Family of alleged killer Karmelo Anthony to use $439,000 in donations to buy new home.

Membrane wrote:

Speedyrunnerguy wrote:

I don't think race is whatsoever relevant here, but you can only attack in self-defense if there is an actual threat to your life

In Texas, the use of lethal force is only legally permissible if the aggressor is actually using or about to use lethal force on the victim. The claim that Anthony has made that stabbing Austin Metcalf was somehow self defense does not hold water. According to Texas law, Metcalf simply grabbing Anthony to remove him from a seat does not legally constitute Anthony killing Metcalf with a weapon. If it was the case that Anthony only punched Metcalf, this would not have gone to trial, but the fact that he killed him when not threatened with death has resulted in the second degree murder charge. Anthony should get life in prison without the possibility of parole, but this case has become such an unnecessary political issue that the judge will likely sentence him to 15 to 20 years in prison with the possibility of time reduced and parole. I doubt Anthony walks away from the Jury with an innocent verdict.

someone who knows how the world works wrote:

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Karmelo Anthony will probably walk

The stabbing of Austin Metcalf by Karmelo Anthony is tragic. It could have ended in so many different ways.

Link:www.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/...

Yet Karmelo Anthony will most likely walk away with little, if any, prison time.

Karmelo was in a public place (erecting a canopy/popup/pole tent/shade tent does not make public property private), legally possessed a knife (Texas law allows you to have a knife with a blade under 5.5 inches on campus), and was protecting himself from potential serious bodily injury (the requirement to use deadly force in Texas’ Stand Your Ground law).

This may be the rare case where a young black man over reacted, but acted within the law. Were his actions morally correct? No were they lawful? Yes.

FWIW when states like Florida and Texas passed these stand your ground laws, Democrats (especially black people) rallied and protested against them for months. We TOLD you (collective you) that they were going to get someone killed. And they have. This time, it just so happens that the person who was killed was a young white man and the person who stood his ground was a young black man.

Karmelo wasn’t “trespassing”. He was on public property. Just because you erect a pole tent/pop up on public property doesn’t now somehow magically convert that property to private property.

Someone mentioned an example of public property open to the public (such as an employee break room at a public library). That doesn’t apply to this situation as the bleachers were open to the general public at the time of the event. Austin asking Karmelo to leave holds no legal relevance as Austin is not an authorized representative of the school district, is not a law enforcement officer, and Austin’s school was not given any exclusive rights to the area (such as a permit or written contract to use a certain area of the bleachers).

His presence may have been “antagonistic”, in the colloquial sense of the word, but it was lawful and he had no duty or legal obligation to leave. It was public property (not even a school) owned by the school district.

In Texas having a knife on campus, with a blade under 5.5 inches is legal. Period.

Being pushed, then grabbed (see police report) could lead someone to reasonably believe they were at risk of serious bodily injury. Texas law allows for you to then use deadly force.

This isn’t about feelings, morality, or your opinion. So far, all facts released to the public point to this being a lawful homicide.

But we told you these things would happen.

Aouita 84 wrote:

someone who knows how the world works wrote:

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Karmelo Anthony will probably walk

The stabbing of Austin Metcalf by Karmelo Anthony is tragic. It could have ended in so many different ways.

Link:www.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/...

Yet Karmelo Anthony will most likely walk away with little, if any, prison time.

Karmelo was in a public place (erecting a canopy/popup/pole tent/shade tent does not make public property private), legally possessed a knife (Texas law allows you to have a knife with a blade under 5.5 inches on campus), and was protecting himself from potential serious bodily injury (the requirement to use deadly force in Texas’ Stand Your Ground law).

This may be the rare case where a young black man over reacted, but acted within the law. Were his actions morally correct? No were they lawful? Yes.

FWIW when states like Florida and Texas passed these stand your ground laws, Democrats (especially black people) rallied and protested against them for months. We TOLD you (collective you) that they were going to get someone killed. And they have. This time, it just so happens that the person who was killed was a young white man and the person who stood his ground was a young black man.

