Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

cuando wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

A very unlikable Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and narrowly lost the swing states against Trump. She was also hindered by the email server scandal.

And you think with Trump as president during this election squashing a female presidential candidate would not have been taken up to volume 11, or 12?

I did not consider Hillary Clinton as very unlikable, especially compared to a loudmouth Trump. You swallowed the media pills about her, and that was my point why a woman presidential candidate cannot win, not yet in the U.S.

I should have commented> the door is opened to a woman to run for president AND WIN in the next election cycle and after.

Trump is gone. Much of his base will go back to not voting, and old conservatives will peter out. Then a better qualified woman can beat a vociferous, weakly qualified, fake manly-man like Trump.

agip wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Biden was not a good candidate and the perception of him as being old and feeble gave Trump a chance of winning. Trump wouldn't have had a prayer against the 2008 Obama.

The pool of the 2020 Democrat candidates was weak, but Klobuchar would have been a better choice as being the one with the best chance of beating Trump.

I disagree pretty strongly that biden was a weak candidate...I think the results of the 2018 midterms and 2020 election show that the R's accusations of 'socialism' work quite well. Because the swing suburban districts lean to the right but just hate trump. So Biden's repuation as a middle of the roader helped him.

Add that to his connection with Obama, which helped get him the black vote. Amy is great, but she has no real connection to the A-A community. The key states need high black turnout.

Plus, amy did very badly in the primaries and has not made much of a name for herself nationally. She's not very good at national politics. Hard to see how her fail at national poltiics in the primary would turn into a big triumph against Trump.

splitting hairs wrote:

nonequals wrote:

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I think that Biden was a fine candidate. A moderate Democrat and apparently fairly decent human being. Would it have been better if he was 10 or 20 years younger? Probably (And is that "right,"? No). And in a decent country that would have been more than enough to completely destroy Trump. And yet, 47%....

Ok, I'll bite. Assume 20 years ago there was no Ukraine or Hunter story for a second.

Yes, the past version was fine. Like 1980s Biden. This old guy is weak. He is being steamrolled by the far left. He's also compromised. The Biden of 1980 didn't get much done. Less damage.

We can only hope this new puppet of the far left gets nothing done. What will you rich Dems like Seattle Prattle do if they institute Marxism, steal your house and retirement accounts? Oops. Should have voted for the Orange Guy.

PS: T probably got way more than 47%. Way more. People aren't that dumb to vote against their best interests. 50 cent got it.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

agip wrote:

I disagree pretty strongly that biden was a weak candidate...I think the results of the 2018 midterms and 2020 election show that the R's accusations of 'socialism' work quite well. Because the swing suburban districts lean to the right but just hate trump. So Biden's repuation as a middle of the roader helped him.

Add that to his connection with Obama, which helped get him the black vote. Amy is great, but she has no real connection to the A-A community. The key states need high black turnout.

Plus, amy did very badly in the primaries and has not made much of a name for herself nationally. She's not very good at national politics. Hard to see how her fail at national poltiics in the primary would turn into a big triumph against Trump.

Biden received about 1% of the votes in the primaries in 1988 and 2008. How is it that at at age 77 he's suddenly a great candidate?

I was very concerned that Biden was going to hurt his chances by appearing to be somewhat senile in the debates. With a good candidate in their prime, I wouldn't have been worried. If Trump had a clue, he would have just let Biden talk during the 1st debate, but he gave him a gift by going berserk.

The Presidency is the most important job in the world and he/she needs to be experienced, intelligent, articulate, in their prime and a good person. Depending on one's opinion on Biden's intelligence, he has two or three of these qualities. Trump whiffs bigly on all five.

splitting hairs wrote:

nonequals wrote:

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I think that Biden was a fine candidate. A moderate Democrat and apparently fairly decent human being. Would it have been better if he was 10 or 20 years younger? Probably (And is that "right,"? No). And in a decent country that would have been more than enough to completely destroy Trump. And yet, 47%....

Ok, I'll bite. Assume 20 years ago there was no Ukraine or Hunter story for a second.

Yes, the past version was fine. Like 1980s Biden. This old guy is weak. He is being steamrolled by the far left. He's also compromised. The Biden of 1980 didn't get much done. Less damage.

