Huntington Uni drama

Wow. Well coach Nick has violated the no contact order as he called me recently.

My call log can verify all of this.

Who do I contact to let know that he’s not following the rules?

The Sheriffs Office

Thanks bud. Just called the sheriff. The detective is going to get back with me ASAP.

I let them know that Coach Nick is ruining the investigation as he continues to make phone calls and talk to people.

geez o peez, that sounds bad! Please call the sheriff as he is tampering with the investigation. Seems like he has plenty to hide since he continues to break the law.

Besides cheating on his wife, is what he did really that bad? Age of consent is 16 in Indiana.

Seems like a lot of privilege, entitlement, and nepotism going on here. If any of this turns out to be true, which it seems likely, HU deserves to go down hard. If you are an HU athlete, this is not how it's supposed to be.

It’s comical to say that Loren or even others on the staff did not know about some of the issues.

Facts EVERYONE knew

1. The had two current Huntington girls living with them

2. They had a high school athlete living with them

3. They rode the line if just about every Naia rule, they lied about other coaches in recruiting, and stole committed athletes from other programs.

4. Everyone saw the “massages” Nick gave in public, easy to see that the “private” ones went too far.

5. Your going to say his wife knew he was massages girls in their garage? No matter which of you in here cosch, your wife is cool with private massages in your garage?

Everyone knew some level of shade was going on, the hole is no one knew EVERYTHING but the other coaches and admins were looking the other way because they were winning.

If all this is true, this is all crazy. The college/high school athletes living with them is especially crazy.

That being said, I feel like this thread is getting a little out of hand and trending towards slander for the individuals not involved in the affidavit.

crazy train wrote:

If all this is true, this is all crazy. The college/high school athletes living with them is especially crazy.

That being said, I feel like this thread is getting a little out of hand and trending towards slander for the individuals not involved in the affidavit.

It's nowhere near slander. It's highly likely that people associated with the guy knew what was going on and either ignored it or covered it up. That makes them COMPLICIT or maybe even accomplices to at least 4 felonies.

The authorities need to get to the bottom of it, and everyone should be questioned under oath.

This thread absolutely has gotten out of hand and has crossed over into the territory of slander. Much of the information that has been posted is either outright false or presented with no context whatsoever to make it appear like it is something it is not. Presenting such slander is not appropriate for this situation. This is not about protecting Johnson, he clearly violated the law as seen in the affidavit and should bear the full consequences. This is about not spreading false information about people who were not responsible for this terrible situation, including HU athletes and Johnson’s wife. Their lives are screwed up enough right now, the spewing of rumors and falsehoods about their program is not helpful. This entire matter is going to court, there is a legal process that will take place, and justice will be done. Spewing rumors on a message board about those not involved in the affidavit does not change the legal process one iota and only worsens the situation for all directly involved. The thread regarding this situation on Indiana Runner has removed posts that border on slander, I suggest this thread to does the same. One last note, it’s just great to observe some of the posters who are really enjoying seeing a cross country program go through about the most nightmarish situation a program could go through in which many lives are damaged at the moment. Withholding comments and assumptions about something you know nothing about and instead letting the legal process play out may go a long way in restoring some sense of class. Bash Johnson if you want, slandering about others when you have no sense of the full story or context should have no place on this message board.

Sounds like the wife having a temper tantrum. Nobody has been named aside from the wife (which is relevant because she is the new coach). There is nothing even close to slander here. By the way, it would be libel not slander because it's written. You are accusing people of a crime that you don't even know the meaning of.

I actually think people in this thread have been extremely responsible and respectful.

Big props to her if she is the head coach moving forward. That’s a hard spot to be in, let alone being the wife of the guilty adult. Gotta be super awkward and just a weird situation.

yukon19 wrote:

Big props to her if she is the head coach moving forward. That’s a hard spot to be in, let alone being the wife of the guilty adult. Gotta be super awkward and just a weird situation.

It can't be true that they are hiring the wife as the next head coach. That would be an amazingly bizarre decision and seems very bad for all involved.

First, why would she want/take it? Her husband is going to jail. He wrecked the program. She's going to take over his mess? And she is going to benefit in a strange way from his crimes? And if they stay married, then he technically will have access to the program in the future.

