Emma Coburn jogs it in

Everyone saying something to the order of "I am ashamed reading the comments etc"? why? You can't be objective?

This was a collapse and underperformance vs expectations. This is an objective take. The consensus was that she would vie for Gold and at least a medal. This is a massive underperformance vs expectations (up there with Murphy for biggest flops relative to expectations), this isn't debatable and it's fair to critique someone for that, especially when it's the most important race of someone's life. I don't understand this notion that we need to celebrate underperformance as an "off day" for an athlete when that doesn't apply to the rest of the world. Most jobs have consequences (including critiques) when there is underperformance. Personal attacks (like talking about her looks or personality) are unfair and uncalled for, but im sorry that actual performance was a bust. I hope she is able to rally back in 3 years.

rhimby wrote:

te5n1k wrote:

i remember watching some training vids with her and she seemed pretty difficult. everyone can act nice for instagram or when things are going well. i actually respect someone like chelimo much more. even if he is a dick he is funny and owns it. much worse when people are fake (not accusing emma of this entirely since i dont know her personally).

Chelimo is hilarious. Just watch this video where Coburn accuses Chepkoech of doping. She clearly has a huge ego, and can't stand anyone else being better than her. She also seems annoyed that Frerichs now has the AR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9L9aGfXpRU

What do you want her to say about losing the AR? Her answer was perfectly fine and classy.

Good for her accusing a likely doper of being a doper.

callout wrote:

Tactical-less wrote:

I think most runners themselves think they're a bunch of jack-offs.

In watching all the events it appears to me the T&F athletes with the most camaraderie, sportsmanship and personality are the field events.

feels very true this olympics sadly though I feel like the 800 women and 400h women have great personalities and relationships

looks like mu and rodgers really have bonded and are friendly with each other which I love to see

But they're teammates. I've seen in the field events athletes from different countries not only clapping for each other during their run ups but celebrating for them when they make a great throw or clear a height.

The most obvious thing is the hate the two high jumpers on here got for deciding to share the gold medal. I guess Americans are so desperate for a distance runner who can win they're willing to overlook the worst just so they can crow about it.

Dont Understand how saying Emma flopped is being overly harsh wrote:

This is a massive underperformance vs expectations (up there with Murphy for biggest flops relative to expectations), this isn't debatable and it's fair to critique someone for that, especially when it's the most important race of someone's life.

It sems Coburn agrees with you:

"For me to come here and be physically really prepared and to suck like I did is not what my 20 closest friends and family have done for (me) the last five years.”

“It sucks to suck on the biggest stage."

“Today is the day that makes the whole thing (crappy). Not my life, not my career, but it makes the journey (crappy)."

"It’s a long way to travel and a lot of COVID hoops to jump through. There are a lot of Team USA staffers that bend over backwards to make sure we’re healthy and taken care of. There are a lot of Team USA athletes that are winning medals.”

These forums are a train wreck I cannot look away from. It is one thing to speculate on what Coburn did wrong in the lead-up to the race, but deconstructing three year old interview videos to find "excuses" she made for a bad performance today is one of the most laughably pathetic things I have ever seen on the internet. Only slightly behind are the numerous posts that (i) suggest she "didn't try" after cooking herself badly enough to hit a hurdle and DQ herself; and (ii) imply she gets attention because she's blonde and pretty (never mind the WC, Olympic bronze, and World bronze she has earned).

Emma Coburn fully owned her bad performance, which is more than can be said for those in this thread who have failed so miserably in life that they have to try drag others down to feel better about their own pitiful existence.

Well said

bravo

yikes brah wrote:

This place really is the gas station bathroom of the Internet.

Do you ever read twitter and facebook posts? Internet forums of all the other pro sports? You really can't single this place out.

joed|rty wrote:

Harold #1 wrote:

Coburn is a great runner. Just wasn't her day.

She gave a great interview and this is a great article:

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/08/04/emma-coburn-tokyo-olympic-steeplechase-kiszla/

Brutally honest and takes ownership of her failure. Gotta love Emma.

Great article. Kudos to her!

Not that I am anybody important, but I also thought the trip to Europe was a bit much. Might have worked against her? Anyway, I like this article and really agree with it, even as someone who works in mental health.

te5n1k wrote:

fish man wrote:

Covid from Sam Kendricks??

first thing i thought tbh.

Wait, what??

