It sucks if you're a Russian tank crewman. They (tanks) are basically portable cremation units.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Cold War warrior2 wrote:

Thread is about tanks. If you were a 17 or 18 year old fighting in Ukraine, it doesn't matter which side, Russia or Ukraine, would you rather by a rifleman/machine gunner in an infantry unit on the ground or would you rather be in a mechanized unit? If you were a 22 or 23 year old lieutenant., same question, infantry on the ground or in a mechanized unit?

I failed to mention in my last post, toe poppers and bouncing betties cannot do damage to a mechanized unit, except damage the tracks, bouncing betty.

I am going to ignore the gist of your text. Have you noticed M.S.M. are no longer saying day in and day out, Russia is losing. Now M.S.M. are saying Russians are mean. I really want this to stop, don't you poster? The only way this stops is for Zelenskyy to surrender.

Anyone who says the Ukrainians are winning is a fool. Without western boots on the ground or air power Russia can camp out in Ukraine forever if they want to.

I was on American tanks and the only thing we feared was air power. Nowadays with these fire and forget anti-tank missiles which can kill from 2500 meters the game has changed. Hopefully, the Pentagon is paying attention in Ukraine and working on neutralizing these missiles and the swarms of cheap drones that offer complete real time battlefield visibility. As well as Ukraine is doing a competent military operating with these tools would be absolutely devastating.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Sledgehammer wrote:

This is absolutely not true. If you knew anything about the ejection system you would realize that this cannot happen. I have served on vehicles with a similar system and it is impossible for the casing to eject into the vehicle. The biggest problem we had with the ejection system was if a misfire occurred. In an Abrams, it is easy to clear. Not an easy task when you don't have a loader.

The casing does not "fly out" either; it falls out onto the floor of an Abrams. With an ejection system, it is expelled from rear of the turret. It if flew out of the breech, our Abrams crews would be at risk.

Russian tanks have an autoloader... They also use 2 piece ammunition like an artillery piece so misfires don't happen.

There's also no casing. They have an aft cap like the Abrams but there's no ignition rod on it so it's smaller. It isn't possible for it to fly around the turret let alone fly around with enough energy to decapitate anyone. It remains in the feed mechanism and the TC has to manually remove it.