NP tonight - Colin Sahlman (1:48.84), Aaron (1:48.91), Leo Young (4:00.77), Lex Young (4:04.68)!!

freekiprop · 2022-03-26T18:06:09-04:00

Anyone have any details about the Newbury park race tonight? Schedule/live results? [i] LRC Note. We changed the title to reflect the results.

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4 years ago 03/27/2022 1:51pm EDT

re: king999

king999 wrote:
Here is what I see/saw. Ahh, Then I see a Mile result as most have posted, my mistake, why they would list like two separate events is beyond me?
BOYS 1600 METER RUN FINALS
PLACE ATHLETE TEAM RESULT WIND H#
Leo Young 11 Newbury Park (SS)3:59.32
Lex Young Newbury Park (SS) 4:03.13
Christopher Caudillo 11 Clovis (CS) 1
Ethan Godsey 12 Agoura (SS) 1
5 Tyler Kaan Santiago Corona (SS)
6 Daniel Appleford Newbury Park (SS) 1
7 Noah Ray Buchanan (CS) 4:11.20
Ethan Florez Canyon Anaheim Hills (SS) 4:11.79

They have two splits 1600 and mile. You only saw the 1600 split. Go

4 years ago 03/27/2022 1:55pm EDT

re: king999

king999 wrote:
The continued adding of scratch times to relay all time marks continues to look as stupid as that 4 x mile prediction. No team running by themself if running 7:22 or 9:30..No way no how.
Also Young did not run the mile..its stupid to post a converted "to" mark he ran the 1600M, thats what he ran

Read this:

finishedresults.trackscoreboard.com

Track Scoreboard

Brian Sparacino

Live Results

Open link

4 years ago 03/27/2022 1:57pm EDT

re: oldoldrunner

oldoldrunner wrote:
king999 wrote:
The continued adding of scratch times to relay all time marks continues to look as stupid as that 4 x mile prediction. No team running by themself if running 7:22 or 9:30..No way no how.
Also Young did not run the mile..its stupid to post a converted "to" mark he ran the 1600M, thats what he ran
Read this:
Link:finishedresults.trackscoreboard.com/me...

I forgot to mention click on blue box next to name and you get mile and 1600 meter times.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 2:32pm EDT

re: Hhhhh

Hhhhh wrote:
Yikes That\'s Fast wrote:
If I was Daniel Appleford I would want to move to a different school in a different area. He's good enough to be state champion in the 1600 and 3200 in many states, but he's not on any of his school's relay teams and he has zero chance at winning even a local county, conference, or league title.
Agreed (in part). Maybe not for Appleford, because he was on a national winning team. He gets to train with top guys. He is getting 100X more exposure than any other 4:12 guys.
However, if you are Zaki Blunt. You are running 4:19.22 for 1600m, but you are only on the junior varsity XC team (as a senior). You don’t even get to go to most meets.
Quickly checked where 4:19.22 would have ranked Blunt (2019 - last real season). (Started with “A”). Alabama (4th), Alaska (4th), Arkansas (2nd)…. Quite a big difference from being junior varsity to being one of the top guys in your State.
It must be hard for the coach to keep him motivated.

And if he just went to another school in the CA Southern Section he would still have only been 43rd in the section and 76th in the state. I guess every 4:20 kid in CA should just move to Arkansas.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 2:39pm EDT

re: Off the coast

Off the coast wrote:
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and then you have “the shoes” which have helped everyone run faster. You can’t compare this era to any previous. Webb was better without a doubt, Ryun even better, South Eugene was better in my opinion. Times are almost irrelevant these days.

I think you are exaggerating a little bit, but..... It seems so odd to me that so many track fans seem willfully oblivious about the indisputable shoe advantage that current runners now have. It's really not that much different than the advantage that state-of-the-art bicycles of today have over heavy Steel bikes of yesteryear or the full-length swimsuits that rewrote swimming record books and then were banned. This is a new technology that simply gives more energy return with each step. It may be a very minor Improvement per step, but added up over hundreds of steps......it adds up to something significant!

4 years ago 03/27/2022 2:41pm EDT

re: Hhhhh

Hhhhh wrote:
Yikes That\'s Fast wrote:
If I was Daniel Appleford I would want to move to a different school in a different area. He's good enough to be state champion in the 1600 and 3200 in many states, but he's not on any of his school's relay teams and he has zero chance at winning even a local county, conference, or league title.
Agreed (in part). Maybe not for Appleford, because he was on a national winning team. He gets to train with top guys. He is getting 100X more exposure than any other 4:12 guys.
However, if you are Zaki Blunt. You are running 4:19.22 for 1600m, but you are only on the junior varsity XC team (as a senior). You don’t even get to go to most meets.
Quickly checked where 4:19.22 would have ranked Blunt (2019 - last real season). (Started with “A”). Alabama (4th), Alaska (4th), Arkansas (2nd)…. Quite a big difference from being junior varsity to being one of the top guys in your State.
It must be hard for the coach to keep him motivated.