Second, while it is remotely possible she didn't know or have any idea of what was going on, that seems highly unlikely. If others knew he was giving "massages" in private, at his home or in dark rooms late at night at the university, she most likely heard about it or sensed something was wrong. Even if he hadn't done anything wrong, everyone knows you don't have private meetings with athletes, much less private massage sessions, much less private massage sessions in your own home and in the dark. If there were actually athletes living with them too, she is liable for that for sure. But I defer to my first statement, everyone knows you don't meet with any athlete in private, out of sight, for any reason. She most likely knew this was happening at the very least. Even if she didn't actually know, the odds are so slim that I cannot see how an administration would continue associating with her either.

Third, how would the athletes and future recruits respond to the wife of the coach that committed crimes as coach, now being the coach? It just seems like a great way to have transfers get out and new recruits avoid coming in. It seems like an incredibly challenging relationship at the very least.

Fourth, it would certainly send a very questionable message about the Administration. It sounds like there are already some serious questions that need to be asked about their lack of action previously and possibly of the head Track coach. Hiring his wife as his replacement puts the entire reputation of the university at stake and could include liability.

Fifth, they need a coach now. If they hire her now, what happens when other current and former athletes and recruits step forward with accusations? What happens if more is revealed in the future about her knowledge or even involvement? I presume his trial will not be for quite a while. What comes out in the trial or between now and a trial? Not saying those things will happen, but they are all very real possibilities, which would further damage the program and the school, and even more so if she is immediately hired as the new coach.

Lastly, how could this be good for her psychologically? I don't see how this is a good idea for her personally. She is going through some of the most severe mental trauma right now. If she wants to coach, then get through this and get out of town. Getting out of town makes a lot of sense no matter what. Find a coaching job somewhere else. Rebuild your life. Put some distance between this. I don't know how she could even coach these athletes at her best given the situation, even if she wanted to.

If he gets convicted, and they get a divorce, and she gets coaching experience somewhere else, and this position comes open 3-5 years down the line, then maybe that is ok. But hiring her to replace her criminal husband now doesn't sound like a good idea at so many levels.

Again, the idea that she is going to be hired might just be a lie or a rumor. It will be interesting to see what happens and what the ultimate fall outs are. Such a sad and stupid situation.

Moving forward, we are requiring registration to post on this thread.

Boots on the ground. I'm going to Huntington Indiana this weekend. What should I try to investigate?

Some of you need Google.

Level 6 felony (lowest felony in Indiana) carries a possible sentence of 6 months-2 1/2 years. Guideline is 1 year (not necessarily served, could be probation)

Level 5 felony carries a possible sentence of 1 - 6 years. Guideline is 3 years.

Any portion of the sentence could be suspended.

There are also possible fines associated with each.

Child Seduction is unique to Indiana. It requires a relationship like teacher, boss, coach, guardian, adoptive parent, etc.

The age of consent in Indiana is 16. (This is common in a lot of states - Google it) Even though it’s nasty, a 60 year old can legally have a relationship with a 16 year old as long as they don’t have a professional relationship.

I’d recommend to investigate the following-

What is the uni doing to protect the runners? Nick has broken the no contact order they gave him. What is the uni doing to prevent him from continuing to break it?

Nick said they came at him with 57 years but he held strong and didn’t break. Ask Nick why he told people that.... especially when the affidavit says he confessed to everything.

I think it’s worth a look to reach out to athletes and their parents. He has told wild stories to a few of them to say the least.......

You must not spend much time around here because this is par for the course at this cesspool. There isn't much class. Which is what makes its such an open, but often shameless, source of information.

I also wouldn't put absolute faith in the legal process. Plenty of people have squirmed out of sticky situations even when there was clear wrongdoing. There has to be pretty solid evidence to convince some jurors beyond a reasonable doubt. So things could play out in which there was clearly terrible things going on but not enough to lead to a conviction. However, our society generally doesn't look favorably upon people that mess around with minors.

Rick Sanchez wrote:

Boots on the ground. I'm going to Huntington Indiana this weekend. What should I try to investigate?

Investigate why they are called the Foresters despite a clear lack of forests in the area.