This is 100% NOT a left-wing issue. I'm liberal as they come and all my liberal associates and friends are 100% not supportive of trans athletes competing with natural born females in sports. There is a major advantage and every girl I coach supports trans rights 100% in every other aspect of life but this is an invasion by male born athletes with advantages into girls sports where the playing field is not fair. Why should a trans athlete think their taking away a medal stand spot be welcomed by girls competing at a disadvantage???
You are incorrect. It is a left-wing issue because if you live in a left-controlled state, your daughters compete against boys, whereas if you live in a right-controlled state, they do not.
I lean right. Like many people who lean right, I am pro-choice. However, I will not insult you by arguing abortion rights are not a right-wing issue because many right-wingers are pro-choice. Similarly, please do not insult me by denying that boys are winning girls' races because of Democrats.
Yes, the idea that human beings can treat their bodies as raw material in order to align the body with the soul is an extreme expression of mind over matter. It's hyper liberal.
It might go without saying, but probably does not, that there is a distinction between liberalism and leftist politics. We use liberal and left interchangeably in the United States. Trans can be viewed through a liberal or leftist lens. Liberal stresses individual autonomy, self-expression, and mind over matter dualism. Leftism focuses on liberation from oppression, particularly liberation from allegedly oppressive social structures. Some forms of leftism are anti-liberal.
In terms of Democrat versus Republican support: I know that a lot of Democrats oppose trans girls/women in female sporting categories, but the Democrat party continually supports such policies. I never in my life thought I'd side with Ted Cruz in any argument, but he and other Republicans are among the few members of Congress who openly oppose things like housing male rapists in women's prisons. People concerned about women's rights and poor people are hard-pressed to pick a party these days.
National healthcare (Democrats)
Border control, which affects low wage workers most (Republican)
Birth control and elective abortion for at least 12 weeks (Democrat)
Females and males exist and have some distinct needs and rights (Republican)
Due process (Republican)
Free speech (mostly Republican)
Gassy D. seems intent on a binary classification of politics just like sex and gender. It can yap whatever it wants and the real world conveniently doesn’t have to care at all because none of this “mind over matter”, liberalism vs leftism, “viewing through the lens” etc. BS can be quantified. It’s just intellectual masturbation with no lasting value.
Calling free speech republican or democrat is laughable. Gender expression is free speech, as is religious speech.
Hahaha what neighborhood? I'm just a small, white distance runner and I've literally never felt threatened or scared in all my years living in BK and Manhattan. Sounds like you should go back home to the suburbs where the scary people can't get you.
Sometimes, things that aren't happening in NYC and the burroughs happen in other places. In other words, NYC is not the center of the universe. I once lived in Chicago, and local senior citizens used to carry small weapons (numchucks, a rock on a sock) on their daily walks around Washington Park. I wasn't really scared, but I was probably the naive/stupid one.
6% of Republicans support letting people play on team that matches their gender identity. Only a few years ago (2021) that was 10%.
Anything else you want to be wrong about?
Sorry dipsh1t, you just proved my point. 6% of the roughly 50% of our country that identifies as Republicans is such a small number it's not even noteworthy. That means in order to get these ridiculous rules passed, it must take a ton of liberals to override the 94% (assuming your figure isn't bullsh1t) of the rest of the country that thinks this is insane. So you say that most liberals don't support this. But if 94% of the rest of the country doesn't support it, the rules wreaking havoc on our society are caused by the much much much larger portion or libs. It's great you personally don't support it, but tale the L and own up to the fact the vast majority of your party does.
~333 million people in the US as on 2022. 6% of 50% of that is still 10 million people.
Border control, which affects low wage workers most (Republican)
Birth control and elective abortion for at least 12 weeks (Democrat)
Females and males exist and have some distinct needs and rights (Republican)
Due process (Republican)
Free speech (mostly Republican)
1) Not a bad thing at all
2) As others have pointed out, not something the Republican party actually cares about. If they didn't they wouldn't have blocked border control bills for political clout
3) Somehow the idea that people should have jurisdiction over their own bodies is political now
4) No one in their right mind would disagree. If 'liberals' thought men and women were the same then why would people transition?
