Do you think Trump supporters ever just feel embarrassed by Trump. They have to read the news and see his tweets and think, "oh no what now?"
Or does it never happen?
Do you think Trump supporters ever just feel embarrassed by Trump. They have to read the news and see his tweets and think, "oh no what now?"
Or does it never happen?
TTH wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
It's probably a moot point, as like most 78-olds, Trump will be too old to run for president.
As is Biden who would have been shellacked by any other person on the Republican ticket.
how can you say that? Trump is the heart, soul and kidney of the R party. There is no one else. He's the lord king vishnu of the whole operation.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Do you think Trump supporters ever just feel embarrassed by Trump. They have to read the news and see his tweets and think, "oh no what now?"
Or does it never happen?
when someone is 'your guy' it's easy to overlook the problems.
many dems easily overlooked Bill Clinton's moral laxness, and many dems shrugged at HRC's email/server issues.
Concerned Senior wrote:
I am waiting for Jackson, MS to rename their airport to the "Trump/ Confederacy" airport.
POD
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Do you think Trump supporters ever just feel embarrassed by Trump. They have to read the news and see his tweets and think, "oh no what now?"
Or does it never happen?
There's many different kinds of supporters, but it is surprising to hear how many start with a disclaimer like 'I don't like his _____, but...", which indicates they acknowledge his offensive nature but still support what he is doing.
On the other hand, there was an interesting blog (or something) linked here about a month ago that made a convincing case that a lot of his base like him precisely because he irritates leftists and shakes up the established order, and that is what draws them to him the most and will continue to do so as long as he remains the left's greatest antagonist.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
I don't agree with CNN's conclusions based on a recent poll showing an 87% approval rating among Republicans for Trump:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/27/politics/trump-2024-analysis/index.html87% of the 46.9% that voted for Trump equates to 41% which is similar to his approval ratings. People that strongly approve of Trump are about 30%.
I believe that Nikki Haley would destroy him in the primaries as she is everything that Trump is not.
It's probably a moot point, as like most 78-olds, Trump will be too old to run for president.
According to Gallup polling on election day voter party affiliation broke down as:
Republican - 30%
Democrat - 31%
Independent - 38%
So Trump can have high approval among Rs and still be very unpopular. Unlike in 2016, a majority of Independents voted for Biden this year, which helps explain his large margin of victory in the popular vote. What is interesting is that the percentage identifying as Rs has dropped 5 points in the last month.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspxThere's no 2024 if the fraud isn't fixed. No more elections. No one who voted T will participate.
Why's Mitch not supporting him?
Dems were screaming if there's fraud "recount Kentucky". I agree. Recount and audit Kentucky. Do it!
If anything, T supporters are frustrated that nothing happens. No action. All twitter. Where are the indictments?
Rudy said big things coming after Christmas. Where are they? We are tired of waiting. Fix the election issues. PA is a disaster.
uw54 wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Trump was leading, and then the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time. Why?
. . .
Is there an answer to this question that doesn’t involve a conspiracy?
Sure. The answer is that you're proceeding from a premise that is contrary to fact. It's not the case that "the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/04/trump-biden-election-live-updates/...Unless by "essentially the same time" you mean "November"--which I suppose might be accurate in geological terms.
Not on a human time scale, though.
Well Arizona was called early by a Democrat hack working in Fox's election dept, so that one doesn't count as "close" because it was already over when the others shut down.
You got me on Georgia though! Georgia is where the Republican poll watchers were told the counting had stopped, so they went home. But it hadn't stopped. Democrats proceeded to pull bins of ballots out from under a table and count them without Republican oversight, which is a violation of the law.
But technically speaking, Georgia shut down too.
So the question still stands.
Who has the power to shut down presidential election counting across multiple States whenever they want?
Yes yes yes! Co-ordinated. The evidence is there.
1101 wrote:
". . . you were hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks,”
Ouch!
How is that an "ouch" rebuttal. Bad argument 101. Attacking the messenger or person instead of what they witnessed.
you guys don't get it wrote:
1101 wrote:
". . . you were hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks,”
Ouch!
How is that an "ouch" rebuttal. Bad argument 101. Attacking the messenger or person instead of what they witnessed.
