1101 wrote:
L L wrote:
How do you give a win to someone who gave two guesses?
Nobody else to give it to.
So, close enough.
And that's pretty much how I got through grad school
1101 wrote:
L L wrote:
How do you give a win to someone who gave two guesses?
Nobody else to give it to.
So, close enough.
And that's pretty much how I got through grad school
1101 wrote:
L L wrote:
How do you give a win to someone who gave two guesses?
Nobody else to give it to.
So, close enough.
I predict either the Republicans or Democrats will control the senate after today's elections.
Criminal actions are certainly becoming the norm for the GOP. Check this out
Trollminator wrote:
Criminal actions are certainly becoming the norm for the GOP. Check this out
https://twitter.com/sylv404/status/1346542022065348610?s=20
Sally and Igy - you need to share some of your pills with that guy. Sheesh
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1346555744372535298?s=20Trollminator wrote:
Criminal actions are certainly becoming the norm for the GOP. Check this out
https://twitter.com/sylv404/status/1346542022065348610?s=20
The Lt. Governor of PA is a very large man, and a former college football player. He's also got a good sense of humor and doesn't mind sticking it to Republicans every so often. I wouldn't be messing with him.
L L wrote:
1101 wrote:
Nobody else to give it to.
So, close enough.
I predict either the Republicans or Democrats will control the senate after today's elections.
Problem is, I never asked the question.
OK, here's your big chance. Who do you predict will control the Senate after today's election?
Trollminator wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Criminal actions are certainly becoming the norm for the GOP. Check this out
https://twitter.com/sylv404/status/1346542022065348610?s=20Sally and Igy - you need to share some of your pills with that guy. Sheesh
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1346555744372535298?s=20
did some research...the issue is:
Close election.
a couple hundred ballots were returned without a handwritten date on the envelope.
PA state law requires a handwritten date on the envelope.
The PA courts said count them anyway.
Lawsuits are in action to toss the PA supreme court decision.
PA Rs are saying 'let's wait to see what the legislation says before we seat the new guy'
Predictit has the odds narrowly favoring the Dems.
Ossoff: 52% likely
Warnock 61% likely
Predictit usually skews Trumpist so this sounds good for the Dems.
But it's so tight...could flip in a nanosecond.
Trollminator wrote:
[quote]Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
[quote]Fat hurts wrote:
The Turkish people wouldn't like it because of the Muslim ban. But Erdoğan would love having him as a valuable asset.[/quote
Russia is the only place where trump has value and can feel safe. Putin would parade him domestically and he'd love it, totally oblivious to the fact that he's a trophy.
Catherine the Great confined her hairdresser to an iron cage. Putin could do the same with Trump.
Dr. Racket wrote:
And that's pretty much how I got through grad school
And that's actually how you're *supposed* to get through law school.
agip wrote:
Predictit has the odds narrowly favoring the Dems.
Ossoff: 52% likely
Warnock 61% likely
Predictit usually skews Trumpist so this sounds good for the Dems.
But it's so tight...could flip in a nanosecond.
538 has the races at close to identical results. That indicates that it is almost entirely a straight party vote, with a few more people deciding they do not want Loeffler at all.
Ossoff 49.1%
Perdue 47.4%
...
Warnock 49.4%
Loeffler 47.2%
The holy needle has arrived
But will not activate until around 7:00 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html
If Ossoff and Warnock win, the Senate is 50/50. With VP Harris casting the tiebreaking vote, the Democrats would effectively control the Senate.
But that assumes that every vote in the Senate is along party lines. While the Dems would not need any Republicans to cross the aisle and vote with them to pass legislation (if Ossoff and Warnock win), they will need all Dems to vote as a bloc. And there's no guarantee that will happen, particularly with respect to any legislation that is viewed as too progressive.
I'm thinking of Joe Manchin of WV, but there probably are a few other Dem Senators that are moderate, are maybe from red states, and might not vote party line on progressive bills that are being pushed by someone like Bernie Sanders.
Winning both GA seats will allow the Dems to control what bills make it to the floor for a vote, but if the split is 50/50 it won't be enough to give the Dems free reign to pass any legislation they want. This is what killed Trump's attempt to repeal the ACA; the Republicans had the majority in the Senate, but it was so narrow that one or two defections were enough to derail what Trump wanted to do.
johnny99 wrote:
Winning both GA seats will allow the Dems to control what bills make it to the floor for a vote, but if the split is 50/50 it won't be enough to give the Dems free [rein] to pass any legislation they want. This is what killed Trump's attempt to repeal the ACA; the Republicans had the majority in the Senate, but it was so narrow that one or two defections were enough to derail what Trump wanted to do.