5) what??? That's a constitutional right that the democratic party or Democrats have no urge to take away. If anything, blame the Republican controlled supreme Court for gutting Miranda rights
6) ??? Another thing no 'liberal' is trying to take away
So where do you live? If you want people to believe you, support your view with statistics from objective sources. If you can't, then find somewhere else to live.
Border control, which affects low wage workers most (Republican)
Birth control and elective abortion for at least 12 weeks (Democrat)
Females and males exist and have some distinct needs and rights (Republican)
Due process (Republican)
Free speech (mostly Republican)
1) Not a bad thing at all
2) As others have pointed out, not something the Republican party actually cares about. If they didn't they wouldn't have blocked border control bills for political clout
3) Somehow the idea that people should have jurisdiction over their own bodies is political now
4) No one in their right mind would disagree. If 'liberals' thought men and women were the same then why would people transition?
5) what??? That's a constitutional right that the democratic party or Democrats have no urge to take away. If anything, blame the Republican controlled supreme Court for gutting Miranda rights
6) ??? Another thing no 'liberal' is trying to take away
1. I never said national healthcare was bad. It might be difficult to have in the US, but I'm not arguing against it.
2. My point about border control is that the Democrats have recently had a very lax border policy that impacts low wage workers most beccause most illegal migrants are economic migrants. Wealthy people hire these illegal migrants instead of citizens, and this drives wages down. Meanwhile, they can virtue signal about how accepting and inclusive they are, while calling the poor people who object to this policy ignorant and xenophobic.
3. The idea that people "can have jurisdiction over their own bodies" has always been political; the view of the body as property owned by the individual is a liberal idea that displaced other political ideas (the King owns your body; the body belongs to God, etc.). Where abortion is concerned, simply asserting that people have jurisdiction over their own bodies does not solve the question of when and if a fetus at any stage of deveopment ought to have rights independent of the mother.
4. Plenty of people allegedly "in their right mind" think that the very categories male and female are socially created concepts that do not exist independent of Western culture. That's why so many people are so worried and angry about trans ideology. Not only are people saying males and females are not distinct types of human beings; they insist that everyone else believe this too. If you don't recognize this, you don't really grasp what is happening on this front.
5. I'm certain there are instances of Republicans shortchanging due process. I'm referring to recent Title IX changes that harken back to the Obama administration. These rules deny due process to people, mostly men, accused of sexual assault on college campuses.
6. Leftists who have gained power in the Democratic party are trying to take free speech rights away. In fact, many argue that "free speech" is a rightwing issue. Laws and policies about hate speech, dis and misinformation, and the Twitter files all reflect the desire to suppress, elminiate, or punish ideas deemed either "hateful" or "unscientific." Most of this is coming from the left.
The major point here is that the major political parties in the United States have changed substantially over the past 5-10 years. Many of the values and positions once embraced by the Democrats have been reframed as rightwing and vice versa. This list of issues is meant to illustrate the dilemma faced by the politically homeless (mostly former Democrats and leftists who object to new forms of totalitarianism).
If you think the democratic party charts left on the political spectrum, I've got some bad news for you. They've been right, in fact mid-right, of center for at least the last thirty years.
What the hell are you talking about? Just intentionally being obtuse trying to convince people on a running message board that Dems aren't "left on the political spectrum". Everyone knows they are. A large portion of them catering to these mentally unwell individuals who get "hurt" when competitors don't congratulate them when they beat all the girls. Without these Dems, this would not be an issue. This is absolutely a liberal/Dem issue.
Guessing that SomeBadNews is talking about economic policy. Your triggered response is a good example of how you, and so many in this country, have tunnel vision for social justice issues.
