This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Again, vaers is getting reports of an immeasurably higher amount of adverse effects and deaths than all vaccines put together so far. Instead of alarm bells ringing the CDC is saying they "will continue to investigate"
Do you not see a problem?
I'm sure you also know by now that the CDC, which cares so much about us, has decided that unlike all other vaccines it will not count as a death if the person dies within 14 days of injection. It's just sick.
Happy new year for everyone!
If you want to understand the background of this Pandemie, Robert Malone had some excellent points on the Joe Rogan Podcast. Of course the YT censors had taken down the video, which means that he touched some painful spots there. You can hear it on Spotify, its a must on this topic. Do it now folks.
Can we have a one and only testing thread? Should we? The situation Looks absurd. Why did Psaki backtrack just to not deliver? Should have held her ground. You don't know how lucky you are boy, Back in the USSR.
Allen the guy wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
The site logs reports, and makes no judgement or decision at to whether or not the reports are credible or legitimate. Reports may be from the general public.
From their site: "VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. "
So exactly what are you trying to say? That we should completely ignore vaers now when it comes to covid vaccine issues?? The same vaers we used for years to determine the danger of vaxxes?
Vaers is required by law to report truthful reports. Something that CDC and who have had trouble with historically, especially recently.
Vaers is actually the closest thing we have to understanding the gravity of the situation and you're trying to sweep it under the rug?
VAERS is about as reliable as an online political poll.
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
So what's the credible source for looking up vaccine adverse reactions then?
There is none. VAERS "requires" reporting of adverse events, but some studies believe it's off by a factor of 20x. I've posted several times on LetsRun how VAERS is "required" to post all-cause deaths among the vaccinated, but a simple actuarial analysis of the age 80+ cohort shows that roughly 250,000 vaccinated seniors have died from all causes since they were vaccinated.
I can post the actuarial analysis again, but it's pretty simple. Annual mortality in the Age 80+ cohort is 5%. The Age 80 population is 12.5 million. About 80% have been vaccinated by 1July2021 or sooner. That's 10 million vaccinated age 80+ seniors by 1 July 2021. It's been six months since 1 July 2021, so that's one-half of the annual mortality rate of 5% or 2.5%. So, 10,000,000 x 2.5% = 250,000.
Oh, and the Age 70-79 cohort would add another couple of hundred thousand all-cause deaths that VAERS is "required" to report.
It's obvious that VAERS is underreporting deaths. We just don't know how bad it is underreporting them.
Two years into it and now you are finally attempting to consolidate the threads?
Well, finally.
wejo wrote:
It's a New Year and it's time to consolidate some of the covid threads. We've deleted hundreds of them but it just makes more sense to be official about consolidation. So this thread is for anything related to the Covid vaccine. If you start other threads related to the vaccine they will be deleted or merged with this one. If there is a reason you believe something deserves it's own thread, please email before starting the thread. And use the "report a post" function to report objectionable posts or posts where people insult one another.FYI: Also a reminder that none of the Covid threads on letsrun are indexed by google.
A laudable and timely move.
Whoa everyone!!!!
Wow, let's just chill out!!
Go see your bud tender and get an ounce of their finest Sativa!!
Enjoy!!
Yet, there are still other Covid-vaccine threads up. They seem to spread like a virus.
Armstronglivs wrote:
wejo wrote:
It's a New Year and it's time to consolidate some of the covid threads. We've deleted hundreds of them but it just makes more sense to be official about consolidation. So this thread is for anything related to the Covid vaccine. If you start other threads related to the vaccine they will be deleted or merged with this one. If there is a reason you believe something deserves it's own thread, please email before starting the thread. And use the "report a post" function to report objectionable posts or posts where people insult one another.FYI: Also a reminder that none of the Covid threads on letsrun are indexed by google.
A laudable and timely move.
Yes it is. The chat board became ugly and needed this consolidation.
carmine9 wrote:
Just another clown wrote:
Sadly Jud Logan has died of complications of COVID-19. Someone else has a thread about him. I had never heard of him but he made 4 Olympic teams as a hammer throw contestant. Too many have died.
No cause of death given.
Was he fully vaxxed?
Cause of death was given. COVID-caused pneumonia. I do not know if he was vaccinated at all.
carmine9 wrote:
Just another clown wrote:
Jud Logan died of complications of COVID-19. No need to try to lie about this. Please let the man Rest In Peace.
You seem to know more than anyone else.
Was he vaccinated?
No, he knows more than you, which isn't tough to do.
