to adidas guy, I use the Glide 6 for Long runs and easy days. The adios boost 2 for tempos and speed days. The boston boost is interesting but seems very similar to the adios. Would it be worth adding it to my rotation or not. I 've enjoyed the boost shoes.
Guys,
Update on Sen 3 Boost for early (and late) '15:
http://joggingskor.nu/loparskor/adidas-adizero-takumi-sen-3-boost
Scroll-down the page for pics/details of Amazon Purple and Light Yellow.
Details of the first wave of Ren and Sen Boost:
Adidas adidas adizero takumi sen boost (B34810) Flash Green S15 / Zerometto / Core Black
Adidas adidas adizero takumi sen boost (B25894) Amazon Purple F14 / Zerometto / Solar Red
Adidas adidas adizero takumi sen boost (M21563) Running White / Zerometto / Core Black
Adidas adidas adizero takumi sen boost (B35998) Core Black / Core Black / Running White
Adidas adidas adizero takumi ren boost (B34809) Night Flash S15 / Running White / College Navy
Adidas adidas adizero takumi ren boost (M21562) College Royal / Running White / Flash Green S15
Adidas adidas adizero takumi ren boost W (B44504) Night flash S15 / Running White / Flash Red S15
Adidas adidas adizero takumi ren boost Wide (B40366) Core Black / Silver Met / Running White
agip wrote:
adidas product team wrote:agip
No, this is not the case. Now keep in mind that the name \'Boston\' has been in the adidas arsenal for several decades off an on. So below about Boston only relates to when we used the name on adizero.
Boston has always been the lightweight neutral adizero model; Tempo has always been the lightweight mildly stable adizero model. This has not changed since adding Boost in both. As for weight differences, Boston is currently 250 grams (8.8 ounces) in size US9; Tempo is 265 grams (9.3 ounces). The weight difference of course is due to more supportive elements on Tempo. We envision these models to be supplemental and/or racing, depending on the individual\'s needs. We then surround these 2 more versatile shoes (trainers for some, racers for others) with Adios, Ace, Takumi Ren & Sen.
Hope this helps.
well I recognize that I am being an obstinate shoehead, but ...
The main facts are these:
last iterations:
the adizero boston 3 weighed: 9.7 oz.
the tempo 6 weighed: 8.3 oz
so in the last iterations, the tempo was much lighter than the boston.
http://www.runnersworld.com/shoe/adidas-adizero-boston-3-menshttp://www.runnersworld.com/shoe/adidas-adizero-tempo-6-6-mensin the current iterations:
boston boost weighs: 8.8 oz
tempo boost weighs 9.3 oz
they\'ve flipped, with the boston becoming much lighter than before and the tempo becoming somewhat heavier than before
I do now understand that the stability features in the tempo bring the weight up -
no idea why I am picking a fight here - I\'m a huge fan of the new boost shoes - I train the boston boost and race in the adios boost - (and just set a PR in the adios) so I guess I feel I have a large personal stake in what Adidas is doing.
Agip has way to much time on his hands. The differences you are so concerned about make little difference for hands on performance. Adidas makes subtle changes to freshen it up and add improvement s where needed. The sky does not fall over a half oz. , road feel will always outweigh weight.
Bring back the Trojan sandal.
Freedom wrote:
Bring back the Trojan sandal.
Light makes fast (=adizero).
Adidas Product Team (George),
Albeit I've yet to try them-on or run in them given Feb availability but on aesthestic grounds alone I have two words for the Takumi Sen 3 Boost. Adsolute class.
http://www.runningwarehouse.com/adidas_adizero_Takumi-Sen_3/descpage-ADMATS3.html
A little premature I know but thankyou George.
Ok, so we now have the "Sen 3 Boost" and the "Ren 3 Boost" and other than the Ren being specified as a Men's shoe (on the Adidas FR site at least) and a different sole (and colors) what are the actual differences ? The Ren 2 was rated at 200 grams vs 175 grams for the Sen 2, but now they are both rated at 170 grams.
Sen 3 link :
http://www.adidas.com/us/adizero-takumi-sen-boost-3-shoes/B35998.html?cgid=SEARCH
Ren 3 link (Adidas FR site as I can't find it on Adidas US) :
http://www.adidas.fr/adizero-takumi-ren-boost-3-shoes/B34809.html?cgid=SEARCH
gathernomoss
The Sen is 175g (6.17 ounces)
Ren is 200g (7 ounces).
