Stars N Stripes wrote:
Now he just needs to do it off of twice that distance at 2 seconds per lap faster average pace to earn himself a gold medal. Impressive, but he must do better in London if he is to beat Farah and a potentially in shape Bekele.
So he needs to run around a 25:55 to medal in london?
Stars N Stripes wrote:
Now he just needs to do it off of twice that distance at 2 seconds per lap faster average pace to earn himself a gold medal.
that'd be like, what, a 25 minute 10k?
ok...
Stars N Stripes wrote:
Now he just needs to do it off of twice that distance at 2 seconds per lap faster average pace to earn himself a gold medal. Impressive, but he must do better in London if he is to beat Farah and a potentially in shape Bekele.
are you referring to beating rudisha in the 8? yes, two 50s laps would be required
Stars N Stripes wrote:
Now he just needs to do it off of twice that distance at 2 seconds per lap faster average pace to earn himself a gold medal. Impressive, but he must do better in London if he is to beat Farah and a potentially in shape Bekele.
You're not very good at math are you?
Nope. wrote:
bluper wrote:Lets see if he can do it to run sub13. THATS whats needed to medal.
wrong.
Stars N Stripes wrote:
Now he just needs to do it off of twice that distance at 2 seconds per lap faster average pace to earn himself a gold medal.
VERY wrong.
I agree with your very wrong comment but not sure about your first wrong. That depends on what Bekele shows up and if anyone else steps up. Bekele and lagat closed in 51.9 to run 12:59 years ago. Both have obviously lost a step, but I would not be surprised if 3 guys in the race can close just under 53 if it's a 12:59 finishing race. Running 52.6 to go 12:59 could be anywhere from gold to 4th or 5th depending on the weather and pacing of the race and when the kick starts.
But yea, he won't have to do it twice and probably not even once as its a gamble to suggest even the final will go that fast.
2004 olympic 5k final - hicham closed in 52.9 to win in 13:14. closing in 52.x in any race will put him in it
Bumb outkicked Rupp in a PRELIM. Can we stop reading supposed psychological 'got in his head' effects from prelims from now on? Bumb is prob. off the team anyway. But he would've been best served to ease into the finals. He had a heckuva kick himself- and who knows? An easier prelim could've nabbed a final top 3. No crazier than Rupp outkicking Lagat.
lill wrote:
2004 olympic 5k final - hicham closed in 52.9 to win in 13:14. closing in 52.x in any race will put him in it
Yeah, what might happen to Rupp is that he's with 5-6 other runners in similar shape and just doesn't have it, especially after running a 10k and the preliminaries in the 5k, but races of the sort where somebody runs under 13 minutes and runs a 52-minute last lap are exceedingly rare.
lill wrote:
2004 olympic 5k final - hicham closed in 52.9 to win in 13:14. closing in 52.x in any race will put him in it
No offense, but you have no idea what you're talking about. Hicham didn't try to run a fast last 400, he ran a fast last 200. He stayed behind the leaders no where near to being in a sprint and then was boxed in, and then went to lane two on the last curve and still ran a blazing last lap. You can't just compare last lap times without knowing when the kick starts. Hicham could have closed thzt race in 50 flat if he had taken off at the bell, and the other guys in the race would have been pretty close to him.
Friday Events
3:45pm Women's 1500 Meter Run Semi-Final
4:25pm Men's 1500 Meter Run Semi-Final
4:45pm Women's 3000 Meter Steeplechase Final
Where to watch wrote:
You can watch the NBC broadcast here:
http://worldtvsite.net/pelicula/40/nbc-sports.html
MG wrote:
the play-by-play from the announcer at Eugene
http://www.streamtext.net/player?event=trials
1500 is up!...Now many falls and protest will we have?...it's going get tasty!
I'm the prettiest and smartest one in the whole field. If I get top 3, I'm going to put my hands over my mouth and scream "Oh my God!" 20 times.
