This dude knocked over all the water bottles in the men’s marathon

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Shaming of french people nothing new for americans. They even claim freedom fries to be their invention. Before we ban him WE should ban all americans for being part of a warmongerin country that murders countless people with drones

Despite calls for it here and elsewhere, a ban, sanction, or even DQ is never going to happen.

His punishment is disdain and, perhaps, ostracization from those seeing his plowing a row of water bottles as a D-Bag move.

waterlover wrote:

https://m.republicworld.com/sports-news/other-sports/tokyo-olympics-french-runner-knocks-over-water-bottles-runs-off-with-last-one-watch.html

He has got a name. Say his name, and say it in the thread title. The more often his name is mentioned the more often his actions will show up in Google searches. Now say his name.

Ghost1 wrote:

llort_vbo wrote:

C’mon ghost, denying competitors water in those conditions is tantamount to assault. I think the iaaf should give his career a cig and blindfold and take him out back.

You are absolutely right, but the reports show that there was another table and even on the same table there were identical small bottle so water was available. Had he done that with absolutely no water available - you’re absolutely right and I agree with you - but this was not the case.

Only knocking over 50% of the water bottles instead of 100% makes it OK?

Ernest wrote:

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Only knocking over 50% of the water bottles instead of 100% makes it OK?

No, Ernest, not OK, but rather more likely "accidental" rather than "intentional".

That's the real question here you see!

Here is some more background which you conveniently disregarded:

I was wrong wrote:

henryr wrote:

I completely agree. Running in a group, super hot, very fast, he isn’t close to the table. We have all seen runners in pro marathons not managing to pick up bottles.

Here is the proof

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=saunzCkbugU

Stop the damn shaming

Ok, I have to admit, after watching the video above that I rushed to judgement. His hand is clearly opening and closing trying to grab bottles. He’s not just smacking them off the table.

Yes, he tries to grab one of the first bottles, then a bottle in the middle and then he succeeds in taking the last bottle. Clumsy but understandable at this pace.

I believe he's a doper though.

RunningPatrol wrote:

Ernest wrote:

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Only knocking over 50% of the water bottles instead of 100% makes it OK?

No, Ernest, not OK, but rather more likely "accidental" rather than "intentional".

That's the real question here you see!

So the bar for it being "likely intentional" seems to be wiping out two tables instead of one...

From the shadows wrote:

Ghost1, you always back up the same kind of people, so for most of us you are biased 100% to the point of seeming naive.

If you like the sport, you like all the outstanding athletes, not just the ones which are close to you in terms of ethnicity or country.

I agree with you and I acknowledge what you say is true. Most of us are biased in someway and that’s an incontrovertible fact. I have lived and worked with people like Amdouni, et al., so I understand where they’re coming from literally and figuratively and this probably gives me more empathy than people who have never been in that environment.

Once again I’m not condoning what he did and I’m not sure we’ll ever get to the bottom of it because he’s not even mentioned it at all and the French press are going to let it go.

My main point is that I was somewhat shocked when I saw a few posters right that they advocated a lifetime ban for what he did which I think it’s seriously over the top and unjustified. People are forgetting that he is an Internet runner who has served France well despite the controversy.

On a personal level, I think he was frustrated not to be up with the leaders once he started letting them go after the 30 km point because I think he expected in his heart of hearts to be a contender for a medal especially after his brilliant performance last autumn in the world half marathon championships in Poland when he ran 59 minutes.

Typo:” saw a few posters right ”

Correct:”saw a few posters write” etc...,

Ernest wrote:

RunningPatrol wrote:

No, Ernest, not OK, but rather more likely "accidental" rather than "intentional".

That's the real question here you see!

So the bar for it being "likely intentional" seems to be wiping out two tables instead of one...

Again, Rupp did the same thing. I thought it was weird when I saw it. I thought he was mad at the table or something. So must just be a weird thing that happens at 430 pace. I dont know. Probably not intentional but a little lazy. They must just know that there are unlimited bottles that go right back up?

Typos: “ what he did which I think it’s seriously over the top and unjustified. People are forgetting that he is an Internet runner who has served France well despite the controversy”

Correction:” what he did which I think is seriously over the top and unjustified. People are forgetting that he is an international runner who has served France well despite the controversy.”

Ernest wrote:

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Shaming of french people nothing new for americans. They even claim freedom fries to be their invention. Before we ban him WE should ban all americans for being part of a warmongerin country that murders countless people with drones

Despite calls for it here and elsewhere, a ban, sanction, or even DQ is never going to happen.

His punishment is disdain and, perhaps, ostracization from those seeing his plowing a row of water bottles as a D-Bag move.

Are you still here? Watch carefully see what really happened.

..was that table the ONLY water table? Don't ALL the Olympic Runner's have their own 'Special Hydration Bottles' marked? Were these men even in Medal contention at this point? Quick remedy, run in front of this Turkey next time!

Dude high fives an entire 40ft table of water. There is no way this was by accident.

Ok, I’ve got the time to post now.

Here is a better quality video.

https://youtu.be/Rb97ws0teZc

The end of the video also shows how close together the bottles are when they have the profile shot of Stephen Mokoka from RSA.

Morhad Amdouni was not the only one to miss a bottle during the marathon, or even to knock multiple bottles off of the table. The following clips are for those who think it’s a piece of cake to grab bottles off a table.

Here is Dieter Kersten from Belgium. He is unable to grab his own bottle on a table, surrounded by nothing else. This is 14:55 into the marathon.

https://youtu.be/LQMHkYPSsFI

At 34:47, Jorge Blanco of Panama can't grab 1 bottle on its own. Also a good view of how quickly they are moving past the bottles.

https://youtu.be/LngRNe7Y2Qo

At 1:12:57, Belgian runner and eventual Bronze medalist Bashir Abdi knocks over 6 bottles from the first table. He tries to grab a bottle in the middle of the table, then again tries to grab one of the last bottles on the table, and knocks the rest of them off. I don't think he got a bottle from that table at all.

https://youtu.be/T1pLUuE2WmU

I found these clips after only a few minutes of quickly scanning through the marathon, I’m sure there are others.

Nice work Jaguartron. Still haters gonna hate, but some people will understand.

epo shassan wrote:

Dude high fives an entire 40ft table of water. There is no way this was by accident.

I know the distance you posted is an intentional exaggeration, but Kipchoge has an average stride distance of 1.9m, and he takes about 4 strides to cover the distance of the table. This means the tables are about 7.6 meters long. There are 24 bottles on the table to begin. That means that the bottles have approximately 32cm (12.6 inches) of distance between the center of each water bottle.

If we assume an average water bottle width of 6.3 cm (2.5 inches), we get approximately 26cm, or 10.1 inches between the sides of the water bottles (i.e., empty space between each bottle). They aren't as close together as I had originally thought, and makes the "intentional" explanation slightly more plausible, but I am nowhere near convinced.

Regardless, these bottles should have been spaced WAY further apart, especially at this point when the rest of the field is so strung out.

Props for putting together those video clips. Just needed a PowerPoint presentation.

Unfortunately, the clips show nothing at all, or runners trying to grab a towel and bottle at the same time... etc.

Nothing like anyone plowing down an entire table.

A few hours ago, Amdouni posted a "Sorry but not sorry" video...

https://9gag.com/gag/aWjyY2q

Good work Jaguartron. We have all seen these things happen on occasion in marathons, even to the point of runners actually interfering with other runners or knocking down designated bottles of other competitors. But Amdouni really takes the cake...I have never witnessed such a maneuver in 50 years as a competitor, coach and a fan.