Roe v Wade just got overturned official thread

With Roe you could maybe score a date. Without it... no chance.

Because you are too busy reading pew research. Pe-uuuuuuu

According to a Pew poll the majority of adults who are Buddhist, Hindu, historically Black Protestant, Jewish, mainline Protestant, Muslim and Orthodox Christian faiths support legal abortion in all or most cases.

If someone like Sonia Sotomayor or Biden say they are Catholic, why shouldn't I believe them?

I didn't say we shouldn't discourage sex. We should recognize people are going to have sex. I am fine with discouraging it but be real. Or did you think Just say No was going to stop all drug use?

Note Screen Name is Bubble Fish on my other computer.

There is a fire at a fertility clinic.
In one corner, there is a terrified little five-year-old girl.
In the other, there is a container with 100 viable frozen embryos.
You can only save one.
Which do you save?

Most people recognize that 100 frozen embryos don't carry the rights of personhood that a 5 year old holds and would save the 5 year old. The people who hold life and rights of personhood begin at conception would save the frozen embryos.

But in America we have to respect the Catholic belief above allllll else because Establishment Clause? Wait what?

The argument is that people are treating the decision as if abortion is now illegal. It’s not. You can still get an abortion if you want one. 2:18 said poor people can’t because it cost money to travel. My question is: how were these poor people getting abortions under roe when their state only had 1 abortion clinic? Were they not traveling long distances then? The picture 2:18 is trying to paint is disingenuous, which is why he wouldn’t address that questions directly.

6 states had only 1 abortion clinic so I’m thinking people were already having to travel quite a bit for their abortions. Were poor people still investing in coat hangers during roe and no one cared, or is it just a talking point now to get an emotional response.

I think decent human beings think the opposite and dummy puritans who make life worse for everybody are less than decent.

Because Biden openly supports an anti-Catholic position.

The political ads are already ramping up.

I’m seeing ads for the primaries where the candidates are big on saying they will protect the right to have an abortion.

In the past a candidate would run to the left (or right) in the primaries, then run to the middle in the general.

Not so much any more.

They will be running to the edges in the general.
Democrats will surely be pointing to this ruling loudly and vociferously state protection of abortion in the general elections.

Will Republicans run loudly that they will ban abortions or will they deflect and talk about anything else when they campaign in the general?

What is the winning strategy for Republicans on this topic?

What do you mean deflect? Are the economy, gas prices, and Ukraine not big issues by themselves?

The winning strategy is sit back and watch Biden and the dems screw themselves over. This decision won’t have much of an impact. I’m sure some voters in Ohio and and other states might change their votes because of it, but when most middle class and low income Americans hit the voting booths, all they will think about is how much it cost to drive there.

Politicians don’t have control over how the market moves gas prices and such.

But they can put in laws to either ban abortion (now) or protect a woman’s choice.

They will be voting for lawmakers.

Threads like this show why your country is going to come apart. A passionate commitment to utterly irreconcilable positions on matters of fundamental rights. It isn't confined to Roe v Wade but can be seen everywhere. Guns, race, gender, vaccines, masks, election results, religion - it goes on - you are effectively living in separate countries.

I’m not a a huge Biden fan, but I appreciate him for not trying to enforce his religious beliefs on the nation.

I guess we are done talking then. I can’t teach you basic economic theory. Politicians 100% have an effect on the economy. Maybe you forgot about the Covid lockdowns and the effect they had on the supply chain.

All the yelling is just that. The overwhelming majority of people are unlikely to change their party loyalty based on this one issue because they know it doesn’t make all that much of a difference in practice compared to other more pressing issues for them.

And that’s fine, but he parades around and calls himself a devout Catholic while ignoring and defying Catholic doctrine.

Do nothing to stir the pot.

The base is fine and knows nothing much has changed, and would be energized at seeing conservative virtue signals after years of what they saw as liberal waterboarding of their traditions.