Official 2024 Silesia DL Thread: Will the 800m and 3000m WRs Go Down?

WRs set with a pacer/lights should have an asterisk.

Several disciplines don't have that luxury and it is the not the same caliber of achievement or fair to compare them.

That's the first time I've seen Jakob grimace. He also pushed through the line unlike in the two mile record. It does bug me when someone busts a gut for 98% of the race and then loses time by putting on the brakes well before the line.

What a run! Most people did have rough days. I think that’s due to how lactic a few laps at 3000 world record pace can make you

Fair assessment. I think we have to acknowledge that Aregawi ran 7:21-low. His best event is probably 5,000 where he as you semi-allude to he could probably break 12:35.

I agree Jakob is speed-limited for 3:26.00 but that doesn’t mean everyone is. So fair counter there. Ultimately he is the outlier talent and his best event is 3,000 to me.

loved the way Jakob was able to smile at the finish. he was overjoyed. Shows you there is a reason for everything he does that makes it worth it.

So much more satisfying than watching Syd after another WR run, where she might try to force out half a smile. I realize that is just her personality, and it doesn't say anything about the quality of person she is.

shut up. you are annoying af. what a sad life you must lead.

Yeah I have to agree. It's just so easy to now point at the 1500m record and say it's a formality - except it's not. And yes in terms of points, that performance blows all the current distance records out of the water.

He is the absolute prototype 3000m runner. I have no doubt he can run a sensational 5000m right now too - maybe not the WR but as of today certainly something a tick either side of 12.40.0 and so with 3.43 (really 3.42) mile chops, this distance is just the sweet spot.

But last time I checked 1500m is half the distance of 3000m - it's a very different event physiologically. For me personally his 1500m potential hasn't been changed one bit by this race because that performance (I wrote here I fully expected him to obliterate that record of Komen and he did) was exactly what I thought he was capable of.

The race here

Can't wait for syd to go after paulino next year. the women's 400 is as strong as it's been in years.

Dude Paulino is so damn good. She literally just doesn't loose. That form in the last 100 is some of the best I see every time

I wonder if we’d think about Jakob differently if he hadn’t run the last 3 global 1500’s at all. Those are the races of his that people focus on most, yet outside of those he’s won 3 straight 5K championships (an underrated accomplishment), set two WRs, and run 3:26/3:43. Yet most of the conversation is still about how he got 4th in Paris in the 1500.

Klaver, my God! After her intro I finished before she did!

He has won every European champs race since 2018, is 2 times olympic champ and 2 time World champ before age of 24. not a huge failure altho he runs like a jackass in most 1500m finals

Yes, but to be fair the 3,000 is an off distance, so you wouldn’t expect the same density of performances. It’s why indoors so many sub-7:26 or 2mi equivalents exist. If 3,000 was a championship distance, I think there’s no doubt El Guerrouj/Geb/Bekele would have faster PBs, as opposed to targeting it one season or even just one race. Komen made it his for sure. Now Jakob is doing the same. I think I could be wrong, but we see more athletes’ maximal efforts at 1500 than 3000.

Of course that’s the conversation because the Olympics is a little bit more important than a DL event. Athletes train for years to peak at the right time for Championships. The don’t think ‘oh I better peak at that random DL event in Poland’.

Why isn’t she here now? Are her contract and sponsorships that good that she doesn’t need to compete? Is she not wanting to push and challenge herself? Is the sheltering and money of Grand Slam what she values? She deserves scorn for not showing up on the circuit.

He wins a gold medal every year and when he’s healthy wrecks the rest of the field so badly that we forget they were stacked with amazing talent.

2nd through 6th place in Paris were at 13:15.04 to 13:05.99 this year. And then there’s Jakob at 13:13.66.

Having to resort to a personal attack tells me everything.

An unassisted record is far more impressive than a purposefully assisted one and they should be distinguished.