Enjoy Igy! After hurry and celebrate before Biden cancels Xmas, LOLz
https://twitter.com/marketman52/status/1342131570816139272?s=21
Trollminator wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Another thing about Manafort (and Stone). Since Mueller identified "danging a pardon" as an example of obstruction of justice, these pardons can be used as evidence of obstruction, and Manafort and Stone can be subpoenaed to testify to the grand jury. And if they lie under oath there, they will be charged with perjury.
It's hard to imagine all those pardons do not motivate the career DOJ people to prosecute Trump. Those prosecutors are human and they know when they are insulted. You could argue that they should set their emotion aside, but Trump did not just insult the DOJ prosecutors. He also insulted our criminal justice system. And that could be a legitimate reason to pursue his prosecution.
I read somewhere Mueller’s team figured the pardons would come and crafted the investigations to consider that. Perhaps FP’a biggest I told you so is not that trump would lose but that Mueller is coming.
They made the confiscation of his assets "civil forfeiture" so that he cannot get them back even if he got a pardon.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/24/weissmann-prosecutor-mueller-investigation-manafort-pardon-reaction-vpx.cnnJust Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
So when the Manhattan DA tried to pursue a mortgage fraud case against Manafort, he was told by the intermediate court that he did not demonstrate the state charges warranted an exception to double jeopardy protections. But now that Manafort was pardoned on this federal charges, can this case be reopened?
I would love it, if so, and can anticipate the state-versus-fed argument.
But, speaking as an attorney in NY, I think the odds are against it. Even though I've done very little work in criminal litigation, I think that even I could put together a pretty good argument in Manafort's favor.
Finally the voting fraud claims make some progress:
Lol only the best for this ultra moral trump admin
https://twitter.com/changeabout1/status/1342205802204037121?s=21
Looks like Ms. Carone is getting the “imminent litigation” treatment from Dominion too.
The money quote from the letter.
“We write to you now because you have positioned yourself as a prominent leader of the ongoing misinformation campaign by pretending to have some sort of ‘insider’s knowledge’ regarding Dominion’s business activities, when in reality you were hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks,”
Raggedman wrote:
Looks like Ms. Carone is getting the “imminent litigation” treatment from Dominion too.
The money quote from the letter.
“We write to you now because you have positioned yourself as a prominent leader of the ongoing misinformation campaign by pretending to have some sort of ‘insider’s knowledge’ regarding Dominion’s business activities, when in reality you were hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks,”
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/dominion-attorneys-send-brutal-letter-to-trump-campaigns-so-called-star-witness-mellissa-carone/
". . . you were hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks,”
Ouch!
I have a question that I’m sure has already been discussed here.
Who has the power to stop vote counting across the country?
In the last two presidential elections Trump was leading, and then the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time. Why? It didn’t stop when Obama got elected. Who has that kind of power? Keep in mind that our elections are federated. Each state is independent, so just because one stops counting or reporting there’s no reason for the others to stop as well.
Is there an answer to this question that doesn’t involve a conspiracy?
DiscoGary wrote:
I have a question that I’m sure has already been discussed here.
Who has the power to stop vote counting across the country?
In the last two presidential elections Trump was leading, and then the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time. Why? It didn’t stop when Obama got elected. Who has that kind of power? Keep in mind that our elections are federated. Each state is independent, so just because one stops counting or reporting there’s no reason for the others to stop as well.
Is there an answer to this question that doesn’t involve a conspiracy?
Determined by the states.
Alan
DiscoGary wrote:
I have a question that I’m sure has already been discussed here.
Who has the power to stop vote counting across the country?
In the last two presidential elections Trump was leading, and then the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time. Why? It didn’t stop when Obama got elected. Who has that kind of power? Keep in mind that our elections are federated. Each state is independent, so just because one stops counting or reporting there’s no reason for the others to stop as well.
Is there an answer to this question that doesn’t involve a conspiracy?
For your education, the election vote counting process doesn’t have quarters or periods like the NBA or NHL. A candidate doesn’t ever lead at any point because it’s a single shot deal for all voters, Dems and Rs don’t continue to battle each other for the win throughout the night. The candidates either win or lose only when the votes are counted. Of course at some point it’s not mathematically possible for the “lagging” candidate to “catch up” in which case you can cal the winner. That trump was actually leading in the states he lost is nothing but an imagined reality.
Also, nice to see you stuck in Nov 3rd like biff. You’ll want to remain there because what’s happened in the real world is going to decimate you emotionally. I’ll let you find out for yourself on Jan 20. Enjoy! ?????????
Just when I thought my victory lap was ending the 4th mentally ill stooge shows up. Their tears are my champagne. ??
DiscoGary wrote:
Trump was leading, and then the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time. Why?
. . .
Is there an answer to this question that doesn’t involve a conspiracy?
Sure. The answer is that you're proceeding from a premise that is contrary to fact. It's not the case that "the vote count reports in ALL the close states stopped at essentially the same time."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/11/04/trump-biden-election-live-updates/...Unless by "essentially the same time" you mean "November"--which I suppose might be accurate in geological terms.
Not on a human time scale, though.
1. Rs have not proven a single case of an illegal vote for Biden
2. Rs are using their vaporware cases to make it harder for Democrats to vote in 2022 and beyond
In other words, making up evidence, then using said made-up evidence to reduce voting.
Some of the worst Americans ever. This shows Rism is fundamentally built on lies and is contrary to democracy.
"After bringing some 60 lawsuits, and even offering financial incentive for information about fraud, Mr. Trump and his allies have failed to prove definitively any case of illegal voting on behalf of their opponent in court — not a single case of an undocumented immigrant casting a ballot, a citizen double voting, nor any credible evidence that legions of the voting dead gave Mr. Biden a victory that wasn’t his."
"In Georgia, Republican legislators have already discussed toughening the state’s rules on voting by mail and on voter identification. In Pennsylvania, Republican lawmakers are considering reversing moves that had made it easier to vote absentee, and their counterparts in Wisconsin are similarly considering tighter restrictions for mail voting, as well as for early voting.
If anything, President Trump has given the movement to limit ballot access new momentum while becoming the singular, charismatic leader it never had."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/politics/republicans-voter-fraud.html
agip wrote:
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1343183582781530112?s=20
That's a great one. I wish the quote could be verified.
I am waiting for Jackson, MS to rename their airport to the "Trump/ Confederacy" airport.
I don't agree with CNN's conclusions based on a recent poll showing an 87% approval rating among Republicans for Trump:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/27/politics/trump-2024-analysis/index.html
87% of the 46.9% that voted for Trump equates to 41% which is similar to his approval ratings. People that strongly approve of Trump are about 30%.
I believe that Nikki Haley would destroy him in the primaries as she is everything that Trump is not.
It's probably a moot point, as like most 78-olds, Trump will be too old to run for president.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
It's probably a moot point, as like most 78-olds, Trump will be too old to run for president.
As is Biden who would have been shellacked by any other person on the Republican ticket.