People who collect and display sports memorabilia drive me crazy.
People who collect and display sports memorabilia drive me crazy.
This really is incredibly inconsequential, but...
Coming to a door, intersection, or whatever, and signaling for someone else to go ahead, only for them to respond by signaling for me to go ahead. It's like they're trying to beat me in a courtesy contest. The only thing worse is when I see two people CONTINUALLY trying to do this to one another, as if going ahead of somebody else is some sort of insult. Just go, dude, I don't want to spend my day watching your meaningless attempts at courtesy.
What pisses me off: People who let their dogs shit on the ground and refuse to pick up after them.
What REALLY pisses me off: People who pick up their dog's shit in a plastic bag, tie the bag off, and then throw the shit-filled bag on the ground. Don't these idiots realize that wrapping your dog's shit in plastic and throwing it on the ground is worse than just leaving it on the ground in the first place?
people who interact with others (like at a checkout line) while wearing their earphones to listen to an ipod. I know that you think you can hear people over the noise, but, it's just rude that you can't even unplug from your bubble to deal with people who are helping you.
not even gay wrote:
someone else wrote:Also hate when people call me a "homophobe" simply because I don't believe homosexuality is right, as is my right. Again, not totally inconsequential, but pretty much so for me since I'm comfortable with my sexuality.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but your right to your belief doesn't wash clean the opinion if it's racist, sexist, homophobic, or flat out wrong. It still is what it is. Likewise, an insightful, appropriate, correct opinion stands firm as what it is, even if others disagree. So yes, you are entitled to your opinion...but it could still be a homophobic opinion, despite your right to have it. Someone calling you a homophobe could be just calling it like they see it.
But go ahead and explain yourself a little. You don't think homosexuality is "right". I won't try to tease out the details from that comment (I'll let you explain if you wish), but my guess is what you're really saying is homosexuality is "icky". Because there are a lot of activities that human beings engage in that aren't natural. They aren't in the Bible, they don't lead to procreation. But people get hung up on this gay sex thing. So much that they actually oppress, or fight, or even kill gay people (not saying you do that of course). Is it because they're different? Is it just because gay sex is icky?
If you just think it's icky - hey I agree. If I want to make fun of a male friend, I'll say he sucks dicks. Because it seems icky to me, it's like licking eyeballs or sucking sweaty feet. I don't see how anyone could find it appealing. But ultimately I live and let live and realize not everyone is exactly the same and that's fine. In fact there is no such thing as "right", it's just a majority opinion, and it can vary from society to society, and from century to century within the same society (even decade to decade).
So what do I think? You probably think gay sex is icky. As do I. But you gotta get past it man. People are people, why do you care what happens in the privacy of their own home? You shouldn't use that as a reason to treat or think differently about anyone else, even if your own thoughts are your own rights.
Although it may be unimaginable to you, I believe homosexuality is not right like I believe alcoholism is not right. Can I be friends with someone who does it? Of course, I don't have to approve of everything my friends do.
The reason it's not homophobic is because I'm not afraid of it, as the term implies. Your statement that I think it's "icky" is a straw man, but you seem so desperate to pin it on me. I may disagree with you, but that doesn't make me dumb or naive, like you are implying by telling me I hold this childish view of something "unnatural". No, I actually just think it's wrong. You may disagree, but the fact that you think you hold a moral high ground doesn't make you right.
It's not a prejudice opinion either. I don't think it's right, but I'm not judging anyone for it either. I leave that up to the Lord, but for now I am as tolerant as I need to be. Now go set up your straw men somewhere else and stop hijacking people's threads.
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someone else wrote:
The reason it's not homophobic is because I'm not afraid of it, as the term implies.
"Phobic" means fear of OR AVERSION TO. The term "homophobic" does not imply that you are afraid of homosexuality, it implies that you are averse to it.
And these people are idiots, as they fail to understand the difference between actions that harm others and actions that have no impact at all on anyone who is does not choose to be involved in said action.
Oh wow, some no-name on the internet calling people idiots. You know, some people thought slaves were idiots too and as such should be treated as sub-human.
Your point is wrong anyway. I am an example of someone who feels homosexuality is wrong, but I would not do anything to harm anyone who is. I think shacking up is wrong as well. In fact there are a whole bunch of things I disagree with and if I harmed everyone who did these things then there would be a lot of casualties.
No, I have the capability to be friends with people whose values I disagree with. And most gay people, while I disagree with their opinions, hardly bother me at all. I could be friends with a gay person. What type of person it is that REALLY bothers me is exactly the kind I detailed in my post and you fall under that category. There are many gay people I would like more than you.
And let me ask you something. If everyone on earth disagreed with you on a given subject (not necessarily homosexuality), would you still call them idiots? Or does throwing names around just make you feel better?
Bear of Bad News wrote:
47 wrote:There are a LOT of people out there that feel, in fact, that homosexuality is wrong. Wrong as in the same category as murder, rape, and stealing a pack of gum.
