for them. He once told me that he got his best results when he'd gotten away from both coaches and began training more easily. But he never criticized either coach and instead always expressed gratitude for the time and effort they put into working with him.
I miss exchanging e-mails with him. I miss his posts here. I don't understand what in that quoted post anyone could take as sad. I guess maybe I wanted to write a bit more about him as a belated obituary.
DyeStat forums were much better from a UI perspective. In fact, Lestrun hasn't really changed much since 2000. It doesn't have the more modernized bullet board templates.
it makes me wonder how much of the letsrun community are new runners or if its just a bunch of old people who can't move on from something they spent way too much time on during their youth.
I bet the majority except for runners who are actually talked about on here in a mention like Sage Canady, for example, are people who've been on the site for more than 15 years. There are probably few runners under 30 on here unless they were mentioned in a controversial thread.
For so many of us, running can quickly become a "jealous mistress". That said, I finally came to terms with running after 47 consecutive years which included high school and college teams, and later when the first running boom hit, close to 600 road races and 39 Marathons. I finally am at peace with my decision to let it go and at the same time, am grateful for the incredible journey running represented in my life. No regrets, just great memories. Although I get a little sentimental come Boston and New York marathon times, I'm grateful to have had those awesome experiences and am happy to joyfully watch from the sidelines. It's all good.
All addictions can have negative consequences if you put it above your health, your work and your relationships.
For me running just turned into 'working out'. Once I had a family I understood that I just wasn't going to be as competitive as I once was so at 30 I stopped. For the last 16 years I have focused on just 'working out' hard. I used to get down if I missed a day but now I do not. Mostly because I am 46 and a day off is probably good for me. Also since I don't compete in anything anymore, other than a twice yearly Army PT test, I am not as driven by physical competitions.
I hear this stuff from runners all the time. We are a self hating lot, maybe it's just the machoistic nature of the sport that attracts people of this mindset, or maybe the sport makes them this way, I don't know.
Any person involved in any hobby could say the same thing. "All this time I spent golfing/fishing/hunting/woodworking... I could have been doing SO much more!" The thing is you would have taken that time and used it for just another leisure activity, so why feel guilty about it. And this activity helps you balance out that ratio of Sweating vs Watching Other People Sweat.
I bet the majority except for runners who are actually talked about on here in a mention like Sage Canady, for example, are people who've been on the site for more than 15 years. There are probably few runners under 30 on here unless they were mentioned in a controversial thread.
I'm 24, and I've only been on LetsRun since I was 17 (so, about 7-ish years). I found out about it because guys on my cross country team would go on here. I'd agree that most people on here are probably older than me, but you may be surprised how many guys in their early or mid 20s are on here as well.
I should probably also mention that I'm a running nobody, so if you meant actual famous (or good) runners, then you could be right.
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Clarifying that I'm not famous
Your little golden twink lost so now the dweebs of letsrun are attacking people’s looks. Just because someone doesn’t look like a twink doesn’t mean that they’re not in their teens. These Africans don’t look different than the rest of the juniors representing their countries. So take your racism back to your mom’s basement and cry about it.
Your little golden twink lost so now the dweebs of letsrun are attacking people’s looks. Just because someone doesn’t look like a twink doesn’t mean that they’re not in their teens. These Africans don’t look different than the rest of the juniors representing their countries. So take your racism back to your mom’s basement and cry about it.
This is obviously an old topic. I can tell you I was a solid runner 4:04 mile type 29:05 10,000m type. I am 42 years old now. The running community is what destroys a person. As a runner I enjoyed the competition the sport however almost killed me. I had a cardiac event at 32 that almost ended my life. Runners are also very self-absorbed and think people legitimately care about the times they have run but I can promise you 99.99% of the population can careless. I am now a tournament poker player and like it way more then I ever liked running. A solid tournament run I have netted $20,000+ as a runner I was lucky to make $1,000 in a road race. I had no problem walking away from the sport. I was married young at 25 and realized my families well being was much more valuable than me wasting time at the track. Glad I did it the memories are great I don’t miss the people. Read the comments on this board that is the community and they destroy it!
I have been a "die-hard" runner since I was 18 years old. I am now 35. Because of my dependence on running I have lost friends, jobs, a wife, physical health, and mental health. Running used to be a friend. Now, I feel depressed and lonely. Anyone else?
yes. i began to eat 2 slices of bread and some oatmeal per day as a 15-yr-old sophomore to get as skinny as possible.
i wanted to have the skinniest calves possible because all the Nike NXN cross country runners, and mt. sac top finishers had them.
even went as far as going up my stairs at home butt first to not use calf muscles, and used elevator at school instead of stairs.
even did the stanford track camp and chris derrick did a Q&A with his pre-race rituals like with socks and stuff. mental disease with the sh*t people do with rituals and stuff.
f**k running. it probably hurt my growth spurt and i could have been 2 inches taller, where as an adult, all i care about is being as masculine and ripped with muscle.
I'm not going to blame running for my problems. I have used it as a crutch (and still do) but I'm not blaming the running itself.
I started running at the end of 2019, but I had no idea what I was doing. By 2021 I was jogging 70 MPW, but I wasn't doing any workouts so I never got the most out of it. I was doing 10 hours a week and was addicted to strava. I should really have been doing a course or something else with my time during the lockdown. I always run alone, so I didn't make any friends either.
A major mistake came at the end of 2021 when I started doing reps. I hammered them and did something to my left knee. I felt a downwards pull and have since had intermittent pain (it's been 4 years). An x-ray and 2 MRIs show no issues, but the pain persists. Physios tell me to strengthen my quads blah blah. I REALLY wish I didn't hammer those workouts.
In 2022 I ran too much with too many workouts, developed hamstring tendinopathy and ran through it. Also strained my adductor and developed shin splints. Eventually I had no choice but to stop and didn't run for 6 months and didn't race at all in 2023. I came back on lower mileage in 2024 and ran PBs.
To date I still have the knee issue and I'm riddled with tendonitis. I am working to try and get my body back to baseline. I have many days off. I still enjoy figuring out what works and what doesn't.
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