If Blunt/Appleford gets a good deal at a good college I'm sure they'll look back on HS fondly, and will probably be glad to have been in Cali rather than Arkansas, where they probably would not have run so fast.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 2:47pm EDT

re: jonesy22

where on ther 11 hour video are those two races

4 years ago 03/27/2022 2:52pm EDT

re: molassas

molassas wrote:
Hhhhh wrote:
Agreed (in part). Maybe not for Appleford, because he was on a national winning team. He gets to train with top guys. He is getting 100X more exposure than any other 4:12 guys.
However, if you are Zaki Blunt. You are running 4:19.22 for 1600m, but you are only on the junior varsity XC team (as a senior). You don’t even get to go to most meets.
Quickly checked where 4:19.22 would have ranked Blunt (2019 - last real season). (Started with “A”). Alabama (4th), Alaska (4th), Arkansas (2nd)…. Quite a big difference from being junior varsity to being one of the top guys in your State.
It must be hard for the coach to keep him motivated.
And if he just went to another school in the CA Southern Section he would still have only been 43rd in the section and 76th in the state. I guess every 4:20 kid in CA should just move to Arkansas.

Not just Arkansas. 4:20 puts you in the top 5 or 10 in many states.

Plus you would be on all your school's relay teams, get to travel to all the meets, and actually win some titles - county, conference, league, whatever.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:10pm EDT

re: Them boys Are Fast

yeah, but for the rest of his life he'll have been on the greatest HS team of all time. That counts for something.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:10pm EDT

re: made bed

NP also had a sub 8:50 kid that ran with Nico and is now a CU Buff.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:16pm EDT

re: Hiney Licker

Some of these posters sound so dumb. If we eliminate 5 of the best HS runners in history, NP is left with only 8:44/8:56/9:00 and a slew of sub 4:20/9:20 over the last 3 years. They would still be a top 5 team in the country without a single kid named Sahlman/Young.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:21pm EDT

re: molassas

molassas wrote:
Hhhhh wrote:
Agreed (in part). Maybe not for Appleford, because he was on a national winning team. He gets to train with top guys. He is getting 100X more exposure than any other 4:12 guys.
However, if you are Zaki Blunt. You are running 4:19.22 for 1600m, but you are only on the junior varsity XC team (as a senior). You don’t even get to go to most meets.
Quickly checked where 4:19.22 would have ranked Blunt (2019 - last real season). (Started with “A”). Alabama (4th), Alaska (4th), Arkansas (2nd)…. Quite a big difference from being junior varsity to being one of the top guys in your State.
It must be hard for the coach to keep him motivated.
And if he just went to another school in the CA Southern Section he would still have only been 43rd in the section and 76th in the state. I guess every 4:20 kid in CA should just move to Arkansas.

Exactly. 76th in the State of California is excellent. There are 3842 High Schools in California. He would be the fastest runner in 98%+ of California HS.

At NP he was on the junior varsity XC team.

So no. 98%+ of sub 4:20 CA kids are the top runner in their schools and 100% of them are on their varsity XC team (except at NP). They don’t have to move anywhere.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:24pm EDT

re: xcfan2233

xcfan2233 wrote:
Some of these posters sound so dumb. If we eliminate 5 of the best HS runners in history, NP is left with only 8:44/8:56/9:00 and a slew of sub 4:20/9:20 over the last 3 years. They would still be a top 5 team in the country without a single kid named Sahlman/Young.

You’re right, some of these posters sound dumb. If you take away those 5, you still have a half dozen kids that were complete studs before they ever showed up to NP. Give the kids the credit they deserve. They’re talented and have worked hard for many years to get to this level, including several years before they ever stepped foot on NP’s campus. Stop hating on these kids and give them the credit they deserve.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:34pm EDT

re: Props to Sahlman bros

Props to Sahlman bros wrote:
xcfan2233 wrote:
Some of these posters sound so dumb. If we eliminate 5 of the best HS runners in history, NP is left with only 8:44/8:56/9:00 and a slew of sub 4:20/9:20 over the last 3 years. They would still be a top 5 team in the country without a single kid named Sahlman/Young.
You’re right, some of these posters sound dumb. If you take away those 5, you still have a half dozen kids that were complete studs before they ever showed up to NP. Give the kids the credit they deserve. They’re talented and have worked hard for many years to get to this level, including several years before they ever stepped foot on NP’s campus. Stop hating on these kids and give them the credit they deserve.