And these people are idiots, as they fail to understand the difference between actions that harm others and actions that have no impact at all on anyone who is does not choose to be involved in said action.
Actually, I would like to note that we do not make that distinction. It's a function of our moral beliefs that these things are wrong, and we realize that it doesn't have an effect on us, which is why we wouldn't try to stop someone if we saw them doing it like we would with murder, rape, etc. That's the difference. As is my belief, the category of "wrong" is not subject to whether or not it is inconsequential. You can believe differently, but that doesn't make you right. So all those actions are wrong, but some are more urgently consequential than others in our point of view. Different people have different ideas of what is right and wrong, and thinking you are the only one that has the right view is extremely closed-minded.
Just thought I'd chime in, sex, gender, and sexual orientation all have significant biological components, both in humans and other animals, so saying homosexuality is wrong is like saying blue eyes or dark skin is wrong. It just makes the person look ignorant and hateful. This is coming from a heterosexual man who finds the thought of sexual activity with another male disgusting (as in, I have no homosexual desires to speak of). Homosexuals are born who they are just like anyone else and are just trying to live their lives like anyone else. I don't understand why people have problems with that.
You obviously didn't read the totality of my post. You're last sentence is EXACTLY the point I was trying to get across. Different people do have different views -- I was telling you mine. I also explicitly said there is no objective truth, so mine isn't necessarily "right".
And please don't turn this thread into an argument about homosexuality. The question of the thread was "inconsequential things that piss you off". I stated mine, and I did not say that homosexual individuals piss me off. They do not. Please read carefully.
47 wrote:
You obviously didn't read the totality of my post. You're last sentence is EXACTLY the point I was trying to get across. Different people do have different views -- I was telling you mine. I also explicitly said there is no objective truth, so mine isn't necessarily "right".
Were you responding to me? Because I wasn't arguing with you.
Oh sorry, I thought you were. Then we agree that different people have different views.
47 wrote:
And let me ask you something. If everyone on earth disagreed with you on a given subject (not necessarily homosexuality), would you still call them idiots? Or does throwing names around just make you feel better?
I didn't call anyone an idiot for disagreeing with me. I called you and others idiots for putting actions that harm no one "in the same category as murder."
I thought you might say that.
No, I do not think homosexuality is like murder. That's ridiculous. Out of two categories "right" and "wrong", my *belief* is that homosexuality is in the category titled "wrong", just like murder, etc. is.
someone else wrote:
Although it may be unimaginable to you, I believe homosexuality is not right like I believe alcoholism is not right. Can I be friends with someone who does it? Of course, I don't have to approve of everything my friends do.
The reason it's not homophobic is because I'm not afraid of it, as the term implies. Your statement that I think it's "icky" is a straw man, but you seem so desperate to pin it on me. I may disagree with you, but that doesn't make me dumb or naive, like you are implying by telling me I hold this childish view of something "unnatural". No, I actually just think it's wrong. You may disagree, but the fact that you think you hold a moral high ground doesn't make you right.
It's not a prejudice opinion either. I don't think it's right, but I'm not judging anyone for it either. I leave that up to the Lord, but for now I am as tolerant as I need to be. Now go set up your straw men somewhere else and stop hijacking people's threads.
It's entirely possible that it's something other than you having an aversion to homosexuality because it's icky, but I haven't heard an explanation in this thread. You've just said it's wrong with no more detail than that. What is wrong about it? You've conceded it's not like rape or murder where someone else is harmed. At least if you said, "The Bible tells me so" I could understand where you're coming from. I might disagree that an ancient book should have any relevance, but that is a different argument. You haven't said anything other than I know it's wrong, I think it's wrong. So someone like me, who is trying to understand where you're coming from, is left to my best guess. Which would be - it's icky, because I agree, it seems kind of icky.
If I've guessed wrong, please correct me. I am a reasonable person. I can at least acknowledge other points of view if they are rational. For example, I'm pro-choice but I can see where a pro-life person is coming from. If they truly believe a ball of cells is a person then OK, that's why you think early abortions are bad. It's a consistent position. I disagree about the ball of cells, but I see where they're coming from.
What I don't understand is inconsistent or irrational positions - like abortion is murder...but it's OK if the woman was raped. WTF? I thought abortion was murder, how does a previous rape justify a subsequent murder? Be consistent. Rape is horrible, but murder is even worse.
By the way, I'm not attributing any of this abortion tangent to you, just trying to show that I can reasonably disagree if you explain yourself. So go ahead if you wish, otherwise I (and people like me) are left to make our best guesses as to why you think how you do.
Any sanctimonious post, no make that ANY post authored by Flagpole Willy.
Quit hijacking the thread!!
START YOUR0OWN THREAD IF YOU WANT TO ARGUEm
This is a good thread, why don't you two ignorant asshole have your cat fight on another thread.