More to come from Rojo and Wejo but here is the women's 1500 race recap:
Women’s 1500 Semi-finals Top 5+2:
HEAT ONE:
2011 World #1 Morgan Uceny went straight to the front, taking the lead at the first turn. She kept the pace steady, unafraid to make the pace very honest, as she brought the pack through 400 at 66.5 and 800 at 2:16.7. By 800, 2011 World Champion Jenny Simpson was on her shoulder and Anna Pierce and NIcole Schappert were right there.
Uceny controlled the entire race, picking things back up as Simpson came on to her shoulder, crossing 1200 in 3:23.1 before unleashing a 45.5 final 300 to win with ease, in 4:08.90. Simpson was next at 4:09.12, followed by Maggie Infekd and Pierce.
Uceny did a great job of dictating the pace, keeping it honest while still staying in her comfort zone. She kept Simpson on her outside and seemed in complete control throughout, including over the final stretch.
66.5 (Uceny)
70.2 (Uceny)
66.5 (Uceny)
45.5 (Uceny - 4:08.90)
1 Morgan Uceny adidas 4:08.90 Q
2 Jenny Simpson New Balance 4:09.12 Q
3 Margaret Infeld N Y A C 4:09.38 Q
4 Anna Pierce Nike 4:09.51 Q
5 Nicole Schappert N Y A C 4:09.60 Q
6 Treniere Moser Nike 4:10.10 q
7 Brenda Martinez New Balance 4:10.73 q
8 Katie Flood Washington 4:11.38
9 Renee Tomlin Nike 4:11.39
10 Ashley Miller Nebraska 4:11.49
11 Greta Feldman Princeton 4:12.29
12 Karly Hamric RIADHA 4:12.52
HEAT TWO:
After the fast first semi-final heat, Katie Mackey and Alice Schmidt took notice and made the pace fairly fast, coming through in a quick 65.7 at 400. Lurking right behind was Melissa Salerno, Sara Vaughan, Jordan Hasay (once again with the biggest cheer of the day from the crowd during announcements) and Shannon Rowbury.
The second lap slowed to 72.5 and as they hit 600 to go, Salerno was right up on Mackey’s shoulder. As they hit the bell-lap, Rowbury came up on the outside but Mackey refused to relinquish the lead as they came through 1200 in 3:24.4.
At 200 to go, Rowbury accelerated very well to the lead and was closely followed by Gabrielle Anderson (who has enjoyed a breakout year in 2012). Like Uceny, Rowbury closed in 45.5 to run 4:09.95, setting up a compelling battle on Sunday.
Despite the early pace-setting to keep things honest, 800 Olympian Alice Schmidt missed out on the final, leaving only Uceny, Simpson, Pierce and Rowbury as 1500 finalists who have the Olympic A standard. After making the OT Finals in 2008 with a high school national record in the semis, crowd favorite Hasay came up a bit short this time.
65.7 (Mackey)
72.5 (Mackey)
66.3 (Mackey/Rowbury)
45.5 (Rowbury - 4:09.96)
1 Shannon Rowbury Nike 4:09.96 Q
2 Gabriele Anderson Brooks / Team USA Minnesota 4:10.08 Q
3 Katherine Mackey Brooks 4:10.54 Q
4 Sara Vaughn Nike 4:10.57 Q
5 Sarah Bowman New Balance 4:10.65 Q
6 Alice Schmidt Nike 4:10.94
7 Amy Mortimer Saucony 4:12.04
8 Kate Grace Oiselle / New Jersey New York 4:12.92
9 Phoebe Wright Nike 4:13.65
10 Heather Kampf Asics / Team USA Minnesota 4:14.03
11 Jordan Hasay Oregon 4:15.52
12 Melissa Salerno New Balance 4:16.33
Will Leer - epic stache!
beforeitgetsdeleted wrote:
Will Leer - epic stache!
leer looks ilke an absolute idiot. Try being known for your running instead of your ability to grow a 'stache.
He's just trying to copy that 70s looks. it's about as original as the NBA players sporting those nerd glasses.
