Rejected or waitlisted everywhere I wanted to attend due to my race

Sorry that happened - I saw this every year at my school. Especially with the recent test optional policies, I've seen less qualified (still quite good students, but think high 1400s vs high 1500s) 'under represented minorities' get in more, while other people who would have gone to a top school had to settle for lower ranked schools.

However, I find it funny that every college talks a lot about "equity" but almost every black (or Hispanic) student is from a very privileged background. About ~66% of blacks at top colleges are African, Caribbean, or biracial; while the rest are quite wealthy. There was a story about someone, who was black, whose application essay to Stanford was just "BLM" repeated 200+ times...his father was a higher-up at one of the largest banks, probably making easily $5 million per year. He's not oppressed at all, but he helps their numbers a lot. Personally, I knew a quite wealthy (admittedly biracial, but still) black kid who scored a 1590 and was accepted almost everywhere - insanely qualified with great awards and extracurriculars, but he'd have somewhat less success if he were Asian or white. Another black kid who had similar success had both parents who were doctors - don't know how much they made, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't knocking on the door of the top 1%

Similarly, I knew someone Hispanic (who looked basically 100% European) whose parents were both very successful - one was a professor at a good college, while the other was something else - but she also fulfilled a quota so she was accepted to multiple places. Strong student, but she wouldn't have had the same success otherwise.

Rice and WashU are still great schools. Look at any 'elite' company's directory, and you'll see those colleges represented, even at companies as 'prestigious' as some PE firms.

Yeah, WashU is close to the hood, but I meant that he (assuming OP is male) should say that he’s non binary, and that his existence is “literally under attack” and that he “feels unsafe” because the republicans.
He wouldn’t have to change anything either, which is why I feel like it’d work, and obviously every college would view that as a very compelling reason to transfer

Be careful the persona you are exhibiting is that of an entitled brat. This is a rather public forum and you selected the username of "systemic racism." Followed by your hypothesis that, "I know that if I had been any other race, I'd likely have been accepted everywhere I applied." Rationalizing your waitlist positioning is unhealthy!

Lastly, re-read the post by Oblomov. Especially the following excerpt, " 'Wow I'm just as indistinguishable as everyone else like me..." I remember talking with me dad at this similar (but different) point in my life and he rather-unsympathetically said 'looks like you'll have to make other plans.' Now, and at the time, I see why he did this: to convince me that it wasn't a big deal, life goes on and you'll just have to find a way to make whatever 'it' is work."

I have two pieces of advice for you, take them or leave them.

1) Stop blaming others for your shortcomings.

2) Wherever you end up going, don't major in "Math".

OP sounds unimpressive and entitled.

Would not admit to my office hours, let alone my university.

- Tenured faculty

Very well said. I have noticed that as well. I do agree that they're are very good students. Just not exceptionally bright ones you would expect at Ivy's. And many of them do come from very well to do backgrounds. But democrats don't care. They're all about pretending to care and filling in spots by skin color regardless of the background. I remember a twin black brothers from my school. They both went to Harvard. Their parents lived in the biggest house in the area. And this is the area where the fictional movie family from Coming To America supposed to have lived in. And their friends were all non-black. They were whiter than the white kids. I found this to be the general pattern. In reality it's the Asian kids who actually rise from very poor economic background on the rare occasion it does happen. Yes, it's true. Most Asians who get into Ivy's do come from wealthy backgrounds but not different than anyone else.

Yeah he summarized it well. Most people at top colleges are from upper middle or above backgrounds (Wash U’s median income is $272k), and this includes very wealthy (non Asian) minorities.

I chose my username “equity” for this thread since I found if ironic - nothing says “equity” like helping already privileged students become even more privileged. They almost never pick a poor kid (of any race, but especially black) from a bad inner city or area like Appalachia - instead, they’ll look for blacks living in places like Naperville instead of Englewood

And yes, a black student whose family makes a lot, let’s say $500k per year, is privileged - they will live in a very nice suburb or downtown area and have an easy life. Not denying that they may face some racism, but they still will have a good life

You need to take some responsibility for your lack of admissions.

That being said, looking at the history of academia and its quotas on Jews in the 1930-1960s, it appears from data leaking out from the Harvard/UNC case is that Asians are the new Jews.

There is a reason that the City Colleges of New York used to be fantastic. Smart Jews often settled for these schools.

Ratioed. Hard.

There are multiple Orange Counties. You mean California?

You should've just run faster and you could've had your pick of those schools. A wise coach of mine once told a runner on my team to stop wasting time going to after-school clubs and come to practice on time because running fast gives you probably 10x the chance of getting noticed by those schools than academics. Being a hyper-conscientious box checking bot doesn't impress anyone. Develop other parts of yourself and stop blaming others. Use your intelligence to figure that out now rather than in 5-10 years after grad school.