The point is she was there only one day, and her level of involvement in the organization/company/event was at a very limited level. So,"ouch!" And no one backed up her claims, to boot. Ouch!
DiscoGary wrote:
I have a question that I’m sure has already been discussed here.
Who has the power to stop vote counting across the country?
In the last two presidential elections Trump was leading, and then the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time. Why? It didn’t stop when Obama got elected. Who has that kind of power? Keep in mind that our elections are federated. Each state is independent, so just because one stops counting or reporting there’s no reason for the others to stop as well.
Is there an answer to this question that doesn’t involve a conspiracy?
Let me guess - A Grand Conspiracy to rule over all conspiracies. Masterminded by the J*ws. Amiright?
I know that you will never tire of your "J*ws are running the world" conspiracy that has long since taken over your brain. But the rest of us are tired of your mental illness Get help.
DiscoGary wrote:
So the question still stands.
Who has the power to shut down presidential election counting across multiple States whenever they want?
No one. That's why it didn't happen. There is actually a very simple explanation for why Trump lost: There are more voters that dislike him than there are that like him. Why is that so hard for people to grasp?
KI52 wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
So the question still stands.
Who has the power to shut down presidential election counting across multiple States whenever they want?
No one. That's why it didn't happen. There is actually a very simple explanation for why Trump lost: There are more voters that dislike him than there are that like him. Why is that so hard for people to grasp?
But it did happen. Twice.
What is the explanation?
you guys don't get it wrote:
1101 wrote:
". . . you were hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks,”
Ouch!
How is that an "ouch" rebuttal. Bad argument 101. Attacking the messenger or person instead of what they witnessed.
Since she was presenting herself as an IT expert, it does matter. In any case, she was possibly the worst witness in history.
1101 wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
I have a question that I’m sure has already been discussed here.
Who has the power to stop vote counting across the country?
In the last two presidential elections Trump was leading, and then the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time. Why? It didn’t stop when Obama got elected. Who has that kind of power? Keep in mind that our elections are federated. Each state is independent, so just because one stops counting or reporting there’s no reason for the others to stop as well.
Is there an answer to this question that doesn’t involve a conspiracy?
Let me guess - A Grand Conspiracy to rule over all conspiracies. Masterminded by the J*ws. Amiright?
I know that you will never tire of your "J*ws are running the world" conspiracy that has long since taken over your brain. But the rest of us are tired of your mental illness Get help.
So you think Jews did it? What is your evidence for that?
Sally finally remembered his DiscoGary password.
L L wrote:
Sally finally remembered his DiscoGary password.
It would seem this issue has not been resolved on this forum. Its an important question and one that no one but me seems to be asking ... anywhere.
So why don't you Democrats pool your collective wisdom and come up with an answer that does not involve a conspiracy.
Oh, and while you're doing your research you need to know that the MSM and social media companies are openly conspiring to suppress all challenges to the election, so you are intentionally being kept in the dark unless you look elsewhere for your news. We now have Soviet style censorship happening in all our major media. Do any of you deny that?
DiscoGary wrote:
L L wrote:
Sally finally remembered his DiscoGary password.
It would seem this issue has not been resolved on this forum. Its an important question and one that no one but me seems to be asking ... anywhere.
So why don't you Democrats pool your collective wisdom and come up with an answer that does not involve a conspiracy.
Oh, and while you're doing your research you need to know that the MSM and social media companies are openly conspiring to suppress all challenges to the election, so you are intentionally being kept in the dark unless you look elsewhere for your news. We now have Soviet style censorship happening in all our major media. Do any of you deny that?
Nope not me. I haven't posted on this thread in a couple of weeks. Don't you find it fascinating that we were told by the "experts" and confirmed by the mainstream media that the Covid vaccine might take "years" to develop and shortly after the election 4 separate drug companies announce they have effective vaccines. Yes, 4 announce very soon after Biden is elected that they have vaccines. So not only is the mainstream media serving as propagandists for the Dem party but we have big pharma engaging in the same political shenanigans to ensure a Trump defeat. How many lives did they kill by holding off on announcing effective vaccines until after the election? Just a travesty.
Trollminator wrote:
Just when I thought my victory lap was ending the 4th mentally ill stooge shows up. Their tears are my champagne. ??
It's because (as you are well aware) that they are all the same person.