German ran a stupid race, just sitting in front and not pushing. What a dumb tactic. Get away from Dave Smith.
Men’s 1500 Semi-finals Top 5+2:
HEAT ONE:
After initial jostling, the first heat was out very slow, hitting 300 slower both heats of the women’s 300. Will Leer found himself at the front, as they hit 400 in 65.7. Andrew Wheating lurked in last as the pace continued to dawdle heading into 600.
As they hit two to go, David Torrence and Liam Boylan-Pitt moved up onto his shoulder and the tension build as they hit 800 in a dangerously slow 2:14.1.
Torrence and Wheating took over the lead as the pace accelerated with 600 to go. With 400 to go, John Mickowski made a play for the lead but Torrence held him off as they hit 1200. He continued to hold off all challengers as they hit the final 200 meters. Wheating was in terrible position with 200 to go, boxed on both sides.
Torrence looked great coming off the Bowerman Turn and then Will Leer reemerged from the pack to take the win in 3:51.27 with a 38.6 final 300, as Torrence held on for third. Somehow, despite behind buried with 200 to go, Wheating found a way to get second in 3:51.40. The biggest casualty was Russell Brown, who finished last.
65.7 (Leer)
68.5 (Leer)
58.4 (Torrence)
38.6 (Leer - 3:51.27)
1 William Leer Nike 3:51.27 Q
2 Andrew Wheating Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:51.40 Q
3 David Torrence Nike 3:51.43 Q
4 Craig Miller New Balance 3:51.56 Q
5 John Mickowski Unattached 3:51.71 Q
6 Brian Gagnon New Jersey New York Track Club 3:51.86
7 Dorian Ulrey Nike 3:52.15
8 Liam Boylan-Pett New Jersey New York Track Club 3:52.18
9 Jack Bolas New Balance 3:52.47
10 Matthew Maldonado Long Beach State 3:52.95
11 John Jefferson Brooks 3:54.52
12 Russell Brown Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:58.85
HEAT TWO:
After the terribly slow pace in the first heat, heat two had a clear advantage as even a semi-honest pace would insure that the two qualifiers would come from this heat. German Fernandez moved to the front from the gun, as he did throughout the rounds at the 2012 NCAAs in Des Moines. It was clear almost immediately that this race would be honest.
Fernandez looked like the Fernandez of old through 400 in 59.0. He was followed closely by Garrett Heath and 2008 Olympian Leo Manzano; the latter seemed poised to take the lead as the pace slowed dramatically at 800, which was passed in 2:03.2.
Stephen Pifer and Manzano took to the lead with 600 to go as the pace quickened again. Fernandez was still in the hunt, in third.
Manzano and Matt Centrowitcz (who moved easily and comfortably into the lead group after waiting patiently the first two laps) crossed 1200 in 3:01.9 and for the first time Robby Andrews became a player as well. Centro stayed on Manzano’s shoulder down the homestretch as both were timed in 3:41.90, Centro getting the win. Andrews came on for third.
NCAA Champion Andrew Bayer as well as Jordan McNamara would finish sixth and seventh but gain the final two spots in the final, as this heat was much faster.
59.0 (Fernandez)
64.3 (Fernandez/Pifer)
58.7 (Manzano/Centro)
39.8 (Centrowitz - 3:41.90)
1 Matthew Centrowitz Nike 3:41.90 Q
2 Leonel Manzano Nike 3:41.90 Q
3 Robby Andrews adidas 3:42.14 Q
4 Jeff See Saucony 3:42.16 Q
5 Miles Batty Asics 3:42.33 Q
6 Andrew Bayer Indiana University 3:42.56 q
7 Jordan McNamara Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:42.77 q
8 Daniel Clark Unattached 3:42.85
9 Garrett Heath Saucony 3:42.95
10 AJ Acosta Oregon 3:43.73
11 German Fernandez Unattached 3:43.78
12 Stephen Pifer Nike / Oregon TC Elite 3:44.59
Coburn is stupid hot.
Coburn, Franek, Kipp
Hall and Higginson were fighting 4th 5th