I doubt that the Dems are going to win both GA seats, but it's interesting to assume that they do, and then wonder how aggressively they would push to make DC a state. Doing so would certainly solidify a Democratic majority in the Senate.
Puerto Rico is a different proposition. First, the Puerto Ricans would have to approve statehood (that's a given for DC, but not for PR); second,Republicans have won a number of island-wide elections, which might actually be attractive to GOPers in Congress; but third, granting statehood to the island would mean allowing a lot of brown people who mostly speak Spanish to vote for president, which would *not* be attractive to many of the people who vote for Congressional Republicans.
[A separate consideration: Puerto Rico has more people than Iowa, say, or Kansas or West Virginia...meaning they would pick up several members of the House (probably four), and subtract those from some of the House's current Congressional delegations. Not universally popular.]
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Pence also has full authority to reject Biden electors tomorrow. The dem panic begins.
Clarification: from the contested states
Trump may very well remain POTUS as he was the legitimate winner all along.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Good one!
That annoying "Constitution" thingy gives Pence ZERO authority to reject Biden electors, from any state(s). And Trump got his ass kicked in 2020, though he *was* the legitimate winner in 2016.
But of course you knew all that.
agip wrote:
Predictit has the odds narrowly favoring the Dems.
Ossoff: 52% likely
Warnock 61% likely
Predictit usually skews Trumpist so this sounds good for the Dems.
But it's so tight...could flip in a nanosecond.
It has been a beautiful day here in Georgia. I was hoping for a blizzard.
Good weather is good for Republican turnout.
jumbo shrimp wrote:
If we are going to be honest, despite Trump, the Republicans did better down ballot. In addition, Republicans are set up well to take the House at the mid terms. If Georgia doesn’t go their way today, it will be a long 4 years for the Biden/Harris agenda.
Ironically enough, I think the Republicans' down-ballot success this fall was not despite Trump but because of him. Say what you will about the man, he *got people to the polls*; and in 2020 I think millions of GOP voters, who under ordinary circumstances might have apathetically stayed home, were motivated to vote: against Trump, yes, because they were tired of the madness, but otherwise like the Republicans that they are.
The flip side to that: There could be a real chance that the Republicans have already realized most of their projected mid-term gains, and would have trouble turning the House red in 2022--particularly as voters see that the Dems are not turning the USA into a socialist state.
formerly present wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Clarification: from the contested states
Trump may very well remain POTUS as he was the legitimate winner all along.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Good one!
That annoying "Constitution" thingy gives Pence ZERO authority to reject Biden electors, from any state(s). And Trump got his ass kicked in 2020, though he *was* the legitimate winner in 2016.
But of course you knew all that.
I wouldn't be celebrating, if I were you. Team Biden is going to be getting nothing but bad news from this point forward.
AZ Legislature preps resolution to retroactively certify 11 Trump Electors.
https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/55leg/1R/bills/SCR1002P.htmMore states will decertify Biden to be followed by a widespread lib panic.
kibitzer wrote:
jumbo shrimp wrote:
If we are going to be honest, despite Trump, the Republicans did better down ballot. In addition, Republicans are set up well to take the House at the mid terms. If Georgia doesn’t go their way today, it will be a long 4 years for the Biden/Harris agenda.
Ironically enough, I think the Republicans' down-ballot success this fall was not despite Trump but because of him. Say what you will about the man, he *got people to the polls*; and in 2020 I think millions of GOP voters, who under ordinary circumstances might have apathetically stayed home, were motivated to vote: against Trump, yes, because they were tired of the madness, but otherwise like the Republicans that they are.
The flip side to that: There could be a real chance that the Republicans have already realized most of their projected mid-term gains, and would have trouble turning the House red in 2022--particularly as voters see that the Dems are not turning the USA into a socialist state.
I agree, I think. Seems to me the Rs turn out when Trump is on the ballot and don't show up when he is not.
compare 2016 and 2020 to 2018. The first two, Trump was on the ballot and the Rs did well. 2018 Trump was not on the ballot and the Ds did amazing.
So the house might not be in as much danger as it seems, since Trump won't be on the ballot in 2022.