I'm not familiar with Atlanta, and even less familiar with "Massage Therapy" establishments.
Are these places code words for prostitution? The shooter admitted he had a sex addition and wanted to eliminate things that gave him temptations. So is sex a "massage shops" legal in Georgia?
If this was truly racially motivated, why wouldn't he have shot up more Chinese/Korean/Tai restaurants? I would think there would be way more of those available than "massage shops".
I read the AP articles on this while eating breakfast this morning. I'm kind of astounded by how the media is trying to connect dots that really are not even slightly related in this case.
This guy--from what I can tell--was a deranged but devout Christian who was horrified at his own sex addiction to the point of murder. This guy's friends from high school claim he was a nice kid who even carried his Bible around school. The fact that he was so devout is a good indicator that he actually was motivated by religious reasons, not racial ones. This is a case of, more or less, religious extremism that is completely off-base from what any normal Christian would say is acceptable. Nevertheless, the media is trying to paint this as some sort of racial attack and that he hated Asians. Who is saying people hate asians because covid started in China? Not this dude, at the least.
Honestly, what I'm more concerned about here is the fact that the media is completely overlooking what these "spas" actually are. Guys, there's a reason why a dude claiming to have a sex addiction is targeting asian spas--one of them is called "Youngs Asian Spa" for crying out loud... and I can tell you that the dude who owned it does not have the name "young" at all.
If the media is trying to come to the side of asians, they should be speaking out against the blatant sexualization and objectification of asian women that these spas are promoting. Although it is clear this dude was deranged and not justified in any way for what he did, this case is not a cookie-cutter "racist kills people because he hates [insert race here]". We need to consider what harm these asian "spas" are doing to asian women before we try to jump on a made up story about how this dude apparently "hates asians".
Got it, so instead of focusing on this lunatic killing a bunch of mostly Asian women, let’s focus on the women and how a ‘devout’ Christian was brainwashed into killing them because their workplaces sexualized them....did you actually read what you wrote brah?
If he was ‘ horrified’ about his sex addiction why wouldn’t he kill himself?
This is like saying the Green River killer was not that evil, it’s the prostitution industry that made him snap...seriously?
Yes but now you are trying to analyze his thoughts and what he should have done. He was a complete loon that no one should be able to understand (and frankly shouldn't try). "He was so horrified by his sex addiction why did he not kill himself?" Well, i don't know. Probably because he is a nutjob and decided killing others was better. We all would love to analyze any crazy person who has gone on a killing spree and say, "they probably would have been more satisfied just killing themselves first"
Not in my hood wrote:
I'm not familiar with Atlanta, and even less familiar with "Massage Therapy" establishments.
Are these places code words for prostitution? The shooter admitted he had a sex addition and wanted to eliminate things that gave him temptations. So is sex a "massage shops" legal in Georgia?
If this was truly racially motivated, why wouldn't he have shot up more Chinese/Korean/Tai restaurants? I would think there would be way more of those available than "massage shops".
Shhhh stop thinking too hard. The shooter was white and his victims weren't - that's all there is needed to prove that the shooter was racist and that Trump and conservatives are causing a rise in white supremacist attacks. Now shut out and stop questioning the narrative you racist, white supremacist sympathizer!
humidity is my altitude wrote:
Yes but now you are trying to analyze his thoughts and what he should have done. He was a complete loon that no one should be able to understand (and frankly shouldn't try). "He was so horrified by his sex addiction why did he not kill himself?" Well, i don't know. Probably because he is a nutjob and decided killing others was better. We all would love to analyze any crazy person who has gone on a killing spree and say, "they probably would have been more satisfied just killing themselves first"
This attitude is dangerous. If we as a society want to start preventing more of these types attack, people are going to have to try and understand why people like this commit these acts. That requires people to dig a little deeper than just calling him a nutjob (which he is obviously, but that's not the point) and wagging their fingers, and actually understand what these types of people are thinking and how their life-experience brought them to that point. I know that is intellectually hard and requires them to put aside their feelings for a moment, but it's the right thing to do.
Not in my hood wrote:
I'm not familiar with Atlanta, and even less familiar with "Massage Therapy" establishments.
Are these places code words for prostitution? The shooter admitted he had a sex addition and wanted to eliminate things that gave him temptations. So is sex a "massage shops" legal in Georgia?
If this was truly racially motivated, why wouldn't he have shot up more Chinese/Korean/Tai restaurants? I would think there would be way more of those available than "massage shops".
He didn't shoot up a restaurant because he was targeting sex workers. If there was nothing racial involved why did he only target Asian parlors.
It's easier to think of people as sexual objects when you don't consider them as equal. It also makes it easier to kill them.
Sounds good to me wrote:
Got it, so instead of focusing on this lunatic killing a bunch of mostly Asian women, let’s focus on the women and how a ‘devout’ Christian was brainwashed into killing them because their workplaces sexualized them....did you actually read what you wrote brah?
