He never implied he thought she was innocent, just that he has doubts. I have doubts too because she is accused of a doping strategy that would be innefective and easy to detect. But on the other hand her burrito explanation is even more unlikely.
I think there is more to this story, for example she may have been taking suplements that contained various things and did not know it contained a banned substance. However, that defence still equals guilty as far as the doping agencies are concerned, because if it is a suplememt, it is your responsability to know whats in it. Therefore she can't use this excuse and had to make up the lame burrito one.
What ever the true story is, I think we will never know it, but I have do not believe the burrito defence at all and I also doubt she was taking nandralone orally, intentionally, for the specific nandralone effects. I think most likely she is guilty of something, but its unclear what. I'm happy with the result of the ban, since we didn't get a more plausible explanation than a burrito.
If that is the case she should have just been honest and said so. Coming up with implausible burrito defenses instead of saying "I was taking a bunch of shady stuff and one must have been tainted" would have at least been honest
Absolutley agreed. That is why I said I'm happy with the ban.
If that is the case she should have just been honest and said so. Coming up with implausible burrito defenses instead of saying "I was taking a bunch of shady stuff and one must have been tainted" would have at least been honest
The defence is provided by Wada with their TD.
However it might have been better to say “ Like 99.9 % of the population I have not a clue what I ate for a week or so as long as over a month ago”.
It would have been more believable than the burrito, but you actually have to provide the source to get off. If I had to guess it was probably in a shady supplement and not food. And she didn't want to say that because those supplements might have had all sorts of other banned stuff in them too and might even implicate team mates. If she did admit it was in a suplement, maybe she would have got some leeway, but she would have definitely still been banned for Tokyo. Still would have better to have been honest.
Kevin Beck made the point that ever since Shelby has been caught she has never shut up about it. Lame interview after interview, instagram time trials, grifting for money when she has plenty, and she's still in the pocket of the running media.
I'm so sick of it. She's such a cancer on the sport right now. she just takes away from all the other athletes competing because we are just talking about her. We all know she cheated and lied, and she' still whining that she didn't.
First, it’s just “USADA” not “the USADA.” Look at their website, not once do they refer to themselves as “the USADA” in any publication.
Second, AIU is NOT a doping agency in the traditional sense. They don’t conduct their own tests. They don’t have their own doping control officers (DCOs). Instead, organizations like USADA, Canadian Center for Ethics in Sport (CCES), Clearidium, Professional Worldwide Controls (PWC) and IDTM go out and collect samples from athletes both In-Competition and Out-of-Competition. The samples are sent to WADA approved laboratories (the Untied Sates has two, one in Salt Lake City and the other at UCLA). The results are then reported back to the proper authority, in this case AIU, who is the results management authority.
Interesting to see Tygart taking shots at AIU. He tends to stick to giving it to WADA every chance he gets. But hey, let me grab my popcorn…
Thank you for your valuable contribution about the use of "the", Mr. Pedant.
Leaving that aside, I should know better than expect the morons of LRC (not necessarily you) to see subtlety. I'm not defending Houlihan in the slightest. But I find it interesting that Tygart has raised some questions, and I think Tygart and USADA (look, didn't use "the"!) have plenty of credibility.
But the angry-mob-with-torches goes wild when someone does just that (i.e., raises questions). The idea that USADA is a wildly corrupt organization protecting American athletes because Tygart made these comments is absurd...especially in light of how aggressively they went after Lance, among others. Wake me up when Jamaica's ADA and Ethiopia's ADA go after say, Bolt and Bekele respectively. Hmm, wake me up when those agencies go after anyone of note. Wouldn't happen in a million years.
I am glad he "pedant(ically)" called you (and others..?) on the incorrect " the USADA" because as soon as i saw it I thought " what the hell is this nonsense?"
That's all i got.
Oh, and TT definitely wanted Lance more for the press it would bring him than for doing the right thing/doing his job/cleaning up the sport.
Nice that he's referring to it like some tech startup thats flirting all kinds of laws and picking off customers from the fringes of a big established business. It's not like the AIU was founded by the IAAF is it. What a clown.
Can someone answer me this as a non-American. Why does it seem that the land of capitalism and a place where it seems many people are empowered to just do their own thing also has these huge huge protected monopolies in certain areas? Sports seems to be one (NFL) but this seems another instance where the idea of any sort of competition improving standards is a threat - when in reality they both want the same aim.