Karmelo wasn’t “trespassing”. He was on public property. Just because you erect a pole tent/pop up on public property doesn’t now somehow magically convert that property to private property.

Someone mentioned an example of public property open to the public (such as an employee break room at a public library). That doesn’t apply to this situation as the bleachers were open to the general public at the time of the event. Austin asking Karmelo to leave holds no legal relevance as Austin is not an authorized representative of the school district, is not a law enforcement officer, and Austin’s school was not given any exclusive rights to the area (such as a permit or written contract to use a certain area of the bleachers).

His presence may have been “antagonistic”, in the colloquial sense of the word, but it was lawful and he had no duty or legal obligation to leave. It was public property (not even a school) owned by the school district.

In Texas having a knife on campus, with a blade under 5.5 inches is legal. Period.

Being pushed, then grabbed (see police report) could lead someone to reasonably believe they were at risk of serious bodily injury. Texas law allows for you to then use deadly force.

This isn’t about feelings, morality, or your opinion. So far, all facts released to the public point to this being a lawful homicide.

But we told you these things would happen.

You may know how the world works according to your handle, but you don't how the law works.

#1- Why is he carrying a knife? Yes, you can carry a knife legally, but why did KA bring the knife to a high school track meet? Did he feel threatened or have the need to protect himself? Being black doesn't qualify.

#2- Was he "being" physically assaulted to the point of needing to use deadly force? Was he being verbally assaulted with threats to his life?

#3- Did KA threaten to stab, and or kill Austin? or warn him that he had a knife and was going to use it to protect himself?

These are just a few of the questions the lawyers will ask, and how KA answers them will be very important. Also, supposedly there was a sizable number of witnesses who will corroborate as to what exactly happened. In the end, the use of "deadly force" to settle any altercation isn't permissible unless there is clear and substantiated evidence that it was absolutely necessary to avoid a life-threatening attack.

Two knuckle head teenage boys with too much testosterone acting like idiots, with one of them making a HUGE mistake and will go to prison on a manslaughter charge for at least 15-20 years. The other one paying the ultimate price with his life for being a punk.

Very sad for all involved.

Membrane wrote:

Speedyrunnerguy wrote:

I don't think race is whatsoever relevant here, but you can only attack in self-defense if there is an actual threat to your life

In Texas, the use of lethal force is only legally permissible if the aggressor is actually using or about to use lethal force on the victim. The claim that Anthony has made that stabbing Austin Metcalf was somehow self defense does not hold water. According to Texas law, Metcalf simply grabbing Anthony to remove him from a seat does not legally constitute Anthony killing Metcalf with a weapon. If it was the case that Anthony only punched Metcalf, this would not have gone to trial, but the fact that he killed him when not threatened with death has resulted in the second degree murder charge. Anthony should get life in prison without the possibility of parole, but this case has become such an unnecessary political issue that the judge will likely sentence him to 15 to 20 years in prison with the possibility of time reduced and parole. I doubt Anthony walks away from the Jury with an innocent verdict.

It\'s illegal to bring a knife on school property wrote:

Membrane wrote:

In Texas, the use of lethal force is only legally permissible if the aggressor is actually using or about to use lethal force on the victim. The claim that Anthony has made that stabbing Austin Metcalf was somehow self defense does not hold water. According to Texas law, Metcalf simply grabbing Anthony to remove him from a seat does not legally constitute Anthony killing Metcalf with a weapon. If it was the case that Anthony only punched Metcalf, this would not have gone to trial, but the fact that he killed him when not threatened with death has resulted in the second degree murder charge. Anthony should get life in prison without the possibility of parole, but this case has become such an unnecessary political issue that the judge will likely sentence him to 15 to 20 years in prison with the possibility of time reduced and parole. I doubt Anthony walks away from the Jury with an innocent verdict.

It's a Texas state law that weapons are illegal to bring on school property.