Both have Boost only in forefoot. As this runner is spending a lot of time in midfoot and forefoot due to faster running, the propulsion properties of Boost became the most important for us. As for differences, there are a couple things:
Ren midsole is 18mm/9mm
Sen midsole is 15mm/9mm
Ren has more rubber
Sen has more DSP (very grippy and extremely light material)
Ren in Japanese (extremely loosely translated) means 'prepare'
Sen in Japanese (again loosely translated) means 'battle'
While it may seem like we are splitting hairs and going a bit too niche, initially these two products were built for the Japanese runner based on their specific needs. We have found over the years that the rest of the globe also appreciates the craftsmanship, excellent fit, functionality and premium materials offered in Takumi...and adizero overall.
Hope this helps.
That's very helpul indeed, thanks!
So the specs for the Ren 3 on the Adidas FR site are wrong for the weight then, hope they fix that quickly. The fact that they're not on the US site means they won't be available there?
Being a big fan of the Adios Boost 2 and a forefoot striker I do want to give these Takumis a try as they have the Boost material where I need it. I'd tried the Sen 2 but had found them to be too firm and with an upper that wasn't as "hugging" as the AB2 in the front which seemed a bit odd for a racing flat. I also prefer a slightly bigger drop as it seems it lessens the strain on my Achilles. About the drop, is that what your "midsole" numbers mean or is that something else ? The reason I'm asking is I've seen 22/16 for the Sen 3 and you have 15/9, 6mm too but not the same thickness.
So it seems the Ren 3 is the one I need. The question is whether it would "ad" anything compared to the AB2 that weighs barely more at 228 Gr and that has to be one of the best shoes I've used so far.
So has anyone tried the Ren 3 or the Sen 3 ?
Will adidas make a flat lighter than the takumi sen 3 (5 ounces or lower) with about a 4mm drop?
Please update on Hagio 2 replacement.
It looks like the Hagio 2 has been re-branded the Adizero RC, No obvious changes other than color.
http://www.runningwarehouse.com/adidas_adizero_RC/descpage-ADMARC.html
RC is exactly the same how as Hagio. Only name change!
This is a really great thread, thanks for taking the time to respond to so many questions over the last few years. Since it reads like you have been at adidas for a while, I just want to show my favorite trail show of all time
http://img1.jpegbay.com/gallery/001692138/1_f.jpg
the adidas equipment trident.
I have not worn adidas since I ran through my last pair of supernova classic's about four years ago (I had some stocked up), however I do always have a soft spot for adidas and like to see what you guys come out with from time to time.
Will there be an all new shoe with boost in the near future at around the same weight?
We will not go down to 3.5 ounces (100 grams), but there may be something exciting next year!
Eqt. Trident. Yes, I've been around that long. Not sure I agree that it was even close to one of my favorites but the SN Classic was for sure.
Any plans to have a Boost shoe that would fall somewhere "in the middle" between the AB2 and the GB6 ? That's what the Boston 4 used to do between the Adios 2 and the Glide 5 but now the AB2 and the BB5 are really close and the TB7 doesn't change much.
Will the Primeknit Boston Boost possibly fall in that category ?
gathernomoss wrote:
So has anyone tried the Ren 3 or the Sen 3 ?
I've tried the Sen 3. Love it.
Very short version is that it's the Adios, but with slightly more boost in the forefoot and less heel. And a wider toebox. Basically, if you had asked me what I would change about the Adios Boost 2, that's what they did to create the Takumi Sen Boost.
It only comes in mens. I'm a woman, and sized down two full sizes to get a perfect fit.
The foot shape is a bit different from the other Adidas I run in - Adios Boost 1 and 2, and Boston Boost. The toebox is bigger as compared to the heel - for me this is a big plus, as I have a very narrow heel and a wide forefoot.
As a woman, I generally have trouble with men's shoes - even if I can get the right size, the tradition men's shoe foot shape is more of a rectangle, while I have a wedge-shaped foot, like many women.
The men's Takumi Sen fit my foot perfectly. I note this because, if you've got more of a rectangular foot, you may not like the fit of this shoe.
Wrong. Fortunately there is a women's model :D
Seen the newest in black around Europe, although there are some pink and purple models kicking around online... (Adidas! Enough of the pink already!)
http://www.adidas.co.uk/women-running-shoes-competition
http://www.runningwarehouse.eu/adidas_adizero_takumi_ren_boost/descpage-AADTK.html
hausfrau wrote:
Wrong. Fortunately there is a women's model :D
Seen the newest in black around Europe, although there are some pink and purple models kicking around online... (Adidas! Enough of the pink already!)
http://www.adidas.co.uk/women-running-shoes-competitionhttp://www.runningwarehouse.eu/adidas_adizero_takumi_ren_boost/descpage-AADTK.html
Wow. Fantastic@ In the US, including on Adidas' own website, I could only find men's. Fortunately, the men's worked for me. But very cool to see that there's a women's version for the future.
