LRC Note: We like to have one thread per subject. We've merged two threads on this into 1 and kept the original thread title. The 2nd thread was titled, "Tracksmith Decides: When Digging a Hole Make It Bigger."
People in my track club are saying they'll be boycotting Tracksmith b/c of this. Personally I try not to get upset about things on instagram because I am not 12 years old, but each to their own
I was about to say this is BS but then I read the instagram comments. Unbelievable.
People are demanding the post be taken down.
Others are saying Boston needs to have more charity runners all in the name of inclusion.
What I don't get is they've had this shirt every year right? Does it say "Qualifier"? I can't find a picture of it. Why would someone who hasn't qualified even want it? A bit surprised they'd even make it to begin with but their must be a market for this type of singlet.
Why do you care what people choose to wear or not wear? Do you also get annoyed when people wear "Harvard" or "Stanford" clothing even though they didn't get in?
Haha, 6:50 absolutely is jogging and you are a moron. This is not a humble brag, just an informed, realistic perspective. No one in the right mind thinks 6:50 is fast, the only allowed exception being if you’d are to running as an adult without any context. You’d be arrogant to think of yourself as “fast” if you run 6:50. You should think of yourself as someone with endurance who can hold a good pace for a long time. People of all athletic abilities can develop the competency to endure jogging for that long at that pace. Been to a race and seen sub 3? And get out of here with the average marathon pace metric…what a joke. That is skewed by loads of people not really running or jogging and that metric has not control for training duration or volume.
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit is it? They never said 6:50 was fast. In fact they said the opposite. So not only are you an a$hole you’re also a dumba$
This response was to someone (whose post is no longer there, probably you) who advised me that running 6:50 pace WAS fast and that I was humblebragging because I said it was jogging (in my previous post on this thread). In my earlier post, I was simply saying I'm amazed at how sensitive people are to be referred to as a jogger. It is laughable. Watch someone run 6:50 pace, 7:50 pace, 8:50 pace, 9:50 pace, and it all looks like jogging. Who cares. They also brought up the average marathon time is 4:30 or something....which doesn't mean that 3 flat isn't still jogging, lol.
I was about to say this is BS but then I read the instagram comments. Unbelievable.
People are demanding the post be taken down.
Others are saying Boston needs to have more charity runners all in the name of inclusion.
What I don't get is they've had this shirt every year right? Does it say "Qualifier"? I can't find a picture of it. Why would someone who hasn't qualified even want it? A bit surprised they'd even make it to begin with but their must be a market for this type of singlet.
Why do you care what people choose to wear or not wear? Do you also get annoyed when people wear "Harvard" or "Stanford" clothing even though they didn't get in?
but why do you care that they are only selling a shirt to qualifiers?
Like, why are you so impacted that you are so passionate about this one thing?
Reading some more of the comments, Colleen Quigley has weighed in as well. In response to a comment from a runner saying that she no longer feels comfortable wearing Tracksmith clothing that she purchased for Chicago this weekend, Quigley replied "Return it. Never rep a company that gives you the ick."
the comments are wild. They're acting like they've had some horrible injustice done to them. Road races are dominated by slower runners. You can find more than a few races each weekend that walkers/joggers/runners can participate in at any time. Most faster or elite level runners don't just hop in the Thin Mint 5k. Why? because let Sally win in a 24 min 5k...I can run a TT on my own without the hassle of some fun run 5k. It's like USATF, they don't just let anyone run at USA's. Boston has always been exclusive and it seems it got really lax the last couple of years. I had a friend who ran 8 plus minute miles and qualified for a 23 year old. I'm sorry but that's not fast. It doesn't matter age or gender it's about the speed you're running. If you don't like it find a new race (their are many options) or run faster. Simple.
the comments are wild. They're acting like they've had some horrible injustice done to them. Road races are dominated by slower runners. You can find more than a few races each weekend that walkers/joggers/runners can participate in at any time. Most faster or elite level runners don't just hop in the Thin Mint 5k. Why? because let Sally win in a 24 min 5k...I can run a TT on my own without the hassle of some fun run 5k. It's like USATF, they don't just let anyone run at USA's. Boston has always been exclusive and it seems it got really lax the last couple of years. I had a friend who ran 8 plus minute miles and qualified for a 23 year old. I'm sorry but that's not fast. It doesn't matter age or gender it's about the speed you're running. If you don't like it find a new race (their are many options) or run faster. Simple.
I imagine part of, or maybe all of the reason the whiney “modern audiences” feel so amped up to attack this singlet is that the Boston Marathon was already a target of the “modern audiences” type. The race has caught some minor flak from them just in account of requiring a time to enter (people have even tried the classics like “qualifying times are fatphobic” and “qualifying times have a disparate impact on runners of colour”), that one fat black author-activist went on a whole campaign in April claiming the Boston Marathon was racist, and keyed up by that campaign, that one cheer team tried to cry racism when the cops stopped them from entering the course. Once you’re in the crosshairs of the modern audiences, you can never really leave. The attacks might die down for a while but one mention of you and they’re back on the offensive. Doesn’t matter that technically this product is not sold by the BAA, it’s close enough for the intellectuals that make up modern audiences.
