Is your whole thesis is that Jews are the elite ruling class and any prejudice or crimes against them are overblown given the power you think they collectively hold relative to other ethnic groups?
Lol. Even Musk bans Ye, but LRC let’s Carmine just keeps rolling. Carmine, tell us how you really feel about the Jews. How about your thoughts on if the holocaust happened.
I'm with you on opposing Nazism, and I appreciate your Grandfather and his service.
I also do not look to Ye as a moral or thought leader (and in general, it annoys me when just about any musician, athlete, or thespian uses their platform to discuss political issues).
I disagree, however, with your assertion that "acknowledging that 'Hitler did some good things,' then you are minimizing the unprecedented evil they brought upon the world. You are either a Nazi playing coy or an incredibly stupid, naive person who deserves to be ridiculed." As Burke (who by the way, I agree with like 2% of the time) noted, Hitler did not rise to power while having two horns on his head and spiked tail. He did things that people perceived to be good, that most people would call "good". Given our political climate today, where people seem to want to follow their group and call the other evil no matter what, it is worthwhile to recognize that great evil when it is developing may not look so bad to a majority of people. I think that is where Burke was going with it.
According to most accounts, Hitler was a great dog owner. I like dogs as well, and I can appreciate good dog ownership (even if the owner is atrocious in other ways). I don't think acknowledging reality re: Hitler means, as you suggested, that I am "a Nazi playing coy, or an incredibly stupid, naive person who deserves to be ridiculed."
Ironically, I probably agree with you on just about everything WAY more than I do Burke, so... cheers and have a great weekend.
What was so unprecedented about the evil the Nazis did?
Did the Euro powers not engage in genocides, slavery, and colonization? For centuries, not one decade?
Do brown and black lives not matter as much as Jewish ones?
Were Jews the only victims of the Nazis?
How do you like what is being done to Palestine?
Ah yes, the “other bad people did bad things and aren’t condemned for it therefor it’s wrong to condemn _ for it” fallacy.
Beautiful argument strategy that my genius 10 year old brother uses.
I haven't read anything in this thread. But even if I had, the offense I would have taken would have been my personal problem. Not having read this thread, I say the same thing I would have said had I read it. Do not delete the thread. Restore Ye to Twitter.
Ah yes, the “other bad people did bad things and aren’t condemned for it therefor it’s wrong to condemn _ for it” fallacy.
Beautiful argument strategy that my genius 10 year old brother uses.
That’s not what I’m arguing at all. I’m saying that this unrealistic and naive way of looking at people as all virtuous or all evil is beyond dumb. But, by all means, go on viewing yourself as a moral God who has rightful standing to determine who makes the cut on being a “good person”.
I am the son of a Holocaust survivor. My Great Grandparents, Grandparents, Aunt and her 3 year old boy were gassed at Auschwitz. My Grandmother was one of 10 siblings and the only survivor among them lost his first wife and four children. My Mother was severely traumatized mentally and physically her whole life. This is just a tiny slice of my family that were targeted just for being Jewish. It started with words and demonization. By their Hungarian neighbours and "friends".
I am not worried about Kanye, but he has millions of followers, and if you read some of the comments among those followers, and you were Jewish, you would be very concerned. Accusing Jewish doctors of trying to kill him and all the other tropes that he voices to a worldwide audience, all it takes is a spark to light his fire. This is NOT a free speech issue.
Ah yes, the “other bad people did bad things and aren’t condemned for it therefor it’s wrong to condemn _ for it” fallacy.
Beautiful argument strategy that my genius 10 year old brother uses.
That’s not what I’m arguing at all. I’m saying that this unrealistic and naive way of looking at people as all virtuous or all evil is beyond dumb. But, by all means, go on viewing yourself as a moral God who has rightful standing to determine who makes the cut on being a “good person”.
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