CDC issues 'chestfeeding' guidelines for biological males 'lactating'

Another person with poor English comprehension. I said "the air that surrounds you", which refers to the air that you're breathing right now. No, the specific food/drink in your house has not been tested extensively; an occasional sample is tested wherever it was packaged and the results are extrapolated to the rest of the batch. The lack of individualized testing is why there are countless examples of products (including baby formula) needing to be recalled after being delivered to grocery stores.

Positive proof of harmlessness is not typically required as a precondition to exposing oneself or a child to a substance. Unless there is evidence of harmfulness, use of the product is at the discretion of the parent.

Yah because there's no safety difference between drinking a bottle of water from a factory that regularly tests their product and meets rigorous health and safety standards, and having a baby suck an unknown curdled grey sputum out of a drugged up male teat. Exactly the same thing.

The actual substance is either safe or unsafe, as can be seen in cases like this:

npr.org

FDA warns against using another powdered baby formula after a 2nd death

The FDA now cautions against using a specific lot of Abbott Nutrition's Similac PM 60/40 after a second infant dies. Abbott voluntarily recalled the specialty product on Monday.

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You may be more willing to assume the factory-produced substance is safe, but in both cases there is no strong evidence beforehand to support either conclusion. Nevertheless, you ingest it anyway due to there not being any evidence of harmfulness. This is how things typically work.

Thought experiment: I have taken a bunch of different medications and there's a viscous green pus spurting out of my anus. There's no specific, strong evidence beforehand to assume it's unsafe to ingest. You can either have a glass full of this butt pus or a bowl of Ben and Jerry's. You might assume the Ben and Jerry's is safer to eat but how could you possibly know? Which do you choose?

Weak analogy. "How many of you are doctors?" doesn't want to ingest anything himself, he just wants people to feed unknown substances to newborns.

Follow up question: would feeding someone your butt pus validate your identity as an ogre? If so, then that's all you need in order to justify feeding it to a newborn baby.

Great, you have acknowledged the validity of the statement I have been making throughout the thread. Until such evidence is presented, any statement that it is definitely unsafe is baseless conjecture and whether or not the untested substance is acceptable is at your discretion. This is how things typically work.

I haven't expressed an opinion on what I want people to do; I said there is no evidence to support the claim that doing it is unsafe to the infant.

So you're gonna drink his butt pus? Bold, but at least you're consistent. Enjoy.

It doesn't matter what I would do personally. I am simply stating the fact that there is no evidence of harmfulness (or strong evidence of harmlessness). As long as they are informed about it, whether or not the lack of certainty either way is acceptable to the patient is at their discretion.

"As long as they are informed about it," can confirm- babies aren't informed

"whether or not the lack of certainty either way" English not your strong suit?

"acceptable to the patient" babies aren't patients

"at their discretion" babies can't use discretion

Back in '82 a film came out called "Tootsie" starring Dustin Hoffman in which he played the part of an actor who dressed as a woman and assumed the role of a woman. The whole premise to the film was that assuming a cross-gender role brought him in touch with his "feminine side" - as a guy he was a jerk - but when it was eventually revealed he was really a man it was quite shocking to all concerned. You couldn't make a film like that now. There is nothing shocking today about men pretending to be women. Dustin at least didn't try breastfeeding anybody - and he only did it to get the work. And he did get the girl. The real one.

In the evidence-based medicine model, if there is a dearth of research on a topic, the clinician is supposed to draw upon other forms of knowledge. One valuable piece of information is the observation that normal, healthy adults do not use infants as a prop in their identity work. There's plenty of evidence that narcissistic parents harm their children. Another valuable form of information is our knowlege about child sexual abuse; perpetrators often manipulate healthy forms of bodily and emotional intimacy to access victims. If you cannot see that a male's desire to nurse an infant is far more likely to stem from a paraphilia or severe mental health problems than a wholesome motivation to be a good mother, you're judgement is warped. Nobody should be condoning or promoting these interventions and behaviors.

Your opinion on what people should do is implicitly communicated by you arguing against those who oppose transgender women breastfeeding. What else would compel you to argue so aggressively about this? I highly doubt it's purely just for factual accuracy.

Please define "Hillbillies". Seems to be a divisive term to me.

It's not the issue of "Men" trying to breastfeed their kids, that's their business...and good luck with that! It's the fact that the CDC is wasting time and money (taxpayers) on creating this guideline for "Basically Zero" people (your words), instead of focusing on REAL health matters for the majority of the population. FYI- Since the CDC did such a bang up job with Covid, if I was a dude trying to squeeze milk out of my chest and am looking to the incompetent CDC for guidance, I'd start looking elsewhere.

Why did we have to stop pretending that it's a mental illness? They're all autogynephiles

Dude, if you haven't seen by now that the "experts" are lying to you, I don't know what it is going to take...

Sure, but the CDC doesn't support meth milk. The main criticism that the CDC should at least caution about the safety of milk with sex change hormones seems reasonable.

Transgenderism is a mental illness. Why do we have to accommodate their delusions?

Liberals are funny!