Wow, the amount of butt hurt people commenting on Instagram is astonishing. Apparently the world is not longer allowed to have or do anything that isn't "all inclusive". Good Grief! So only people who get in the race can buy the shirt. So what???? Everything doesn't have to be for everybody. If you don't like it, don't buy their stuff, but save the virtue signal whining. Yes Tracksmith markets to a niche, the "faster" people who log the most miles. Not Joe/Jane Jogger who thinks 40-50 miles a week is "training hard". Yes it's a bit elitist, especially with what they charge for their clothing. The SJWs need to shut the hell up. We don't care what they think. Protest with your wallet, not cry on Instagram. Life isn't about pleasing everyone. Get over yourselves.
the comments are wild. They're acting like they've had some horrible injustice done to them. Road races are dominated by slower runners. You can find more than a few races each weekend that walkers/joggers/runners can participate in at any time. Most faster or elite level runners don't just hop in the Thin Mint 5k. Why? because let Sally win in a 24 min 5k...I can run a TT on my own without the hassle of some fun run 5k. It's like USATF, they don't just let anyone run at USA's. Boston has always been exclusive and it seems it got really lax the last couple of years. I had a friend who ran 8 plus minute miles and qualified for a 23 year old. I'm sorry but that's not fast. It doesn't matter age or gender it's about the speed you're running. If you don't like it find a new race (their are many options) or run faster. Simple.
Standards have been getting tougher, not easier, the last few years. Over 15 minutes faster since 2012. And your 8+ minute friend would have run over 3:30 which would not have gotten her in since 2018.
the comments are wild. They're acting like they've had some horrible injustice done to them. Road races are dominated by slower runners. You can find more than a few races each weekend that walkers/joggers/runners can participate in at any time. Most faster or elite level runners don't just hop in the Thin Mint 5k. Why? because let Sally win in a 24 min 5k...I can run a TT on my own without the hassle of some fun run 5k. It's like USATF, they don't just let anyone run at USA's. Boston has always been exclusive and it seems it got really lax the last couple of years. I had a friend who ran 8 plus minute miles and qualified for a 23 year old. I'm sorry but that's not fast. It doesn't matter age or gender it's about the speed you're running. If you don't like it find a new race (their are many options) or run faster. Simple.
A country filled with brittle, wilting and melting snowflakes. What is next? Olympic marathon trials is not inclusive enough? I don't even understand why they care so much? You don't or can't BQ while someone else can. Let them have their singlet. It doesn't bother me.
This was another woke mob with a minor voice doing another hit job of cancellation. At last a lot of people defending TS under the apology post. I think this is the majority's stance.
This was another woke mob with a minor voice doing another hit job of cancellation. At last a lot of people defending TS under the apology post. I think this is the majority's stance.
all the traumatized slow pokes stood up for such a worthy cause.
anyways, the comments on their apology post were just as bad.
The backlash was slightly more qualified than I originally thought. The fact that they edited Jock Semple's name out of the original post was an omission of guilt. If they simply didn't quote running's Most Infamous Man their post would have been totally acceptable.
That said, people are still mad that there was a hundred-something dollar piece of apparel they couldn't have and that's still extremely funny to me. I love that competitive running is in many ways an exclusive activity and you have to hit an objective mark to get into certain races.
I had the utmost disdain for Instagram running influencers before today and that hasn't changed.
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Reading some more of the comments, Colleen Quigley has weighed in as well. In response to a comment from a runner saying that she no longer feels comfortable wearing Tracksmith clothing that she purchased for Chicago this weekend, Quigley replied "Return it. Never rep a company that gives you the ick."
Coleen Quigley is another leftist a$$clown, like most of the pro runners.
The backlash was slightly more qualified than I originally thought. The fact that they edited Jock Semple's name out of the original post was an omission of guilt. If they simply didn't quote running's Most Infamous Man their post would have been totally acceptable.
That said, people are still mad that there was a hundred-something dollar piece of apparel they couldn't have and that's still extremely funny to me. I love that competitive running is in many ways an exclusive activity and you have to hit an objective mark to get into certain races.
I had the utmost disdain for Instagram running influencers before today and that hasn't changed.
Have to have a little sympathy for people who run every day, love the sport, race a lot, train seriously, and are made to feel not real runners by this sort of thing.
Look, I'd qualify for Boston by 20 minutes if I wanted to, but many people really love the sport and can't get into that race despite all their efforts. They understand that it's a timed sport, and fair is fair, but have a little sympathy for them eh.
I don't have any sympathy for these people they are grown adults! Don't they have other things to do than worry about whether or not someone considers them a "real runner" because they jog 12 minute miles?
A high school kid who can't make varsity? Yeah sure. An adult needs to get a life and stop crying.
I get the jock semple issue, that was bad. But the level of entitlement from these absolute insufferable losers is really a sight to behold. Acting like the word jogger is some terrible slur. Acting all hurt because someone made something they can't have.
I always knew these communities have gotten more entitled and whiny, but I never knew it was THIS bad.