2+ minutes or DNF.
2+ minutes or DNF.
runningart2004 wrote:
Every Wednesday I'm in charge of pt for my platoon and I have them do 8x400m on the road. 15-20 guys after we dispose of the walkers and profiles. Majority will run 1:30-40. So for a single 400m...maybe 1:20-30
Alan
Wouldn't one have to assume that the guys in a platoon of any sort are AT LEAST 8976% more fit than the average 20-30 yr old American male? Don't you people go out in public? The ONLY way it is under 2:00 is if the requisite number of meth heads happen to be all jacked up from freebasing just before the run.
BTW, the math winner of this thread is the guy who suggested we eliminate the top and bottom 10% and then look at the median. I love you math guy!
NO WAY. That is soooooooooo slow! Yesterday I ran the 400m in 1:27 and I was slow. The fastest boy was 1:02 and the fastest girl was 1:16. The slowest was 2:06 and that was way behind. That's 12-14 year olds. Mostly 13. Now if we're talking 20-30 the average would be around 1:30, 90 seconds
The average all American (men and women) is about 36 or 37 years old
men average 5'9" and 195 pounds and women come in at 5'4" 166.
A lot of responses early on were from people who don't know any non-runners or don't understand the word "average" or have very slow watches. The more rational people who say 2 minutes plus if we ignore the DNFs (which would otherwise invalidate the whole exercise) are correct.
Just saw about 20 cops in training (fairly young group) do a 1.5 mile test.
One guy did ~11 mins and was WAAY out front.
Last place was 20 mins.
At least three of them were walking during the first lap despite the instructors screaming at them...
I coach middle school track, I have a girl doing 71 seconds, another doing 74, and one doing 77, the average pace for girls is 81 on my team, I think that many people can easily do 70-80
Using the mathematical average of all the American who are not defined as medically immobile I think walking the 400 meters in around 4 1/2 to 5 minutes would be average.
The closer you get to defining the test group as normally mobile the closer you get to an answer that has seconds as the metric instead of minutes.
The conventional thought that 20 mins per mile is normal walking pace might really be a goal for a big portion of the population. The shorter the distance the higher the percentage of those able to complete the distance becomes.
My 40 year old neighbor seems to think 1000 yards to our local library is a bus ride away. I'd never walk that far that is like a hike he said.
Bill litz wrote:
I coach middle school track, I have a girl doing 71 seconds, another doing 74, and one doing 77, the average pace for girls is 81 on my team, I think that many people can easily do 70-80
A middle school girl who chooses to run track is NOT representative of an average 20-30 year old. She is going to be much skinnier better trained and more motivated. Even if she runs an 80. 20-30 year olds are generally less fit than pre pubescent girls (most of whom are less far removed from their childhood athletic endeavors).
finally Webb gets some love wrote:
Bill litz wrote:I coach middle school track, I have a girl doing 71 seconds, another doing 74, and one doing 77, the average pace for girls is 81 on my team, I think that many people can easily do 70-80
A middle school girl who chooses to run track is NOT representative of an average 20-30 year old. She is going to be much skinnier better trained and more motivated. Even if she runs an 80. 20-30 year olds are generally less fit than pre pubescent girls (most of whom are less far removed from their childhood athletic endeavors).
The average Americn are the people of Walmart and Costco. In that they are HFCS and Fat fed supersized Costco Sized, Walmart sized delusional humans.
2:30+ and that's Optimistic.
more than 3 minutes.
if you put the 1st leg of any DMR team that went to nats (d1), you would have a good battle between him and the average American. So between 2:55-3:00
When I was 12 (turning 13 later that year), I did my first 400m, with minimal training, on a grass track in 62 at a come and try meet. If I was capable of that I'm sure the average adult could go below 90.
I remember seeing a video of guys in a pre navy seal training regime and they were all very fit, a group of like 5 or 6 guys that were the fastest finished an 880 yard run on packed dirt (similar to the iten dirt track) with Army fatigues and boots in 3:04 at the fastest and 3:20 at the slowest, that pr9baby indicates somewhere in the mid to high 70's for some pretty fit guys. Average has to be 90+ even if you take normal people that don't smoke and aren't obese. People just aren't talented at running and even if they are, you need to train somewhat to be able to run even below 80 for a male.
Well I run the 400 in track with an average time of 1.08 so about 70 seconds, so I'd assume like the average American, again including people that may be in bad health or older, about 90-120 seconds presumably.
My son is 7 years old. He is pretty quick for his age. Leaves other kids in his dust on a short sprint. Runs kids down on the soccer field. Other parents have commented about his speed and say how much they love to watch him play. I took him to the track and had him run a 400m. His time was 1:36.18 and I believe he could do it faster with some competition pushing him. Is he as fast as I think or am I a father looking through rose colored glasses?
johnnyutah9 wrote:
My son is 7 years old. He is pretty quick for his age. Leaves other kids in his dust on a short sprint. Runs kids down on the soccer field. Other parents have commented about his speed and say how much they love to watch him play. I took him to the track and had him run a 400m. His time was 1:36.18 and I believe he could do it faster with some competition pushing him. Is he as fast as I think or am I a father looking through rose colored glasses?
My son is 8 years old. He likes his spaghettios with meatballs. Sometimes when he is on his skateboard and has all of his elbow pads and knee pads, helmets and what-not he looks a bit different.
There is a high school not too far from my house. Not that far away really. I think there might be a track on the HS grounds. But my bike only goes so fast. Like, if you had a PEDed up Lance Armstrong riding it I am not sure that it could break 70 MPH. But myself, I don't really like Doritos all that much.
abbs2391 wrote:
Well I run the 400 in track with an average time of 1.08 so about 70 seconds, so I'd assume like the average American, again including people that may be in bad health or older, about 90-120 seconds presumably.
Have you ever timed a 12 * 400 Metre track session for club runners? I have hundreds of times - the unwritten law seems to be that everyone goes for it on the last rep. If we judge people by their 5K time, the 16:xx and below guys are doing 60 to 70, the 17:00 to 18:xx guys are doing 70 to 80, the 19:00 to 20:00 guys are doing 80 to 90 and so on.
When an occasional runner or someone new to running who is in the OP's age range and male they don't manage 12 but they might do one rep under 90. But this is nowhere near and "average" person, these are hugely better than average in terms of weight and experience.
johnnyutah9 wrote:
My son is 7 years old. He is pretty quick for his age. Leaves other kids in his dust on a short sprint. Runs kids down on the soccer field. Other parents have commented about his speed and say how much they love to watch him play. I took him to the track and had him run a 400m. His time was 1:36.18 and I believe he could do it faster with some competition pushing him. Is he as fast as I think or am I a father looking through rose colored glasses?
If you want to see how fast a 7 year old is, why would you make him do 400m?
The cross country team at the local high school sponsors a race every year in October. It is a 1/4 mile race for his age group. Last year as a 1st grader he finished in 1st place for his age group. The race is next week so I figured I would take him out to the track to run a practice lap. Was just curious about the time.