Isn't there just ONE actual male in that high school with some integrity to handle this problem the way it should have been handled a LONG time ago?
A boyfriend/brother of one of the competitors/ Anybody with a spine? Come on!
Case in point this guy who pretty much is just advocating violence.
And then there’s weak people like you. Afraid to be a stand up person and do what’s right.
Im not against trans people…. Or anyone for that matter. I am against arrogant bullies who take advantage of how this weak society is today. Trans people should compete against trans people….. not girls.
To not only do this but then grandstand and complain about others is just being an a-hole. This kid needs to be taught a lesson.
Case in point this guy who pretty much is just advocating violence.
And then there’s weak people like you. Afraid to be a stand up person and do what’s right.
Im not against trans people…. Or anyone for that matter. I am against arrogant bullies who take advantage of how this weak society is today. Trans people should compete against trans people….. not girls.
To not only do this but then grandstand and complain about others is just being an a-hole. This kid needs to be taught a lesson.
2) As others have pointed out, not something the Republican party actually cares about. If they didn't they wouldn't have blocked border control bills for political clout
3) Somehow the idea that people should have jurisdiction over their own bodies is political now
4) No one in their right mind would disagree. If 'liberals' thought men and women were the same then why would people transition?
5) what??? That's a constitutional right that the democratic party or Democrats have no urge to take away. If anything, blame the Republican controlled supreme Court for gutting Miranda rights
6) ??? Another thing no 'liberal' is trying to take away
1. I never said national healthcare was bad. It might be difficult to have in the US, but I'm not arguing against it.
2. My point about border control is that the Democrats have recently had a very lax border policy that impacts low wage workers most beccause most illegal migrants are economic migrants. Wealthy people hire these illegal migrants instead of citizens, and this drives wages down. Meanwhile, they can virtue signal about how accepting and inclusive they are, while calling the poor people who object to this policy ignorant and xenophobic.
3. The idea that people "can have jurisdiction over their own bodies" has always been political; the view of the body as property owned by the individual is a liberal idea that displaced other political ideas (the King owns your body; the body belongs to God, etc.). Where abortion is concerned, simply asserting that people have jurisdiction over their own bodies does not solve the question of when and if a fetus at any stage of deveopment ought to have rights independent of the mother.
4. Plenty of people allegedly "in their right mind" think that the very categories male and female are socially created concepts that do not exist independent of Western culture. That's why so many people are so worried and angry about trans ideology. Not only are people saying males and females are not distinct types of human beings; they insist that everyone else believe this too. If you don't recognize this, you don't really grasp what is happening on this front.
5. I'm certain there are instances of Republicans shortchanging due process. I'm referring to recent Title IX changes that harken back to the Obama administration. These rules deny due process to people, mostly men, accused of sexual assault on college campuses.
6. Leftists who have gained power in the Democratic party are trying to take free speech rights away. In fact, many argue that "free speech" is a rightwing issue. Laws and policies about hate speech, dis and misinformation, and the Twitter files all reflect the desire to suppress, elminiate, or punish ideas deemed either "hateful" or "unscientific." Most of this is coming from the left.
The major point here is that the major political parties in the United States have changed substantially over the past 5-10 years. Many of the values and positions once embraced by the Democrats have been reframed as rightwing and vice versa. This list of issues is meant to illustrate the dilemma faced by the politically homeless (mostly former Democrats and leftists who object to new forms of totalitarianism).
Stay in your lane, sweetie. You are beginning to sound like a rightwing version of that useless New Zealander around here who thinks he actually knows a thing or two about American politics.
Sorry dipsh1t, you just proved my point. 6% of the roughly 50% of our country that identifies as Republicans is such a small number it's not even noteworthy. That means in order to get these ridiculous rules passed, it must take a ton of liberals to override the 94% (assuming your figure isn't bullsh1t) of the rest of the country that thinks this is insane. So you say that most liberals don't support this. But if 94% of the rest of the country doesn't support it, the rules wreaking havoc on our society are caused by the much much much larger portion or libs. It's great you personally don't support it, but tale the L and own up to the fact the vast majority of your party does.
