We couldn’t make this up if we tried: Transgender UPenn woman swimmer beaten by transgender man Yale swimmer

Mac Daddy wrote:

You write about humiliations "he claims to suffer" as if you really think he has never suffered any. I read the article and it asserts he was bullied for being gay.

Did you go to high school? You're pretty dense to suggest that gay guys aren't bullied there.

The article was about a bloke who entered and won the NYC Marathon as a "non-binary" runner, not as a gay man. He "identifies as" non-binary and "queer" and claims to have experienced "humiliation" because of his gender identities, not because of his sexual orientation.

While running has helped Harris find clarity, it’s also created some anguish. Most races only allow contestants to enter as “male” or “female,” forcing Harris and other non-binary and trans runners to suffer an unnecessary humiliation.

The article does not mention his sexual orientation. It says only that he is non-binary and "queer." "Queer" today doesn't mean homosexual as it did back in the day when it was a homophobic slur. Human Rights Campaign, the USA's leading "LGBTQ" organization, says queer now means those with "non-binary or gender expansive identities."

Stonewall, the UK counterpart to HRC, defines queer as "a term used by those wanting to reject specific labels of romantic orientation, sexual orientation and/or gender identity. It can also be a way of rejecting the perceived norms of the LGBT community (racism, sizeism, ableism etc)."

Gay means homosexual. Gay men and lesbian women are people who are same-sex attracted. Not same gender or gender-identity attracted. There's actually quite a lot of homophobia at the heart of gender identity ideology, and lots of people who call themselves queer, non-binary and trans today are deeply homophobic. Gender ideology says that being exclusively attracted to one sex or the other is bigoted, "exclusionary" and inherently transphobic. Gender ideologues routinely call anyone who is attracted solely to one sex - gay men, lesbians and heterosexuals - "genital fetishists."

Since you asked, yes I went to HS - a very long time ago. So I know full well that gay guys, and boys and men whom bullies perceive as possibly gay like my own son, are indeed bullied in HS - and in middle school and many other contexts. I'm old enough to have been a member of ACT UP.

I've personally experienced a good deal of homophobic bullying, name-calling and job discrimination myself. I get called a "lezzer" and worse pretty much every week, sometimes more often. Nowadays, women like me are regularly subjected to tons of homophobic abuse by gender identity ideologues of both sexes.

My impression is that most of the people who call themselves "queer" today are straight or bisexual. If Zack Harris is indeed gay as you seem to think, I see his entering the NYC Marathon in the "non-binary" category as a big step backwards, not forwards. Generations of gay men and lesbians fought hard to get straight society to accept and see homosexuals as people like everyone else. Suggesting that same-sex attracted persons are neither female nor male, and thus should be relegated to a separate and distinct sports category entirely apart from the rest of the field, is to "other," ostracize and marginalize gay people all over again.

That still does not change the fact that he was bullied as a "queer" in high school.

Or do you think that was all in his imagination and he was actually not bullied?

I got beat up frequently for being a skinny nerd. How do they solve that in a race today?

Touche. I thought queer meant gay, guess that's different.

Bad Wigins wrote:

RunRagged wrote:

Language evolves over time.

And every organic usage is still either identical with sex, or firmly rooted in the concept. The special usage insisted upon by trans activists is not organic but forced. This is obvious every time they try to make everyone else use it too.

This can be arguably justifiable to eliminate a slur, such as the N-word, but the indelible link between gender and sex is no slur, but a biological fact. Cite any exception you want, its rarity only proves the rule that produced our overwhelmingly common usage.

Enough of the nonsense. If you're a male, you can say you're a female, but you can't make me say it.

Very erudite. But maybe you should stop to consider what makes you so determined to refuse to refer to someone in the way they prefer. What on earth do you gain by being mean about it?

lia thomas doesnt look any more masculine than many elite world class female swimmers at the olympics.in fact id say she'd be indistinguishable.

NCAA has a new policy that takes effect immediately, beginning with the 2022 winter championships. Let's see if Thomas will legally challenge this.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-adopts-policy-transgender-athletes-032130027.html