The recent New Yorker ran an article describing an inside joke at Harvard about admissions. I can't believe the New Yorker, of all outlets, ran the story. A summary follows:

The joke memo had been written on Harvard admissions-office stationery, during the earlier investigation. It was purportedly from an associate director of admissions and parodied the admissions officer downplaying an Asian American applicant’s achievements. The memo denigrated “José,” who was “the sole support of his family of 14 since his father, a Filipino farm worker, got run over by a tractor,” saying, “It can’t be that difficult on his part-time job as a senior cancer researcher.” It continued, “While he was California’s Class AAA Player of the Year,” with an offer from the Rams, “we just don’t need a 132 pound defensive lineman,” apparently referring to a slight Asian male physique. “I have to discount the Nobel Peace Prize he received. . . . After all, they gave one to Martin Luther King, too. No doubt just another example of giving preference to minorities.” The memo dismissed the fictional applicant as “just another AA CJer.” That was Harvard admissions shorthand for an Asian American applicant who intends to study biology and become a doctor, according to the trial transcript.

Rojo is right though, take the school that gives you the most money. I have no idea what people think they're going to get out of an elite undergrad degree. If you're looking for maximum prestige I think a winning strategy is to go to the best school you can dominate academically. The real truth is that life isn't about optimizing every single thing you do and truly successful people become that way by investing their time in something they value and are motivated by. Getting a bachelors degree from an ivy and finding a high paying entry-level corporate job to abuse you until you quit, or suffering through grad school until you find something you want to do is not the only way to live life. Money equals freedom to go your own way, and there's nothing wrong with swimming in the smaller pond where your professors and advisors might see you as special and prioritize helping you out.

The kid was not black and graduated from Yale. He wrote the repetitive "Black Lives Matter" on one of the many short essays applicants are required to fill out.

cnn.com

Student gets into Stanford after writing #BlackLivesMatter on application 100 times | CNN

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If you're applying to college, you can spend hours crafting the perfect admission essay. Of you can just write the same word 100 times. It worked for Ziad Ahmed.

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Thus thread is full of racists who claim we should be fine with that racism. Disgusting

Due to your race? What race did you run? I am sure the coaches don't care about just one race. What are your PRs?

OP, I’ve posted on this subject enough that most people know my story. My daughter, who is white, upper middle class, had very similar stats to you. Only a hair lower on the SAT but close enough. Perfect math score, which actually really is a dime a dozen. She got accepted to your great, but non-Ivy schools. We talked her out of applying to the Ivies and Stanford anyway, because we knew she would be actively discriminated against and we weren’t getting any aid of any kind anyway.

This was all made abundantly clear when we visited a very prestigious school in the south, and one of the admissions counselors during the general presentation promoted just how unimportant SAT scores are and they wouldn’t look at them and also how “diverse” the school is now in terms of minority and international representation. Never visited a “woker” school either in terms of how hostile they were toward white Americans with their signage all over the campus and the general vibe of the tour guide. I took pictures because I found it appalling. No way was my kid going there, even if they cut the tuition in half. Ironically, a friend of hers from the same high school got in there without submitting SAT as it was 200 points lower than my daughter’s, she had a very embellished resume and essay, and she applied in engineering. I’m sure this is going on at every school across the nation.

So you have three choices. Either accept on Rice or WashU, both extremely good schools tho we preferred Rice, if you can afford it. Or apply to a private, high tier but not top tier university that will give you significant merit aid and then go kick ass, or find a way to hide or spend all of your liquid income like others on here have done (exploiting a flawed system) so you can get significant financial aid at a top school. Rice is a top school.

Our daughter chose the middle scenario, and it was a great choice. $50k in merit aid annually, she’s already talking about being lined up to graduate valedictorian, has a summer research gig that she actually wants (not merely gets as a frosh) lined up, is double majoring, and not one of her classes is greater than 15 kids, the big advantage over a state school. She’s pre-med, and I have no doubt that she will get accepted to a very good med school or MD/PhD program.

Take it for what it’s worth… also, there’s nothing wrong with majoring in math if you love it. That was just stupid advice. Relative to what? Psychology? English? Communications? Ethnic studies. As our president would say, “C’mon man.” But, having said that, keep in mind that AI is coming for your job. So choose wisely. That’s another reason why I wouldn’t pay a lot of money for a degree, even if it was from MIT. Ridiculous. Stanford now costs almost $90,000 per year, all in. Why anyone would pay that, of the third that do, is the problem.

So Stanford is blatantly racist then? I wonder what this guy’s GPA, curriculum, and SATs were? It’s curious they weren’t mentioned in the article. If he had an unweighted 4.0, a 1580+ SAT, and like 13 AP classes, I would think it would be mentioned. Glad we have yet another social justice warrior and martyr for the cause who will learn no hard skills and have nothing tangible to offer the world in terms of engineering or science. Maybe he will go be an attorney and advocate for the marginalized at some $50,000 per year salary. Yeah right. F Stanford.

You do realize the kid is ASIAN, no?