And, did the black players being boycotted against wake up one day and decide they were black? Or did it not quite work that way?
Holding up discrimination against people of color as a shield to protect trans women in sports is weak. It is a false analogy.
Blaire Fleming did not "wake up one day and decide she is a woman." It's a false analogy.
Fleming might not have made the decision to start claiming to be a girl/woman upon waking one day, but at some point in time Fleming definitely made a decision to start making that claim. Hence the change of his name from Brayden to Blaire.
Exactly when and precisely why Fleming made the decision to start "identifying as," claiming to be and pretending to be the opposite sex is immaterial here. Fleming is male just as you are.
Because Fleming is male, he doesn't belong in the category of sports created for female athletes - or in the locker rooms, toilets, showers, saunas, sleeping quarters, shelters and other spaces meant for female people, either.
Unless it turns out your good 800m kid received hormone treatments prior to starting puberty, he can’t break the WR. The rules aren’t as stupid as you think.
It's true that under the rules that World Athletics has now put in place, males without DSDs who've been through normal male puberty of adolescence can't use claims of having a trans gender identity to compete in women's events in which they could set world records.
But those rules were only adopted and put into force in late March 2023. The other poster said he made this joke with his son "a few years ago" when WA's rules were considerably looser.
“It might be what is needed to make a mockery out of it so more people might realize how stupid it really is.”
Blaire Fleming did not "wake up one day and decide she is a woman." It's a false analogy.
Fleming might not have made the decision to start claiming to be a girl/woman upon waking one day, but at some point in time Fleming definitely made a decision to start making that claim. Hence the change of his name from Brayden to Blaire.
Exactly when and precisely why Fleming made the decision to start "identifying as," claiming to be and pretending to be the opposite sex is immaterial here. Fleming is male just as you are.
Because Fleming is male, he doesn't belong in the category of sports created for female athletes - or in the locker rooms, toilets, showers, saunas, sleeping quarters, shelters and other spaces meant for female people, either.
Fleming decided to "come out" as a trans woman. (Actually, a girl, because I believe she was in early teen when she came out.)
She was "identifying as" female long before she finally came out. But she just did not have the courage to tell others about her identity. And no, she is not "pretending." That's her genuine identity whether you accept it or not.
Fleming might not have made the decision to start claiming to be a girl/woman upon waking one day, but at some point in time Fleming definitely made a decision to start making that claim. Hence the change of his name from Brayden to Blaire.
Exactly when and precisely why Fleming made the decision to start "identifying as," claiming to be and pretending to be the opposite sex is immaterial here. Fleming is male just as you are.
Because Fleming is male, he doesn't belong in the category of sports created for female athletes - or in the locker rooms, toilets, showers, saunas, sleeping quarters, shelters and other spaces meant for female people, either.
Fleming decided to "come out" as a trans woman. (Actually, a girl, because I believe she was in early teen when she came out.)
She was "identifying as" female long before she finally came out. But she just did not have the courage to tell others about her identity. And no, she is not "pretending." That's her genuine identity whether you accept it or not.
How do you tell if what is the genuine identity of a biological male claiming to be a female?
Did the black athletes have a biological competitive advantage over the white athletes?
It's telling that on a thread about males using gender identity claims to horn in on female intercollegiate sports in the USA in 2024, a presumably male poster decided to share a snippet about the inexcusable and regrettable racism that an American black man unfortunately was subjected to by white members of his sex in men’s intercollegiate sports nearly 80 years ago.
The link to Mississippi Today that the other poster provided is to a brief news bit that says in full:
On this day in 1946
Dec. 23, 1946
University of Tennessee refused to play a basketball game with Duquesne University, because they had a Black player, Chuck Cooper. Despite their refusal, the all-American player and U.S. Navy veteran went on to become the first Black player to participate in a college basketball game south of the Mason-Dixon line. Cooper became the first Black player ever drafted in the NBA — drafted by the Boston Celtics. He went on to be admitted to the Basketball Hall of Fame.
The suggestion, obviously, is that those who believe that the female half of the human race deserve our own category of sports from which all males are excluded because that’s the only way we can have equal opportunity, fair play and safety are in same league as the white supremacist racists in Tennessee of earlier generations who objected to a black bloke playing college sports with/against white fellas nearly 80 years ago.
Makes me wonder: back in 1946 when Chuck Cooper was mistreated by some racist white men in men’s intercollegiate basketball simply because Cooper was black, were black female college athletes at Duquesne and the University of Tennessee facing the same sort of racial prejudice and discrimination in women’s intercollegiate competition?
Or could it be that when Chuck Cooper was unfortunately dealing with racial prejudice from other men in men’s intercollegiate sports in the 1940s, and long afterwards, sexism and sex discrimination against girls and women in US education were so widespread that there were no competitive intercollegiate sports for female students at Duquesne, the University of Tennessee and most other US colleges/universities at all?
My hunch is that the poster who's brought up black men who once faced prejudice from other men in intercollegiate men's sports in the USA has no idea that if basketball Hall of Famer Chuck Cooper had been female, there would have been no risk of him experiencing racial prejudice in American college basketball - or in junior high, high school and professional sports - because Cooper would never had any chance to play school sports or pro basketball in the first place.
