Rudisha Says 48.5, 50.5 Split Possible......

SPMBF***K: You must be thinking from your butt, I am bored!

Does anyone know if Ventolin is actually sick? I was thinking he's unpleasant and narrow-minded, but given his postings in this thread I wonder if I should just accept his posts as being the result of illness.

A 47.75 - 48.0 / 52.0 is more reasonable in my opinion. In all of his record attempts or regular races for that matter he never closes faster than 52.0 (amazes me still). Being a more speed oriented guy I think a 47.5-48.0 off the front wouldn't be as difficult as a 50.5 last lap for him.

he will do it in Rieti since the track there is short+the extra oxygen available due to the nice forest around the stadium.

Toronto wrote:

Does anyone know if Ventolin is actually sick? I was thinking he's unpleasant and narrow-minded, but given his postings in this thread I wonder if I should just accept his posts as being the result of illness.

I agree, normally Ventolin's posts seem interesting and I mostly agree with them but on this thread he is just making idiot predictions.

Rudisha's 1:41.xx in New York drove home how far ahead of his time Coe was 30 years ago.

The others in that race were barely on the same straightaway as Rudisha, who ran almost exactly what Coe ran.

Coe, Moorcroft, Jones, Cram . . . their times from 30 years ago make it clear that it's not so much that Africa has emerged but that the West has crumbled.

SPMBLNPF wrote:

o.O wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if Rudisha ran 1.38.88 simply because of the way he feels at 500/600 meters in.

So you know how David Rudisha "feels" at 600 meters into his races? This assertion would be enough to make you the village idiot, but your statement that you wouldn't be "surprised" if a world record which has dropped .72 in the last 31 years and .10 in the last 15 years is suddenly lowered by 2.13 seconds really takes the cake. I am the world's expert on ceilings, and David Rudisha will NEVER run faster than 1:40.75, no matter how you think he "feels" at 600 meters.

I never said I knew how he felt you retard, you assumed that out of that sentence speaks for itself.

Blabbing about how much a record has fallen the past few years is pointless. How much did the 100m drop in comparison to what Bolt did in less than 2 years? It doesn't matter what happened the past 30 years, just like Jamacian having the fastest 100m/200m guy losing in the Olympics every 4 years and then suddenly having a man swept the sprint medals.

Yuichi wrote:

Rudisha's 1:41.xx in New York drove home how far ahead of his time Coe was 30 years ago.

The others in that race were barely on the same straightaway as Rudisha, who ran almost exactly what Coe ran.

Coe, Moorcroft, Jones, Cram . . . their times from 30 years ago make it clear that it's not so much that Africa has emerged but that the West has crumbled.

I guess it depends how you measure things; Coe ran the world's leading 800m only 2 years in his entire career. Rudisha's already held the season's best 3 times, and Kipketer held it like 6 times or something.

But Coe's 1:41:73 was awesome.

It does surprise me that the rest of the world's athletes, outside the Africans, really hasn't even caught up to those times of 30 years ago .. Same thing with the 400m. Hell, Lee Evans time in 68 is still WAY beyond what most world class athletes reach. And it's just his M. City run. Even Larry James and Tommy Smith ran times that today blow all but the top one or 2 guys away. Even in 1964 a number of guys were running sub 45.

There were some phenomenal athletes in the sprint and middle distance events from that era. The training for the top sprint and m-d athletes was actually quite sophisticated for that time and not that dissimilar from training regimens today.

SPMBLNPF wrote:

This sounds like something you might here on the playground where the kids weren't raised in a proper manner. So you're admitting that you're wrong, but you appear to believe that you're not as wrong as somebody else. However, since you're wrong, you're wrong, and if you're less wrong than somebody else, that may console you, but it leaves you, nonetheless, wrong.

Bullshit and drivel.

deanouk wrote:I have no doubt he could have run 1:41.0 that year

moron

there was no 1'41.0 in him in '81

he was at his absolute limit in that 1'41.7 - any idiot with a clue can see that

his 2 subsequent 800s showed nothing suggestive of anything great - just 2 shit slow 1'46/1'47

and he was also clearly in 1:42 low shape in 86, when running a 24.8 last 200 in a 1:44.5 in the rain, where he ran at least 8m further than 800m

drivel

even if he ran 8m extra, that gives him 1'43.5

there was not another near 1.5s to come off that

SPMBLNPF certainly an aspie

ventolin^3 wrote:

deanouk wrote:I have no doubt he could have run 1:41.0 that year

moron

there was no 1'41.0 in him in '81

he was at his absolute limit in that 1'41.7 - any idiot with a clue can see that

his 2 subsequent 800s showed nothing suggestive of anything great - just 2 shit slow 1'46/1'47

and he was also clearly in 1:42 low shape in 86, when running a 24.8 last 200 in a 1:44.5 in the rain, where he ran at least 8m further than 800m

drivel

even if he ran 8m extra, that gives him 1'43.5

there was not another near 1.5s to come off that

My God, Ventolin is the stupidest Aspie alive.

f*ck off moron

ventolin^3 wrote:

f*ck off moron

Time for another diaper change, Ventolin.

You gotta aim for the stars to hit the treetops (old Swedish proverb). I think it's good that Rudisha's setting high goals, if the (possibly) best athlet in the world right now doesn't, then who should? Assuming he'll win the Olympics and lower the WR to sub 1:41 afterwards this year, what else is there left for him to do in the 800?

Just look at Usain Bolt, all there's left for him to do is to repeat what he's already done; smashing world records, olympic gold, world champs gold, been there done that, isn't low motivation why he's been partying away all of 2010 and most of 2011.

Rudisha will run 1m39! like Bolt we are approaching the realm of video times. Not long till he breaks my record on Athens Olympics 2004 video game of 1m36 for the 800m! giddyup

ventolin^3 wrote:

deanouk wrote:I have no doubt he could have run 1:41.0 that year

moron

there was no 1'41.0 in him in '81

he was at his absolute limit in that 1'41.7 - any idiot with a clue can see that

his 2 subsequent 800s showed nothing suggestive of anything great - just 2 shit slow 1'46/1'47

and he was also clearly in 1:42 low shape in 86, when running a 24.8 last 200 in a 1:44.5 in the rain, where he ran at least 8m further than 800m

drivel

even if he ran 8m extra, that gives him 1'43.5

there was not another near 1.5s to come off that

It was at least 8m, probably nearer 10 looking at the Youtube vid.

It was equivalent to a 1:43.3/1:43.4 run for 800m on rails. The last 200m was 24.8 running about 2m wide on that last curve alone. That's the same as a 24.5/24.6 for just 200m at the end of a 1:43.3, which is an incredible increase in speed for a run at that pace. He clearly had a lot left and could have hung on to a much faster pace to 600m.

And it was in the pouring rain and a championship race, which meant 3 races in 3 days.

That is worth at least a 1:42.5 in a rabbited 1 off race on circuit in good conditions.

that's due to him running dead f*cking last at the bell in 52++, meaning he ran -ve splits for that race

he woudn't have been running 24.8 if he'd run at the front

& even with that finish he won by barely a stride v mckean - no world-beater against the clock

& he spends 500 - 700m drafting behind cram offering him ~ 0.5s advantage

with a 52++ bell time, off course he coud

no

low-mid 1'43 without extra distance

add 0.5s for drafting behind cram & that's high-1'43/1'44-flat

his 2 rounds were only 1'47, which shoudn't have hurt much, but overall, he mighta got close to 1'43.0 ( & that's being generous )

i suppose now mckean musta been in high-1'42/1'43-flat shape that day ???