Rainy Day wrote:
Good to consolidate. Seems like the majority are anti-vax or vaccine for all. There should be a middle ground.
It appears the risk of the vaccine may be greater than the risk of COVID for healthy teen boys. Both risks are extremely small, but why guarantee an outcome by vaccinating a 13 year old 90 pound kid?
If you don’t question the universal vaccine push, including for young children, with the financial windfall to the drug companies, then you’re just as brainwashed as the anti-vax crowd that think the vaccine is fake. I’ve been in business a long time, and public drug companies are absolutely looking to increase the market for their product. Doesn’t mean it’s fake or harmful, but it’s certainly a moral hazard.
I think it is worth the risk for the majority of society. I got vaccinated and then got COVID, neither was a terrible outcome for me.
You are wrong about the risk of the vaccine for healthy teen boys. Risk of death still exists, but the long-term negative health effects are a real problem. Organ damage, chronic fatigue, etc. I personally know one "healthy teen boy" who wasn't vaxxed, got COVID and had to have part of one of his lungs removed. He's a distance runner who was headed to a D1 school, so who knows what the future holds for him now. You do not want to get COVID. Omicron is not as bad, but the other variants are still out there. Right now, getting vaccinated is the best thing to do.
You got COVID after being vaccinated. Not a problem for you because you were vaccinated.
So this "herd immunity" thing will come from the Omicron variant of Covid-19 and not from a "vaccine".
Interesting.
Mr. Expert is here again. Lookout!
You understand that most 80+ yo people have a verifiable cause of death right? If "all" deaths were reported to vaers, it would be truly worthless.. with nearly everyone vaccinated, right? Every death would be reported.
"Well , that's what they're supposed to do" says Mr. Expert!
Then what, you think someone is going to investigate every death like its NCIS? Doctors, ME's etc know how to determine causes of death.
The fact is that vaccine event reporting guidelines are generally time guidance limited (7 days, 2 weeks, its varies by event and vaccine a little). Deaths are generally reported if they occur subsequent to one of the specifics (an allergic reaction, syncope, etc that might vary by vaccine, a few do have odd side effects). Deaths of people 3 moths or 3 years after a tetanus booster are not reported, sorry.
The notion that ALL deaths would be reported is laughable since the lady at costco or a school or wherever, jabbing arms, is not in consultation with the the recipients doctor (if any) or the coroner or doctor signing the death certificate. By your logic a passenger crushed in a car crash with vaccine card in his wallet should be reported to vaers by the doctor who declared him dead?
So therefore, per "Mr. Expert" I hereby declare that all deaths of vaccinated people (ie most people) are hereby in the vaers database.
Now, how does that change anything?
Doctors report cases they *know about* and have a *plausible connection* to vaccination.
Hooma wrote:
Rainy Day wrote:
Good to consolidate. Seems like the majority are anti-vax or vaccine for all. There should be a middle ground.
It appears the risk of the vaccine may be greater than the risk of COVID for healthy teen boys. Both risks are extremely small, but why guarantee an outcome by vaccinating a 13 year old 90 pound kid?
If you don’t question the universal vaccine push, including for young children, with the financial windfall to the drug companies, then you’re just as brainwashed as the anti-vax crowd that think the vaccine is fake. I’ve been in business a long time, and public drug companies are absolutely looking to increase the market for their product. Doesn’t mean it’s fake or harmful, but it’s certainly a moral hazard.
I think it is worth the risk for the majority of society. I got vaccinated and then got COVID, neither was a terrible outcome for me.
You are wrong about the risk of the vaccine for healthy teen boys. Risk of death still exists, but the long-term negative health effects are a real problem. Organ damage, chronic fatigue, etc. I personally know one "healthy teen boy" who wasn't vaxxed, got COVID and had to have part of one of his lungs removed. He's a distance runner who was headed to a D1 school, so who knows what the future holds for him now. You do not want to get COVID. Omicron is not as bad, but the other variants are still out there. Right now, getting vaccinated is the best thing to do.
You got COVID after being vaccinated. Not a problem for you because you were vaccinated.
Lying again; post the report on this novel incident if it is true or you are just making stuff up.
The real data vaccine compensation claims made and claims paid.
Very few have even been filed. And you have 1 year I think. Tick-Tock!
No cause was given, but Logan had been undergoing chemotherapy treatments for Leukemia since 2019, hmm sounds like covid all right....
OMG, there’s the grifter again. Pay him no mind. Censor him. Don’t even dare entertain that he may very well be correct.
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