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>get home from work , your daughter gets home from first day of school
>”mom there’s a girl on the team with me that’s actually a boy and he’s a year younger!”
>mfw your daughter now has a training partner
>and they’re on the SAME team
>mfw your daughter might not get medals, but she has both a training partner AND a reason to run on pure hate
What’s to complain about?
calfshrug wrote:
>get home from work , your daughter gets home from first day of school
>”mom there’s a girl on the team with me that’s actually a boy and he’s a year younger!”
>mfw your daughter now has a training partner
>and they’re on the SAME team
>mfw your daughter might not get medals, but she has both a training partner AND a reason to run on pure hate
What’s to complain about?
To compete the child will need to have T levels below a certain mark. That will curb the ability of the child. Besides their performance shouldn’t affect anyone’s daughter’s’ performance.
Be lucky your son isn't dating a gay trans women in a mixed sexual orientation relationship.
My son came home with his boyfriend this week. Say he is nonbinary gay male and he is dating a non-cis trans female. So his boyfriend may look like a women but comes over dressing in "mens" clothes.
It was a little confusing to my husband and I at first but it could be worse. I'm just glad he is going to college for biology and not starting his career like she wanted in virtual pornographic beastiality cyborg sex studies. She thinks there is lots fo career potential as humans are pairing with virtual partners more and the growth over the next 20 years is like 10 billion or so - but I'm happy were sticking with he bio degree.
Most states allow boys to compete as girls.
rwoutdoors wrote:
This young man is a boy. Has been since kindergarten until this year. Apparently something has changed. I don't know what is going in the school. Is he identifying as a female and all that nonsense? So far no one in administration will discuss it.
What a joke. This kid has terrible parents.
Be mad or whatever but try to at least be half respectful. It sounds like you don't know the full situation and might not for a little while. Use their correct labels or use gender neutral ones if you don't have a clue. There are plenty of opportunities for women to run in college. This child isn't going to be the difference of your kid getting into a good college or becoming a professional runner. Also maybe take a temperature check on how the kids on the team feel about the situation. I mean, they're all socialized by people like you but I bet they're still 1000 times better at this stuff than the loudest adults in the room. Take a step back. Breathe. And stop acting like the world is coming to an end.
Hi there wrote:
calfshrug wrote:
>get home from work , your daughter gets home from first day of school
>”mom there’s a girl on the team with me that’s actually a boy and he’s a year younger!”
>mfw your daughter now has a training partner
>and they’re on the SAME team
>mfw your daughter might not get medals, but she has both a training partner AND a reason to run on pure hate
What’s to complain about?
To compete the child will need to have T levels below a certain mark. That will curb the ability of the child. Besides their performance shouldn’t affect anyone’s daughter’s’ performance.
You might want to do a tiny bit of research before posting. No state does any testing for T levels and it would be bizarre world to test middleschoolers.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Hi there wrote:
To compete the child will need to have T levels below a certain mark. That will curb the ability of the child. Besides their performance shouldn’t affect anyone’s daughter’s’ performance.
You might want to do a tiny bit of research before posting. No state does any testing for T levels and it would be bizarre world to test middleschoolers.
No kidding. I am assuming it’s a non issue until significant competition. Middle school and even high school are not significant enough. No money is being lost and someone’s daughter, if any good, will only get pushed by the transgendered athlete. When the time comes and if they are good enough, they will then need to have their T checked
Doubtful. If a girl goes to college, who will check her?
coach wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Holly came from Miami, F.L.A.
Hitch-hiked her way across the U.S.A.
Plucked her eyebrows on the way
Shaved her legs and then he was a she
She says, "Hey, babe,
Take a walk on the wild side."
Said, "Hey, honey,
Take a walk on the wild side."
Lou was always ahead of his time.
The first line of the chorus would indicate otherwise.
big bop wrote:
Doubtful. If a girl goes to college, who will check her?
A doctor at the request of the coach. It's also likely a call to the runner's HS Coach would clear up any confusion.
chickenpants wrote:
The child should not be competing in the girls race due to the competitive advantage they have. If the child wants to identify as a different gender than what they were born, then that’s fine. However, their choice should not negatively impact others. Now if the child has gone through hormone therapy, then that is a different story.
"Hormone therapy" for the distressed, gender-focused and confused children of this age who are unfortunately being labelled "trans" these days would mean GnRH agonists like Lupron (the cancer drugs now used off-label to block maturation in kids rebranded as "puberty blockers") and - in the case of males - exogenous estrogen as well. In the US, today boys unhappy with their sex/gender are being put on GnRH agonists at 9-11; girls as early as 8. Once on the GnRH agonists, males start estrogen at 11-12. Jazz Jennings began both "puberty blockers" and estrogen at 11.
