Men Are Lost

It’s “loser”, chief. Weren’t you just yesterday that “boys are told it's all right to cry like a baby and share their emotions, with some mothers forcing them to eat soy and takings supplement from tropical berries extract to get their vitamins”? How is that different?

Real men most certainly do not call somebody else a looser. Real men know how to spell.

Nope.

Arguments are stronger than tungsten steel. Stronger than a prickle of porcupines. Stronger than black insomnia coffee on steroids.

I think in today’s society, you have to actively go out of your way to pursue meaningfully challenges that stretch you to become better. If you don’t, you’ll end up being a milquetoast, complacent nobody that settles for comfort and familiarity the rest of your life.

Yes, that was a mistake. I don't understand your point. What is similar between a sociological analysis (even if it wasn't a great one), and a attempt to push another poster down?

(How funny : looking for a translation of "to push somebody down" from my language (yeah, English is not 1rst language) here is what comes first as an example : :

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"When someone needs to use so many ugly words to try to push someone down, it means that that person is weak, and lacks any real arguments.")

Heck, I chopped a tree down by myself as a 12 year old boy scout.

Reading through this, if you read the article or at least skimmed it, it doesn't say men are discriminated against, it says they are lost. There's a big difference.

To err is human. You want to show us how you do in my language?

You don’t see the similarities between telling someone to “grow a pair” and saying men are being force fed soy?

Lucky you! You got that prerequisite at 12 years old. That leaves a lot of time to get the other ones.

I said boys. Implying young boys, maybe that wasn't clear.

A couple of observations from my life, I'm male, so it's male dominated. I'm 35 married with 2 little kids.

1.) For most people dating can be really hard and frustrating.
I spent my first couple of years in my late teens pining after a girl who wasn't interested. Then 3 out of the next 4 girls I dated had the relationship ended because they started seeing someone else and I found out via facebook. I didn't really have other experiences which were quite as traumatic, but dating involves lots of rejections and being ghosted. It also made it hard to be care about being empathetic towards the women I was dating (which made the process even more frustrating).

Obviously, these frustrations aren't really specific to either gender, but it's easy to see how spending years being frustrated (even if it's due to own goals) can lead to belief systems that are filled with anger.

2.) I feel judged for having sexual and other desires.

I remember reading a short story during class called the clan of the one-breasted women. (It's a story about folks out near the nuclear bomb test sites in Arizona who have a preponderance of breast cancer).

My wife shared a meme with me the other day about how sex to men was just about them trying to get back into their mother's womb, "how true lol".

I converted to a conservative sect of Christianity in my early twenties which didn't help anything.

I think this applies to other male desires as well such as competitiveness, capacity for violence/physicality.

The larger truth here is that every behavior that is done is being judged by lots of someone on the internet and learning to drown that out is a tough skill to master. Some examples "get a job and stop being lazy" vs "jobs are for suckers" and "4 hour work week". And for the ladies if you put out your a "slut" and if you don't "you're an unfun judgy prude" or a "tease". It's natural for the thing which judges you to be more prominent in your mind.

3.) The alternatives to working hard and being responsible seem really attractive at times.

Everyone talks about porn/video games, but fewer talk about (not political) the hunter biden's, who has kids with like 5 different women and doesn't take care of any of them and seems to have as much sex and drugs as he wants. Not living up to your responsibility to others can seem very enticing, (especially since those folks tend to be the loudest about how great their lives are).

So a real man would say boys are being force fed soy but wouldn’t dare tell someone to grow a pair. Makes sense.

First, I have never claimed being a real men. I think I know what it takes but i'm not quite there yet. I believe i'm on the right path though.

Secondly, I still don't see your point. What an observation of a trend in society (which you might disagree with, but that's not the point here), has to do with trying to push someone down? I wasn't targeting anybody nor trying to push someone down. I was noticing that, in my opinion, the way young boys are raised today, are not helping them become real men.

My 17 y/o son wanted me to grill last night. No problem. I asked him to prep the grill and fire up the charcoal while I drove home from work. "I don't know how" he replied. He knows now (and I had shown him before I swear), but that's a minor failure as a father on my part.

So if a black person were to blame his problems on the color of their skin you, or at least a few of the people also piling on to the truth, would have the same reaction? I think recent history would tell us that's not very likely.

I will add that boys (and girls) should be “lost” in their late teens and early twenties. Part of that age is figuring out who you are and what you want out of life. And if you don’t know those things of course you feel lost.