That would have been the case regardless of Cooper’s race and ethnicity. It wouldn’t have mattered what color Cooper’s skin was or where his family originally came from - until the mid-late 1970s in the US, just being female would have been enough to insure that Cooper would have had virtually no chance to play college and pro basketball, or participate in interscholastic sports of any kind.
If Cooper had been female, he wouldn't have had the chance to play NCAA college sports until 1982.
That would have been the case regardless of Cooper’s race and ethnicity. It wouldn’t have mattered what color Cooper’s skin was or where his family originally came from - until the mid-late 1970s in the US, just being female would have been enough to insure that Cooper would have had virtually no chance to play college and pro basketball, or participate in interscholastic sports of any kind.
If Cooper had been female, he wouldn't have had the chance to play NCAA college sports until 1982.
The graduates of Immaculata and Delta State must be really shocked to learn that the AIAW titles they won were not "college basketball."
There was even a tournament before AIAW, dating back to 1969.
Women's basketball finally received a national championship tournament in 1969 under the auspices of the Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics for Women. The first tournament was a 16-team affair held at one site (top-seede...
If you have a Y chromosome, you are a man, if not then you are a woman. Full stop. If you disagree, then you are mentally ill, because believe something and are trying to convince others to believe something contrary to Bio 101. That's the best case scenario for someone like you, the worst is you're actively trying to pedo groom children and get access to them in bathrooms, preschool book readings and drag shows and twerking.
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If you have a Y chromosome, you are a man, if not then you are a woman. Full stop. If you disagree, then you are mentally ill, because believe something and are trying to convince others to believe something contrary to Bio 101. That's the best case scenario for someone like you, the worst is you're actively trying to pedo groom children and get access to them in bathrooms, preschool book readings and drag shows and twerking.
That would have been the case regardless of Cooper’s race and ethnicity. It wouldn’t have mattered what color Cooper’s skin was or where his family originally came from - until the mid-late 1970s in the US, just being female would have been enough to insure that Cooper would have had virtually no chance to play college and pro basketball, or participate in interscholastic sports of any kind.
If Cooper had been female, he wouldn't have had the chance to play NCAA college sports until 1982.
The graduates of Immaculata and Delta State must be really shocked to learn that the AIAW titles they won were not "college basketball."
There was even a tournament before AIAW, dating back to 1969.
But the wording I deliberately chose clearly left room for the rare exceptions to the general rule that prevailed prior to the post-Title IX era that began in the 1970s:
until the mid-late 1970s in the US, just being female would have been enough to insure that Cooper would have had virtually no chance to play college and pro basketball, or participate in interscholastic sports of any kind.
Virtually no chance is not the same as absolutely no chance.
Prior to Title IX, some girls and women attending some private and public schools here and there in the USA had the opportunity to do some interscholastic competitive sports, typically a handful of sports in limited contexts and under restrictions. But even the small minority of girls and women who did get to do interscholastic sports prior to the Title IX era didn't have anywhere near the same opportunities for competitive interscholastic sports as their male peers did.
Also, the comparator I was using in this particular instance was the black man the other poster brought up - Chuck Cooper, the Duquesne basketball player who experienced racial prejudice in men's intercollegiate competition in 1946. The specific point I was making - that if Cooper had been female, then in 1946 Cooper wouldn't have had any chance to play intercollegiate competitive basketball for Duquesne, or most likely for any other college/uni, regardless of his skin color - is hardly undermined by your discovery that "There was even a tournament before AIAW, dating back to 1969." After all, 1969 was nearly a quarter century after 1946.
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You bring up the question of whether all women were banned from intercollegiate competition in the 1940s. I was passing through the University of New Hampshire gym a while back and I was surprised to see that they had team pictures on the walls dating to the 1920s with numerous women's sports. There was a National Federation for women's sports founded in the 1920s after women were allowed to vote, but the first intercollegiate women's competition was in 1896, and Smith formed a team in 1892.
Submitted by: Richard C. Bell, Ed.D., J.D. Abstract: Women's opportunities for competitive physical activity were limited in America until Federal Legislation, commonly referred to as Title IX, became law. It required America...
The Spartans suffered their second loss of the year, but Blaire Fleming received attention after committing a hard spike that knocked down an SDSU player.
If you have a Y chromosome, then you are MALE (man), if not then you are a female (woman). Doesn't matter if you two X chromosomes, if you have a Y.
Did I stutter? No I didn't.
Umm.. ever hear of Swyer Syndrome?
If you have a Y chromosome, then you are MALE (man), if not then you are a female (woman), except if the SRY transfers from the Y chromosome then you are MALE (man) because of the Y chromosome according toDr. Demoncrates Are EVIL Racist, Sexist, and Criminally Insane PhD & and Y Chromosomers but phenotypically you are female (woman). Doesn't matter if you have two X chromsomes, if you have a Y.
Did I stutter? No I didn't, but I am afraid I have been developing a stutter.
I’m more concerned about the female player on the team who did not get to play because a man took her place on the court. I am also concerned about the female who did not get a volleyball scholarship because it was given to a man instead.
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