~333 million people in the US as on 2022. 6% of 50% of that is still 10 million people.
Is that really so insignificant?
Except the figures you're using aren’t accurate.
The other poster claimed earlier that “roughly 50% of our country…identifies as Republicans" - which isn't true. Taking his claim at face value, you're assuming it means that half of the 333 million people living in the USA at present - 166.5 million people - identify as Republicans.
But this overlooks that 73 million people living in the USA at present are under 18, and a good many people in the USA age 18 and up either aren't eligible to vote or don’t care about US politics enough to be registered to vote or to be affiliated with a party.
In the last presidential election, 2020, 168 million Americans were registered to vote. In 2022, 161 million were registered.
Of registered US voters, less than a third “identifies as Republican.”
Balletopedia uses figures from the 30 US states and one territory - the U.S. Virgin Islands - that allow people to indicate their party affiliation on voter registration forms and which make information available to the public.
Balletopedia says that of March 2024, 30% of registered voters in those 30 US states and one territory reported they were Republicans. 38% said they’re Democrats. 28% said they’re Independents. 4% said they’re affiliated with other minority political parties (such as the Libertarian Party, Green Party, Constitution Party).
Gallup gets its figures about party affiliation from nationwide polling done on a regular basis. Results of Gallup polling done over the 12 months show that the percentage of adults who are likely to vote in the USA and consider themselves to be Republicans ranges from 25-30%. Another 25-30% of likely voters consider themselves to be Democrats.
By contrast, Gallup results show that over the past year, 38-50% of adults in the USA likely to vote considered themselves to be Independents at the time they were polled (the numbers vary considerably from one poll to the next, hence wide range).
So anyways, 6% of the people in the USA who actually are Republicans would come out to be far fewer than 10 million peple. The real figure is probably 2-3 million people.
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~333 million people in the US as on 2022. 6% of 50% of that is still 10 million people.
Is that really so insignificant?
Except the figures you're using aren’t accurate.
The other poster claimed earlier that “roughly 50% of our country…identifies as Republicans" - which isn't true. Taking his claim at face value, you're assuming it means that half of the 333 million people living in the USA at present - 166.5 million people - identify as Republicans.
But this overlooks that 73 million people living in the USA at present are under 18, and a good many people in the USA age 18 and up either aren't eligible to vote or don’t care about US politics enough to be registered to vote or to be affiliated with a party.
In the last presidential election, 2020, 168 million Americans were registered to vote. In 2022, 161 million were registered.
Of registered US voters, less than a third “identifies as Republican.”
Balletopedia uses figures from the 30 US states and one territory - the U.S. Virgin Islands - that allow people to indicate their party affiliation on voter registration forms and which make information available to the public.
Balletopedia says that of March 2024, 30% of registered voters in those 30 US states and one territory reported they were Republicans. 38% said they’re Democrats. 28% said they’re Independents. 4% said they’re affiliated with other minority political parties (such as the Libertarian Party, Green Party, Constitution Party).
Gallup gets its figures about party affiliation from nationwide polling done on a regular basis. Results of Gallup polling done over the 12 months show that the percentage of adults who are likely to vote in the USA and consider themselves to be Republicans ranges from 25-30%. Another 25-30% of likely voters consider themselves to be Democrats.
By contrast, Gallup results show that over the past year, 38-50% of adults in the USA likely to vote considered themselves to be Independents at the time they were polled (the numbers vary considerably from one poll to the next, hence wide range).
So anyways, 6% of the people in the USA who actually are Republicans would come out to be far fewer than 10 million peple. The real figure is probably 2-3 million people.
Hah, so 2-3 million is so insignificant that it changes everything; either that or it’s a pointless nitpick.
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