Wouldn't a centrist win every election?

the macdaddy og yoo wrote:

Liberals are morons.. wrote:

WHAT??? He acted like he was a moderate and now the Squad is telling his diaper wearing @ss what to do...

Bro, you’ve troll posted like 20 times in this thread, and you’re not very good at it.

It’s Friday. Go do something 😂

Bro... maybe try peeing standing up before you worry about what other people do.

So you agree that modern America can revise the Constitution, outside of the intentions of its drafters, as times change.

What are you trying to argue? That those views and conditions were more common makes them acceptable at the time?

Jesse Helms

George Wallace (for the American Independent Party)

All the Dixiecrats

Liberals are morons.. wrote:

In some states it's free. In the most expensive blue states it's less than $5.

When the government gives you THOUSANDS of dollars in free crap every year it's a little ridiculous to try to argue getting the ID that makes you eligible for all the free stuff is a "poll tax".

Read this and tell me that all sounds good to you.

Liberals are morons.. wrote:

You cannot get food stamps or WIC or Medicaid or a bus pass or a million other things without ID.

The voter suppression argument is pure an unadulterated BS.

When was the last time you bought a bus pass?

Liberals are morons.. wrote:

Democrats want no ID and bloated voter rolls specifically so they can cheat.

Why? Their policies are so much more popular they don’t need to.

If you think only white and/or rich people are smart enough to figure out how to get an ID,

you are racist classist or both.

So you agree that modern America can revise the Constitution, outside of the intentions of its drafters, as times change.

Where in the constitution did it say minorities and women couldn't vote?

What are you trying to argue? That those views and conditions were more common makes them acceptable at the time?

When they've literally been the norm for all of human history up until that time... yes to a person living then would consider those views to be perfectly acceptable.

[quote]Liberals are morons.. wrote:

Jesse Helms

George Wallace (for the American Independent Party)

All the Dixiecrats

Jesse Helms? lol...

George Wallace ran 3rd party in 1968 and then returned to the Democrats even running for president as a Democrat in 1976 and came in 3rd despite being openly racist... Try again.

The Dixiecrats all died proud Democrats.

OozmaKappa wrote:

If you think only white and/or rich people are smart enough to figure out how to get an ID,

you are racist classist or both.

Was that your takeaway from the article?

Jeff Wigand wrote:

OozmaKappa wrote:

If you think only white and/or rich people are smart enough to figure out how to get an ID,

you are racist classist or both.

Was that your takeaway from the article?

It's a propaganda piece designed specifically to manipulate morons...

Leftists do the same thing with abortion.

They pick the rarest of all possible scenarios and then convince morons it's the norm.

Most centrists are those who are usually easily manipulated to sway one way or the other. We don't need Centrist. We need desicive leaders. We need desicive voters. Anything less is dumb and bought and paid for.

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 made it clear that enslaved persons didn’t count for full representation.

Why did the 13th, 14th and 19th Amendments get ratified if they weren’t necessary to secure the rights for people left out of the Constitution when it was first written?

Laws written in slave states purposely grouped all free Black people with slaves for restricting rights.

What changed?

You agree that it’s good and necessary to revise our understanding of the Constitution with the changing times.

Is Strom Thurmond not dead? Do white southerners vote lock in step with Democrats? If not, did that change before or after the integration of the armed forces and the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Liberals are morons.. wrote:

It's a propaganda piece designed specifically to manipulate morons...

Do you have any actual counter points to challenge the facts presented? Or do you just want to lazily suggest that such cases are rare and thus acceptable?

Liberals are morons.. wrote:

Leftists do the same thing with abortion.

None that I know. It’s a pretty cut and dry issue.

Liberals are morons.. wrote:

They pick the rarest of all possible scenarios and then convince morons it's the norm.

Or rather that rights are to be preserved, no matter how rare the circumstances.

You do realize there are a lot of moderates, right? In a state like AZ it's hard to win a senate seat unless you are a moderate. As stated above, John McCain was a classic moderate. Both of AZ's current senators are technically democrats, but are very moderate and often break with the party. In fact Manchin, a moderate democrat is the only reason Biden's signature piece of legislation didn't pass. This is of course less true for the house, but holds true for the presidency and Senate very often.

runnER/DR wrote:

John McCain was a classic moderate. Both of AZ's current senators are technically democrats, but are very moderate and often break with the party..

"Moderate" is not the imaginary position separating two halves of the same turd. The turd is continuous.

McCain was a warmonger and general all-around sleazeball. A play-both-sideser, acting out a role for his own gain. Don't forget rich these creatures get.

about that... wrote:

Ask John McCain.

Ask Joe Biden, who seems to have forgotten the reason that he won was by being the most moderate choice.

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 made it clear that enslaved persons didn’t count for full representation.

Why did the 13th, 14th and 19th Amendments get ratified if they weren’t necessary to secure the rights for people left out of the Constitution when it was first written?

The constitution was written to allow amendments specifically to address these issues. The constitution did not exclude anyone by race or gender in its text.

Laws written in slave states purposely grouped all free Black people with slaves for restricting rights.

Yes and Democrats continued to do this until the 1960s when they found a new way to exploit black people.

What changed?

Why did the Romans think it was fun to let animals maul prisoners to death in front of cheering crowds and the founders didn't? What's considered acceptable changes over time. Joe Biden was against gay marriage for 70 years before he was for it.

You agree that it’s good and necessary to revise our understanding of the Constitution with the changing times.

It says what it says and it's worked better than any other founding document for 200+ years.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Is Strom Thurmond not dead? Do white southerners vote lock in step with Democrats? If not, did that change before or after the integration of the armed forces and the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

You claim an entire political party just switched sides one day yet you can only come up with 2 names...

The only group in the entire country that votes in lock step with anyone is African-Americans and they do so directly against their own best interest.

Do you have any actual counter points to challenge the facts presented? Or do you just want to lazily suggest that such cases are rare and thus acceptable?

Remote and and completely uncommon problems are not a valid reason not to have to prove your identity before you vote. I'm all for making it easier and free to get an ID.

None that I know. It’s a pretty cut and dry issue.

If you ask an activist 99% of all abortions are for rape or incest while the overwhelming majority of them are done out of pure convenience.

Or rather that rights are to be preserved, no matter how rare the circumstances.

Unless those circumstances involve being unborn of course... then you have no rights at all.

Only liberals are arrogant enough to condemn every one in history that came before them and think "Thank God we came along and finally got it all figured out!"

Imagine that each day an ant carries a grain of rice into Times Square and leaves it there. However long it takes for that ant to fill all of Manhattan with rice, that is how long it will be until centrists are winning elections.

This thread is the perfect demonstration. The arguments occurring here have no bearing on anything. It is an imaginary battlefield where people rush in to harass and embarrass and shame the other side.

We the people have been trained to cultivate outrage, grievance, and resentment, because when our brains are in those states it is very easy to manipulate us. The people you see in this thread are a great example. Everyone jumping onto the battlefield and drawing swords, convinced that they are fighting against the extremism on the other side.

We are living through a war of trolls.

So anyways, I disagree with you that a centrist would win every election. I think even the idea of a ‘centrist’ assumes a war of two sides, in which case the true centrist has already lost.

A smart technique for a ‘centrist’ candidate would be to cast both D and R as essentially the same in their despicability, and then define themselves as the reasonable alternative to the extremes of both parties.