Tactical-less wrote:

callout wrote:

feels very true this olympics sadly though I feel like the 800 women and 400h women have great personalities and relationships

looks like mu and rodgers really have bonded and are friendly with each other which I love to see

But they're teammates. I've seen in the field events athletes from different countries not only clapping for each other during their run ups but celebrating for them when they make a great throw or clear a height.

The most obvious thing is the hate the two high jumpers on here got for deciding to share the gold medal. I guess Americans are so desperate for a distance runner who can win they're willing to overlook the worst just so they can crow about it.

ah yeah completely agree overall I freaking loved watching women’s shotput and lj and men’s hj this year. I read someone say it’s partly because they’re not straining to get past each other but to get past the bar or the line in the sand which is a very nice way to think about competing.

probably also because they have smaller egos because their events are more overlooked. and the top runners’ egos so silly to me in the end because it’s running… apart from mclaughlin if they’re so focused on their egos they’re going about it wrong because they’d all make more $ if they just ran their way into stanford harvard etc

Guys, lets be honest: Emma for a long time now has focused more on her image, her social media, her looks, and her products to peddle. She felt that her gold medal in Tokyo was pre-ordained. She took it for granted.

I am so happy for Frerichs. She totally deserves it. The queen is dead, long live the Queen.

Social media will obliterate the US. We are mesmerized looking at ourselves in the mirror, amusing ourselves to death, while the rest are grinding it.

The breakdown of Emma --broken down when the script on her mind did not pan out-- should be a lesson for all: to be, rather than to seem.

Lyles jogs it in...............

Serious thought: did Team Boss do any humidity training? Running at 9000ft in Crested Butte is entirely different than running at sea level in 100% humidity. BTC went to Hawaii.

I commend her for owning her bad day. I question Bosshard if he didn't prep them for the conditions.

Turns out that it is really Losshard.

Wouldn't be surprised if she peaked too soon. She would have been very close to 9:00 if she hadn't fallen in Monaco. At that point it's easy to go from incredible shape to feeling like sh*t in a matter of weeks. Generally, the hormonal/endocrinal system can't sustain at that level very long. I've had the experience myself of absolutely flying a few weeks before a big a event, and then horrible come raceday.

Second, having run the steeplechase from a late teenager to a 50+ masters athlete, there is no worse track event to be in once you are cooked. No energy, no momentum or ability to accelerate, no spring, but immovable barriers to get over. Coburn did well to battle on and finish...

Turbolandy wrote:

Guys, lets be honest: Emma for a long time now has focused more on her image, her social media, her looks, and her products to peddle. She felt that her gold medal in Tokyo was pre-ordained. She took it for granted.

I am so happy for Frerichs. She totally deserves it. The queen is dead, long live the Queen.

Social media will obliterate the US. We are mesmerized looking at ourselves in the mirror, amusing ourselves to death, while the rest are grinding it.

The breakdown of Emma --broken down when the script on her mind did not pan out-- should be a lesson for all: to be, rather than to seem.

People want this to be true, but it obviously isn’t.

Coburn nearly broke the AR just weeks ago. She’s in great fitness and wasn’t the only medal contender who fell off the pace today.

It’s so funny to me how runners think some mild self-promotion will tank an athlete’s performance. Look at LeBron James, Tom Brady, etc etc — The best of the best in any major professional sport has WAY more professional and promotional obligations than even the most active professional runner.

pjf wrote:

Come on, harsh to suggest Coburn didn't try her best. She clearly tried but tied up for whatever reason, whether humidity or something else bothering her. Eurosport coverage showed her fall - first steeple on the last lap - she looked gassed and stepped on the steeple to jump and fell on landing, fell over the rail infield.

Yea, if you see her jump the H2O just before the last lap she practically looked like her legs went Jello. She was totally gassed for some reason.

Turbolandy wrote:

Guys, lets be honest: Emma for a long time now has focused more on her image, her social media, her looks, and her products to peddle. She felt that her gold medal in Tokyo was pre-ordained. She took it for granted.

I am so happy for Frerichs. She totally deserves it. The queen is dead, long live the Queen.

Social media will obliterate the US. We are mesmerized looking at ourselves in the mirror, amusing ourselves to death, while the rest are grinding it.

The breakdown of Emma --broken down when the script on her mind did not pan out-- should be a lesson for all: to be, rather than to seem.

Spoken like a true jealous dummy. You don't think she's working her ass off? That's insane. She works as hard or harder than anyone else. Just accept she'll always be prettier and more successful than you, and that's not even the best parts of her life.