it's taken me a day and a half to catch up.
I LOVE this place. Thank you all for doing this.
I follow the Skins chairman Jaimie Fuller on Twitter and he seems to be a guy out for all that is fair in sports.
https://twitter.com/jaimiefuller
Curious to see if he responds to tweets about this.
FInally Contributing wrote:
I think what we have is Rob is a decent ultra runner. He likes running, is capable of running around slowly for a while.
I really wonder what Rob and his crew was thinking. When did they make the decision to cheat? Did they start the race with good intentions but realize how utterly difficult it was?
Or did the team know from the get go they'd fake portions of it?
What's more mind boggling to me is that there's a group of them. Is Rob so likeable that he convinced the others that it would be okay and be a good idea?
My guess is that he's run a good portion of it, all the 9,10min+ segments. But his downfall is his ego.
He claims to be doing it 'for the kids' but the reality is his behaviors point towards a person who craves attention. The fabricating of his initial marathon story, the buying of twitter followers, the stealing a photo of some other dude and claiming it's himself, the constant wikipedia editing.
His ego made him want to seek notoriety.
It's also funny how all these cheating runner types also make classic mistakes. Since they really aren't good runners, they all make the mistake of overstating their PR's, paces, etc. Hobby joggers don't notice because to them, a 5min or 6min mile all seem plausible. But the running nerds of letsrun know plausibility of paces down to the second.
So when the RV gets impatient and drives 25mi at near his documented marathon PR, we know it's BS.
Anyways, it's a fascinating psychological study.
His running career is over. No turning back now. More and more media coverage will be coming out. His fabricated wikipedia page will be on page 3 or 4 of Google behind all of the articles about his cheating and exposing him as a fraud.
As it should be.
billy bob wrote:
I very much doubt the press will pick this up as him cheating. He's a perfect story for them. Abused as a child etc.
That's probably the first thing a reporter would investigate. What evidence is there of abuse? There's far more evidence of narcissism or some other personality disorder, so I don't know why anyone would believe anything he's said to this point.
Think about the generations,
and say we wanna make it a better place for our children and our children's children, so that they know it's a better world for them; And think if they can make it a better place...
There's a place in your heart
And I know that it is love
And this place could be
Brighter than tomorrow.
And if you really try
You'll find there's no need to cry (or run)
In this place you'll feel
There's no hurt or sorrow.
There are ways to get there (in an RV)
If you care enough for the living
Make a little space, make a better place.
Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me and the entire trans-american race
There are people dying
If you care enough for the living
Make a better place for
You and for me. (but especially me)
coolguy33 wrote:
it's taken me a day and a half to catch up.
I LOVE this place. Thank you all for doing this.
I got to page 31 and didn't think I could go any further, but then I asked for six double espressos with 15 sugars, and suddenly I was back reading at a 6 posts per minute pace.
I see you skinny little girls have found another project. This comes to mind:
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Raysism wrote:
billy bob wrote:I very much doubt the press will pick this up as him cheating. He's a perfect story for them. Abused as a child etc.
That's probably the first thing a reporter would investigate. What evidence is there of abuse? There's far more evidence of narcissism or some other personality disorder, so I don't know why anyone would believe anything he's said to this point.
He probably exaggerated, but his foster dad / mentor / teacher is a real person with a real name.
I wouldn't write off his running career. Parvenah and Dane and Viada are still going. He could just ignore us jealous haters and his worshipers will probably stay with him.
Where's Kev gone?
In case anyone missed it, media are starting to report on this:
http://www.outsideonline.com/2089906/robert-young-run-across-america
As this is now in the public domain, the wiki has been updated accordingly. This can no longer be buried.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_HP_Young#Fastest_trans-American_run_attempt
From this morning.
"Morning everyone - have had a couple real bad days - legs are real sore and hurting and I'm a little mentally beat
Still pushing forward. Sending my love to you all and thankyou for your support"
The end is near gentleman. The injury and mental fatigue is upon us. Lol
The end is near. wrote:
From this morning.
"Morning everyone - have had a couple real bad days - legs are real sore and hurting and I'm a little mentally beat
Still pushing forward. Sending my love to you all and thankyou for your support"
The end is near gentleman. The injury and mental fatigue is upon us. Lol
Quickly he's discovering that when he actually has to run, it's a lot harder than expected.
In anticipation, please can I be the first to post:
ROBERT YOUNG GOES HOME DEVASTATED
I'm confused as last nights video of him running clearly shows him running in front of his support vehicle by a few feet. I thought his preferred method was to be 15 minutes behind the RV in the dark alone or the occasional magician act running along side the RV wherever you aren't lol
Stan Cottrell wrote:
Boulder turtle wrote:Send this information/link to the tabloids in the UK, like The Sun, Daily Star, or the Mirror.
They will run with the story and he'll be toast.
It is amazing that they have not picked up on it already. With apologies to Monsieur Rossi, this may become the biggest cheating story since Rosie Ruiz.
Absolutely gripping. Might not end up running to quite as many thousands of posts as the MR super-thread but it's gripping to watch the drama unfold live.
What the hell comes next?
The end is near. wrote:
From this morning.
"Morning everyone - have had a couple real bad days - legs are real sore and hurting and I'm a little mentally beat
Still pushing forward. Sending my love to you all and thankyou for your support"
The end is near gentleman. The injury and mental fatigue is upon us. Lol
I've missed a lot from yesterday. Are legs bad because he tried to do two actual big days back to back once he was outed? Or is he doing short days since he was outed and just claiming his legs are bad so he can quit?
Robert Young spends most of his time in his van. But that's not much worse than all the Internet whiners who spend all their time behind their computers. I doubt there will ever be any solid evidence of Young cheating, like a video of him jumping into the van and speeding off. People are simply too lazy to get out there and follow him with a bike and a video camera. That's all that's needed. One guy on a bike, and another on in a car.
Young will very soon cancel his "mission" and blame the Internet trolls so that he won't get caught red-handed. In a few months he'll be on his next cheating mission.
All that said, the OP, who actually got off his ass, deserves all the praise he can get.
Kevlar wrote:
Where's Kev gone?
I am still here and have read all the threads. There is nothing new to add apart from none of you people have yet to turn up and run with Rob. It's the weekend now so where are your excuses?
I have to add that this is really affecting Rob , mentally and physically. If you really want to see what he is truly made of them let him continue to run without any more abuse or slander. Run with him as repeatedly requested and post up evidence of your time with him. I think repeatedly bashing him is cowardly and to call his past childhood into question is a dreadful thing to do to someone who has suffered so much.
Rob is suffering in this run, of that there is no doubt, making him suffer more with posts like many of you have done is terrible and you should be ashamed.
Let the man run
There's more than a little evidence that he has a history of embellishing or flat out lying. That coupled with a serious lack of evidence of what he's doing and reports from people WHO HAVE GONE OUT TO RUN WITH HIM.
How about you start answering the many questions that have been raised. So far you've not even started to answer anything.
CoachKev wrote:
Rob is suffering in this run, of that there is no doubt, making him suffer more with posts like many of you have done is terrible and you should be ashamed.
I thought he could switch off pain. He could hammer a nail through his hand without a problem apparently so what's the problem with doing some distance running? Why's he suffering?