Kevin Beck made the point that ever since Shelby has been caught she has never shut up about it. Lame interview after interview, instagram time trials, grifting for money when she has plenty, and she's still in the pocket of the running media.
I'm so sick of it. She's such a cancer on the sport right now. she just takes away from all the other athletes competing because we are just talking about her. We all know she cheated and lied, and she' still whining that she didn't.
Mods! Can you call people Cancers and not get banned?
Saying she is a liar when CAS said she was credible witness and for CAS not to convict her of cheating is one thing but calling people Cancerous is vile and should get them banned.
However it might have been better to say “ Like 99.9 % of the population I have not a clue what I ate for a week or so as long as over a month ago”.
It would have been more believable than the burrito, but you actually have to provide the source to get off. If I had to guess it was probably in a shady supplement and not food. And she didn't want to say that because those supplements might have had all sorts of other banned stuff in them too and might even implicate team mates. If she did admit it was in a suplement, maybe she would have got some leeway, but she would have definitely still been banned for Tokyo. Still would have better to have been honest.
Kevin Beck made the point that ever since Shelby has been caught she has never shut up about it. Lame interview after interview, instagram time trials, grifting for money when she has plenty, and she's still in the pocket of the running media.
I'm so sick of it. She's such a cancer on the sport right now. she just takes away from all the other athletes competing because we are just talking about her. We all know she cheated and lied, and she' still whining that she didn't.
Mods! Can you call people Cancers and not get banned?
Saying she is a liar when CAS said she was credible witness and for CAS not to convict her of cheating is one thing but calling people Cancerous is vile and should get them banned.
Nice that he's referring to it like some tech startup thats flirting all kinds of laws and picking off customers from the fringes of a big established business. It's not like the AIU was founded by the IAAF is it. What a clown.
Can someone answer me this as a non-American. Why does it seem that the land of capitalism and a place where it seems many people are empowered to just do their own thing also has these huge huge protected monopolies in certain areas? Sports seems to be one (NFL) but this seems another instance where the idea of any sort of competition improving standards is a threat - when in reality they both want the same aim.
Mods! Can you call people Cancers and not get banned?
Saying she is a liar when CAS said she was credible witness and for CAS not to convict her of cheating is one thing but calling people Cancerous is vile and should get them banned.
You're so pathetic.
So calling out people who insult others of being a Cancer is pathetic… really!
It would have been more believable than the burrito, but you actually have to provide the source to get off. If I had to guess it was probably in a shady supplement and not food. And she didn't want to say that because those supplements might have had all sorts of other banned stuff in them too and might even implicate team mates. If she did admit it was in a suplement, maybe she would have got some leeway, but she would have definitely still been banned for Tokyo. Still would have better to have been honest.
Do you know all that you ate over a month ago?
Does anyone?
The overwhelming likelihood is that you won't ingest a banned substance from your local takeaway. That was what CAS found - the likelihood of accidental contamination was well against the balance of probabilities. In common parlance, we would call such an excuse flimsy bs. As it was. Like your dumb arguments.
The overwhelming likelihood is that you won't ingest a banned substance from your local takeaway. That was what CAS found - the likelihood of accidental contamination was well against the balance of probabilities. In common parlance, we would call such an excuse flimsy bs. As it was. Like your dumb arguments.
CAS said nothings of the sort; in fact Wada have said the direct opposite. Do read stuff!
Mods : are you allowed to insult others by calling them dumb?
It would have been more believable than the burrito, but you actually have to provide the source to get off. If I had to guess it was probably in a shady supplement and not food. And she didn't want to say that because those supplements might have had all sorts of other banned stuff in them too and might even implicate team mates. If she did admit it was in a suplement, maybe she would have got some leeway, but she would have definitely still been banned for Tokyo. Still would have better to have been honest.
Do you know all that you ate over a month ago?
Does anyone?
If I were a pro athlete that knew I was randomly tested and could have accidentally ingested something banned I sure would. There are apps that do it now using bar codes.
If I were a pro athlete I'd probably go the Tom Brady route and have someone make all my meals. I would also avoid thing like food trucks, sketchy restaurants, and any supplement that could be tainted. Any supplement I did take, and it would just be stuff like probiotics and daily vitamins, no gray area stuff, I'd keep a sample of for future testing.
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