I'm honestly looking forward to Chicago this year since I've noticed that I usually run very well in the heat compared to most people. My long tempo runs rocked this summer even though I did them during the mid day heat. I'm afraid the rest of you are all screwed. Get the hell outta my way, here I come! Aaahahaha!
I wonder if they might move the start time back to 7. Anyone know the consequences (street closures, parking, whatever) that would stop them?
It's probably not the letsrun crowd that'll really suffer. Since it will keep getting hotter as the day goes on, and Chicago has all lot of slow runners, there might be a lot of dnfs.
I just saw the weather on channel 9.
No lake breeze. It will be humid, but that will bring clouds so that should block some sun.
He said it will be in the high 60's into the 70's for the race. Winds from the southwest so we'll have a bit of a tailwind the last couple miles.
Fear Less Wonder wrote:
Don\'t forget we are running by Lake Michigan..could help
Yay! Extra humidity and lake effect winds!!
A breeze off the lake would be at least 5 fewer degrees stupid.
MarathonMind wrote:
I'm sticking with my plan and going to run hard.Not to put a damper on your plans but have you actually had experience with the heat? Totally different than a cold, wet, and windy day in Boston. The big killer is internal body heat and there is nothing the laws of physics and human physiology can do to change how that will affect the efficiency of your muscles.
-Heat exhaustion.
-Heat stroke.
Let's be smart and safe. 26.2 is tough enough on the body as is.
"Sport is not about being wrapped up in cotton wool. Sport as about adapting to the unexpected and being able to modify plans at the last minute. Sport, like all life, is about taking risks."
- Sir Roger Bannister
Vincent Rousseau. Not many people know of him. Couple of 2:07s around 1995. He KNEW he couldn't run in the heat. Which Marathon was it where, at the start line, he decided that it was too warm, and just simply walked away.....and gave up many thousands of $$$ too?
I don't bring this up in order to say "feck it Y'all....walk away" to y'all. But DO REALIZE YOUR LIMITATIONS. Adjust accordingly.
Rousseau walked away. That's rather drastic. But what will y'all do about this? What is the gameplan now? What are the realistic and safe expectations?
Can someone please tell me how warm LA84 Marathon was? Men and women?
I ran Boston in 2004 and finished very high due to the heat dropouts. But I swore next time I entered a marathon and it got hot I'd be a spectator.
I'm glad I've already made the decision for training reasons to back out on Chicago, it's not Boston 2004 by any stretch but it won't be pleasant.
Ha HA! Your marathon is going to be too warm.
i'm still going to have a great time no matter what the temp. good luck everyone. i'll see you at the expo tonight...
good luck to those running Chicago. You can't change the weather so just enjoy the race and the people. Not every race is going to be a Pb, but who knows.
Forecast high of 88 but at least CHicago has the earlier start time. What a difference from 1993; I was there that year and it snowed! It was at the end of the month though; halloween.
I did the Boston 2004, that was rough. the heat added about an hour!
if you go ahead and race-realize you won't be qualifying for anything you haven't qualified for already. Boston-olympic trials-be realstic with your self, or you will be in for a long recovery.
Mandingo wrote:
I did the Boston 2004, that was rough. the heat added about an hour!
What??? Absurd. The heat in Boston 2004 added maybe 10-15 secs per mile. It was also 20% humidity and a strong tailwind. It was tough for sure, but come on, an hour?!?!
Just got back from a 30 minute run near the lake. Humidity very high. Absolutely drenched after 15 minutes. Best take it easy on this one, folks.
llass wrote:
A breeze off the lake would be at least 5 fewer degrees stupid.
This time of year the lake is warm. Secondly, the winds will be coming from the SW. The lake is to the East last I looked at the map.
can you go shirtless ??? i have sweating issues.
hypnotoad wrote:
Mandingo wrote:I did the Boston 2004, that was rough. the heat added about an hour!
What??? Absurd. The heat in Boston 2004 added maybe 10-15 secs per mile. It was also 20% humidity and a strong tailwind. It was tough for sure, but come on, an hour?!?!
The winning time at Boston in '04 was, what, 2:14?... for guys whose job is the marathon. That was a bare minimum 15 seconds slower per mile for the winner - everyone else fell off a cliff from there. I ended up 70th or so in the men's division with a time that normally wouldn't have gotten me within 10 minutes of the top 100. In fact, my time was a good 15 minutes slower than what you'd historically have needed to run to finish about where I did in the overall placings. And 10 to 15 minutes is about how much slower I felt my time was than the shape I thought I was in. And I had a good day. As for that tailwind, it never materialized until much later in the day - so it might have aided the 4 hour crowd, but not anyone under 3 hours. I recall at about mile 5 going by some Red Cross tent from which a volunteer yelled out, "90 degrees!" The wind was in my face at that point. I stopped looking at my watch and started taking water from whoever was offering, every 100 feet or so, just dumping it on my head.
Chicago wont be that hot, given the 8 am start, but even 70 degrees at the gun will take its toll. Unless you trained in some place like Phoenix, you will suffer if you go out at goal pace. And if your sole purpose in running Chicago is busting a certain time, like a sub 2:22, or a sub 2:30 - as opposed to just running a marathon, whether it takes you 4,5 or 6 hours - then it isn't going to happen. Either resign yourself to junking months of training, or go somewhere else.
The months aren't junked. They are still there, to be added to. Journey, not destination.
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