But even when male children who say they "identify as" the opposite sex are put on these drugs this early, it won't remove all the physical advantages they have over females that make a difference in sports. USATF youth records, and the records of other youth sports, all show that males consistently outperform females in all events starting in the youngest age bracket for which records are kept - which is age 7-8. The data from the USA's Presidents Physical Fitness tests that many American school kids age 6-16 used to take in the 1950s-70s shows the same.
Part of the reason is probably the physical changes that occur, or are set in motion, during the 5-month long male "mini puberty of infancy" that occurs in the first six months after birth. Starting about 4 weeks after birth through the 6th month, baby boys have T levels as high as their T levels will be in the puberty of adolescence. This causes males right off the bat to develop physical characteristics that give them a significant edge over female children in most sports - such as more lean mass, larger and more powerful lungs and hearts that lead to greater cardiovascular capacity and much higher hemoglobin levels, greater bone density, more muscle, faster twitch fibers and so on. During the puberty of adolescence, male hearts grow so they are 25-38% larger than the hearts of females of the same height; but many years before that, the all-important left ventricle in boys is already be 6-8% larger and more powerful than in girls.
That's how it is across the board: the physical advantages males have over females that matter in sports become enormous, innumerable and unmistakable during and after the puberty of adolescence - but boys still have marked advantages before the puberty of adolescence.
Also, by the time a boy is in 8th grade, he probably will already be in the puberty of adolescence since most boys begin puberty around age 12 - and many start as early as 10.
Welcome to Nutbag Land, aka 2021 USA.
No. I have 2 daughters running D1. They have never been asked in high school or college what sex they were born as. A high school coach would be fired on the spot if he told a college coach that a female former runner of his may have once had male sex organs. He had no way to know that nor does the college coach. There are many children who have been raised as females. Sometimes it is because the parents wanted a daughter. Sometimes it is due to a botched circumcision. Sometimes it is because the 5 years old kid wanted to be female. Some of the situations resulted in no surgery while others did. You are always on the incorrect side of the facts.
big bop wrote:
No. I have 2 daughters running D1. They have never been asked in high school or college what sex they were born as. A high school coach would be fired on the spot if he told a college coach that a female former runner of his may have once had male sex organs. He had no way to know that nor does the college coach. There are many children who have been raised as females. Sometimes it is because the parents wanted a daughter. Sometimes it is due to a botched circumcision. Sometimes it is because the 5 years old kid wanted to be female. Some of the situations resulted in no surgery while others did. You are always on the incorrect side of the facts.
You're examples, like a botched circumcision, are extreme outliers, the one about the parents wanting a female is nonsense and a HS kid being castrated seems unlikely.
This thread is about a boy wanting to run in the girls race and the story would be common knowledge among the coaches in the district. Telling the truth about a runner's eligibility to run in college will not get anyone fired. Allowing an ineligible athlete to compete can lead to forfeits and a school has a right to confirm gender.
Occam wrote:
LOL...you are actually believing this made up story. No way this real. This is in line with the high school boys on Letsrun making up stories to seem relevant that are inline with Rojo's views.
That’s what I was thinking.
big bop wrote:
No. I have 2 daughters running D1. They have never been asked in high school or college what sex they were born as. A high school coach would be fired on the spot if he told a college coach that a female former runner of his may have once had male sex organs. He had no way to know that nor does the college coach. There are many children who have been raised as females. Sometimes it is because the parents wanted a daughter. Sometimes it is due to a botched circumcision. Sometimes it is because the 5 years old kid wanted to be female. Some of the situations resulted in no surgery while others did. You are always on the incorrect side of the facts.
This is really sad. “Parents wanting a daughter, 5 years old, circumcision”. !?? Please look up gender dysphoria. People don’t change genders for the fun of it
Star wrote:
Occam wrote:
LOL...you are actually believing this made up story. No way this real. This is in line with the high school boys on Letsrun making up stories to seem relevant that are inline with Rojo's views.
That’s what I was thinking.
If you find anything in the OPs story incredible youre not paying attention. Thats the clown world we live in.
OozmaKappa wrote:
Star wrote:
That’s what I was thinking.
If you find anything in the OPs story incredible youre not paying attention. Thats the clown world we live in.
The medals being awarded for an early season middle school meet,including using a podium, is incredible. Has a podium ever been used in any school XC meet?
The rules regarding transgender athletes are statewide so it wouldn't be up to the coach or the prinsapool whether the kid could run with the girls. If the state didn't allow it, he wouldn't have been in the race.