gee ur lazy bob :) google "cerutty training" and see for yourself
Bob Wildes wrote:
This was a great thread but didn't fulfill its promise.
Anyone with some insight about Percy Cerutty and/or his training methods please post.
gee ur lazy bob :) google "cerutty training" and see for yourself
Bob Wildes wrote:
This was a great thread but didn't fulfill its promise.
Anyone with some insight about Percy Cerutty and/or his training methods please post.
yo PSAC thread wrote:
Who would you rather train under?
One vote - Cerutty (sadly might be the only vote he gets).
Why do we need to have this discussion. Lydiard was a f***ing genius.
An interesting thread to read through.
Why not both? Take the best from both and reject the stuff that is way out there/outdated.
Lydiard Cerutty wrote:
Why not both? Take the best from both and reject the stuff that is way out there/outdated.
Being european I have no idea who those guys are, but I do know a guy called Lydiard Cerutty here in letsrun, so I was thinking when reading the first posts, I wonder what that guy thinks :-)
I love Percy, and I would have loved to have trained at Portsea.
However, he does seem to have upset a lot of athletes with his attitude
Ron Clarke had one meeting with him and wasn't impressed, and Ron, famously, once said that Herb Elliott became great in spite - not because - of Percy's training methods.
John Landy rejected Percy's training system.
Cerutty's training methods got Landy to the 1952 Olympics but John bombed out in the heats ( at that time John was, I think, running the mile in around 4min 10 sec).
However Landy's time at the Olympics was not wasted as he picked as many brains as possible ( including Zatopek's ) and when he got back to Australia started training based on what he had learned in Helsinki. The rest is history, so they say.
Halberg visited Portsea and had a training run with the young Herb Elliott and was very impressed with Herb's talent but he, too, rejected Percy's methods.
Apart from Herb, Percy trained Albie Thomas to the level where he broke the 2 and 3 mile world records, and he also broke 4mins in the famous Dublin mile in 1958, where Herb shattered the world record. However, Albie didn't - unlike Lydiard's pupil Halberg - win any major titles.
I think Percy was necessary for Elliott. His personality suited Herb.
Lydiard was less intuitive and more methodical than Cerutty, and had far more success than Percy.
However, given the chance, I'd have loved to have experienced Cerutty's training camp.
The reviving of this old thread is quite serendipitous, as I am currently half way through graeme sims' biography on the great man. A must read!
It is Percy for me hands down. He not only developed the athlete but the complete man.
Sure he pissed a lot of good folk off, but the old b@stard was lightyears before his time on nutrition, periodisation, form, psychology, heavy weight training.. a genius in every sense of the word.
Bump. Really enjoyed reading through this thread.