We can only hope this new puppet of the far left gets nothing done. What will you rich Dems like Seattle Prattle do if they institute Marxism, steal your house and retirement accounts? Oops. Should have voted for the Orange Guy.

PS: T probably got way more than 47%. Way more. People aren't that dumb to vote against their best interests. 50 cent got it.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

agip wrote:

I disagree pretty strongly that biden was a weak candidate...I think the results of the 2018 midterms and 2020 election show that the R's accusations of 'socialism' work quite well. Because the swing suburban districts lean to the right but just hate trump. So Biden's repuation as a middle of the roader helped him.

Add that to his connection with Obama, which helped get him the black vote. Amy is great, but she has no real connection to the A-A community. The key states need high black turnout.

Plus, amy did very badly in the primaries and has not made much of a name for herself nationally. She's not very good at national politics. Hard to see how her fail at national poltiics in the primary would turn into a big triumph against Trump.

Biden received about 1% of the votes in the primaries in 1988 and 2008. How is it that at at age 77 he's suddenly a great candidate?

I was very concerned that Biden was going to hurt his chances by appearing to be somewhat senile in the debates. With a good candidate in their prime, I wouldn't have been worried. If Trump had a clue, he would have just let Biden talk during the 1st debate, but he gave him a gift by going berserk.

The Presidency is the most important job in the world and he/she needs to be experienced, intelligent, articulate, in their prime and a good person. Depending on one's opinion on Biden's intelligence, he has two or three of these qualities. Trump whiffs bigly on all five.

agip wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Biden was not a good candidate and the perception of him as being old and feeble gave Trump a chance of winning. Trump wouldn't have had a prayer against the 2008 Obama.

The pool of the 2020 Democrat candidates was weak, but Klobuchar would have been a better choice as being the one with the best chance of beating Trump.

I disagree pretty strongly that biden was a weak candidate...I think the results of the 2018 midterms and 2020 election show that the R's accusations of 'socialism' work quite well. Because the swing suburban districts lean to the right but just hate trump. So Biden's repuation as a middle of the roader helped him.

Add that to his connection with Obama, which helped get him the black vote. Amy is great, but she has no real connection to the A-A community. The key states need high black turnout.

Plus, amy did very badly in the primaries and has not made much of a name for herself nationally. She's not very good at national politics. Hard to see how her fail at national poltiics in the primary would turn into a big triumph against Trump.

splitting hairs wrote:

nonequals wrote:

...

I think that Biden was a fine candidate. A moderate Democrat and apparently fairly decent human being. Would it have been better if he was 10 or 20 years younger? Probably (And is that "right,"? No). And in a decent country that would have been more than enough to completely destroy Trump. And yet, 47%....

Ok, I'll bite. Assume 20 years ago there was no Ukraine or Hunter story for a second.

Yes, the past version was fine. Like 1980s Biden. This old guy is weak. He is being steamrolled by the far left. He's also compromised. The Biden of 1980 didn't get much done. Less damage.

We can only hope this new puppet of the far left gets nothing done. What will you rich Dems like Seattle Prattle do if they institute Marxism, steal your house and retirement accounts? Oops. Should have voted for the Orange Guy.

PS: T probably got way more than 47%. Way more. People aren't that dumb to vote against their best interests. 50 cent got it.

agip wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Biden received about 1% of the votes in the primaries in 1988 and 2008. How is it that at at age 77 he's suddenly a great candidate?

I was very concerned that Biden was going to hurt his chances by appearing to be somewhat senile in the debates. With a good candidate in their prime, I wouldn't have been worried. If Trump had a clue, he would have just let Biden talk during the 1st debate, but he gave him a gift by going berserk.

The Presidency is the most important job in the world and he/she needs to be experienced, intelligent, articulate, in their prime and a good person. Depending on one's opinion on Biden's intelligence, he has two or three of these qualities. Trump whiffs bigly on all five.

What changed? he got older, he spent 8 years as veep in a succesful administration. He was in sync with the national desire for quiet normalcy. That made him a strong candidate who crushed everyone in the primary. Not sure what your point is exactly.

Biden is not senile. That is right wing propaganda that for some reason you have chosen to believe.

He has always been a gaffe-producer. He's not a great talker like trump or obama. Deal with it. He's what the nation wants right now, clearly and without debate.