If he was ‘ horrified’ about his sex addiction why wouldn’t he kill himself?
This is like saying the Green River killer was not that evil, it’s the prostitution industry that made him snap...seriously?
I'm saying his motivation to kill "a bunch of mostly Asian women" was because of his deranged religious ideas about places that clearly sexualize and objectify "mostly Asian" women. What are you saying his motivation was?
We don't have to 'understand' it. If people are angry they typically turn their anger in an outward direction, hence not killing himself.
OH...TX wrote:
Are we just pretending this guy isn't an obvious incel? Incel terrorism isn't exactly a new phenomenon.
That's some crazy stuff. I had to google the term. Had never heard of it. The internet can really bring out the worst in some people, give them a voice, encourage their distortions and delusions. That's some crazy scary stuff.
Not in my hood wrote:
I'm not familiar with Atlanta, and even less familiar with "Massage Therapy" establishments.
Are these places code words for prostitution? The shooter admitted he had a sex addition and wanted to eliminate things that gave him temptations. So is sex a "massage shops" legal in Georgia?
If this was truly racially motivated, why wouldn't he have shot up more Chinese/Korean/Tai restaurants? I would think there would be way more of those available than "massage shops".
I live in Atlanta, actually about a 15 minute drive away from the massage parlors that were attacked. These places aren't legal, but the government and police turn a blind eye toward them.
Still don't understand why both sides are arguing on whether or not this loser's shootings were race-motivated. It does not matter.
Pretty clear to me the guy is an incel/loner type who hates women, especially women in the sex industry. I don’t think this has anything to do with religion. Doesn’t seem to be connected to COViD-related racism either at first glance.
nerinxer wrote:
Still don't understand why both sides are arguing on whether or not this loser's shootings were race-motivated. It does not matter.
Talk to some Asian women. I have a friend who is highly accomplished and educated who is an Asian woman. To me, it seems like she should have no reason to feel threatened, intimated, or fearful because of these Atlanta shootings. But she expressed privately to me how concerned she is as AAPI by these and other incidents. It's not an irrational fear. It's a reasonable concern.
aderyb wrote:
Not in my hood wrote:
I'm not familiar with Atlanta, and even less familiar with "Massage Therapy" establishments.
Are these places code words for prostitution? The shooter admitted he had a sex addition and wanted to eliminate things that gave him temptations. So is sex a "massage shops" legal in Georgia?
If this was truly racially motivated, why wouldn't he have shot up more Chinese/Korean/Tai restaurants? I would think there would be way more of those available than "massage shops".
He didn't shoot up a restaurant because he was targeting sex workers. If there was nothing racial involved why did he only target Asian parlors.
It's easier to think of people as sexual objects when you don't consider them as equal. It also makes it easier to kill them.
How many non-Asian sex parlors do you think there are in Atlanta? You seem to know a lot about mass murderers and sex parlors in the Atlanta area, so I am sure you will be able to provide a list of white sex parlors he could have shot up instead.
educated on letsrun wrote:
nerinxer wrote:
Still don't understand why both sides are arguing on whether or not this loser's shootings were race-motivated. It does not matter.
Talk to some Asian women. I have a friend who is highly accomplished and educated who is an Asian woman. To me, it seems like she should have no reason to feel threatened, intimated, or fearful because of these Atlanta shootings. But she expressed privately to me how concerned she is as AAPI by these and other incidents. It's not an irrational fear. It's a reasonable concern.
My Asian friends feel as though there is a general, worrisome trend of increased animosity and violence directed at Asians, and that this singular incident doesn't change that one way or the other.
China Joe wrote:
aderyb wrote:
He didn't shoot up a restaurant because he was targeting sex workers. If there was nothing racial involved why did he only target Asian parlors.
It's easier to think of people as sexual objects when you don't consider them as equal. It also makes it easier to kill them.
How many non-Asian sex parlors do you think there are in Atlanta? You seem to know a lot about mass murderers and sex parlors in the Atlanta area, so I am sure you will be able to provide a list of white sex parlors he could have shot up instead.
I googled Atlanta massage parlors and it listed 84 establishments. Some have Asian sounding names but most do not. I have no idea which ones have Asian workers only. But given that non-Indian Asians comprise less than 3% of the population of metro Atlanta it seems unlikely that only Asians work in all of those parlors.
A 33 yr old woman visits a "sex massage" parlor with her husband? And 74 yr old woman works at another "sex massage" parlor? And the 21 yr old man is addicted to sex with women in their 50s, 60s and 70s? Really?
https://www.vox.com/22336318/atlanta-shootings-victims-what-we-know
Why did he kill the white people?
The Land of Rising Sun wrote:
A 33 yr old woman visits a "sex massage" parlor with her husband? And 74 yr old woman works at another "sex massage" parlor? And the 21 yr old man is addicted to sex with women in their 50s, 60s and 70s? Really?
https://www.vox.com/22336318/atlanta-shootings-victims-what-we-know
So tells us why he killed them. He just selected businesses at random?