??? Who is hating on the kids? No one is hating on the kids. Why would you even say such a thing? The kids are awesome, everyone loves them. I love them and what they're doing. I also think they have a good coach. Is that hating on the kids? Hate the coach all you want, but if somebody says he's a good coach, that is NOT hating on the kids. Please, get a grip.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:42pm EDT

re: xcfan2233

xcfan2233 wrote:
Some of these posters sound so dumb. If we eliminate 5 of the best HS runners in history, NP is left with only 8:44/8:56/9:00 and a slew of sub 4:20/9:20 over the last 3 years. They would still be a top 5 team in the country without a single kid named Sahlman/Young.

Agreed. NP had their top 7 in before Stumptown and Union Catholic had their 3rd runner in at RL. Stumptown came 3rd and Union Catholic came 4th at RL.

The had all top 7 come in before the first Mustang came in at RL. Mustangs came 5th at RL.

If NP gets to keep at least one of their top 4 (why would they not be allowed to keep at least 1), they would have come close to winning.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 3:45pm EDT

re: Imnotaspy

Imnotaspy wrote:
Props to Sahlman bros wrote:
You’re right, some of these posters sound dumb. If you take away those 5, you still have a half dozen kids that were complete studs before they ever showed up to NP. Give the kids the credit they deserve. They’re talented and have worked hard for many years to get to this level, including several years before they ever stepped foot on NP’s campus. Stop hating on these kids and give them the credit they deserve.
??? Who is hating on the kids? No one is hating on the kids. Why would you even say such a thing? The kids are awesome, everyone loves them. I love them and what they're doing. I also think they have a good coach. Is that hating on the kids? Hate the coach all you want, but if somebody says he's a good coach, that is NOT hating on the kids. Please, get a grip.

Look through this thread. Anytime someone points out the talent in the team, they are labeled a hater by not giving the credit to the coach. The bottom line is, this is by far and away THE most talented, deepest group of runners ever assembled on a team. The coach has done a good job, but is not THE reason for the greatness. The reason is the kids. That’s not hating on the coach. He’s done well, but many others would do just as well with that talent.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 4:01pm EDT

re: Props to Sahlman bros

Props to Sahlman bros wrote:
Imnotaspy wrote:
??? Who is hating on the kids? No one is hating on the kids. Why would you even say such a thing? The kids are awesome, everyone loves them. I love them and what they're doing. I also think they have a good coach. Is that hating on the kids? Hate the coach all you want, but if somebody says he's a good coach, that is NOT hating on the kids. Please, get a grip.
Look through this thread. Anytime someone points out the talent in the team, they are labeled a hater by not giving the credit to the coach. The bottom line is, this is by far and away THE most talented, deepest group of runners ever assembled on a team. The coach has done a good job, but is not THE reason for the greatness. The reason is the kids. That’s not hating on the coach. He’s done well, but many others would do just as well with that talent.

Jace Aschbrenner never ran close to 5min in 8th grade and ran 8:44 for the 3200m his senior year. Nico Young never broke 5min his 8th year and he ran 7:56 indoors for the 3k and was one of the best HS runners ever.

Grow up and move on. We all can see you hate the coach. Yes we understand you don’t like the Newbury Park coach. Stop repeating yourself.

We can all move on now.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 5:31pm EDT

re: Hhhhh

Hhhhh wrote:
xcfan2233 wrote:
Some of these posters sound so dumb. If we eliminate 5 of the best HS runners in history, NP is left with only 8:44/8:56/9:00 and a slew of sub 4:20/9:20 over the last 3 years. They would still be a top 5 team in the country without a single kid named Sahlman/Young.
Agreed. NP had their top 7 in before Stumptown and Union Catholic had their 3rd runner in at RL. Stumptown came 3rd and Union Catholic came 4th at RL.
The had all top 7 come in before the first Mustang came in at RL. Mustangs came 5th at RL.
If NP gets to keep at least one of their top 4 (why would they not be allowed to keep at least 1), they would have come close to winning.

No. Those other guys would not have run as fast if you take the youngs/sahlmans away. The same is true for all the guys that are running 410-420 in CA. If they were in a state like AR, they would only be running in the 420s. The competition is what allows them to run the fast times that they do. If they were in a less competitive environment, they would run slower.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 6:15pm EDT

re: freekiprop

Had Colin S actually sold out for Leo in that mile it looks highly likely Leo would've broke 4:00. Point being Leo is in sub-4 shape in the right race.

4 years ago 03/27/2022 6:43pm EDT

re: made bed

8:56, couldn't make a D1 program?

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