L L wrote:
Dr. Racket wrote:
Election of 1872
Did CNN cover that?
The back and forth was regarding how we reacted to the official electoral vote count during our lives.
CNN has only been around about 40 years so they didn't cover it. Heck, I am not even sure they had TVs back then.
liberal echo chamber wrote:
You'll love this. Durham is still in play.
Flagpole, I will pardon your rants.
I have one question. You're the save money retire early guy.
Are you willing to trade everything you've worked for for nothing?
Are you willing to give the keys to your house to re-distribute your wealth? Have you signed over your deed yet?
Agenda 2030. You will own nothing and you will be happy (we say so).
OMG, You're right! They're COMMIES! THEY'RE ALL COMMIES.
Just like Obama! That's why nobody has any guns anymore! Just look at how Obama cancelled the 2016 elections so he could remain in power FOR LIFE! Will you people NEVER learn?!?
WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!
THEY are coming!!!!
RUN!!!!!
1101 wrote:
agip wrote:
this is why you should never engage with sally/jane.
he doesn't learn anything, doesnt' absorb anything, and is just trolling you.
You could correct his facts 110 times and he'd come back the next week with the same lie.
Just stop it with him. it's useless and letting the trolls win.
Sally is pure, 100% troll. Her pattern is way too obvious by now for anyone to still think she is anything but.
1) Make ridiculous claim (even one that has gone through the cycle many times before)
2) Have claim proven wrong unequivocally
3) Repeat ridiculous claim
4) Have folks point out that claim was clearly proven to be incorrect
5) Repeat ridiculous claim - now daring anyone to prove them wrong
6) Have folks point out that they are tired of proving this claim wrong
7) Repeat ridiculous claim. Compound it by claiming that no "lib" is able to even address it
8) Have someone shout out, "LOOK AT THE F'ING PROOF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SHOWN TO YOU EIGHT TIMES, YOU MORON!!!"
9) Reply that poster is being rude and that only "libs" are rude
10) Have some "saint" on here very politely point out that the claim is pure BS, completely made up by Breitbart & Co.
11) Thank saint for "finally" providing the answer. Give kudos (saint now reverts back to "Maybe Sally isn't a troll. Maybe she is just a lost soul.")
12) Make new ridiculous claim
13) Have new claim proven wrong unequivocally
14) Repeat new ridiculous claim
. . .
And so on, ad infinitum
Sorry, but this is classic trolling. And there is no way that it is anything other than trolling.
CORRECT
Ignore Sally/Calamity- it drives him mad. He’s a boring troll.
Timothy Foyle wrote:
liberal echo chamber wrote:
You'll love this. Durham is still in play.
Flagpole, I will pardon your rants.
I have one question. You're the save money retire early guy.
Are you willing to trade everything you've worked for for nothing?
Are you willing to give the keys to your house to re-distribute your wealth? Have you signed over your deed yet?
Agenda 2030. You will own nothing and you will be happy (we say so).
OMG, You're right! They're COMMIES! THEY'RE ALL COMMIES.
Just like Obama! That's why nobody has any guns anymore! Just look at how Obama cancelled the 2016 elections so he could remain in power FOR LIFE! Will you people NEVER learn?!?
WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!
THEY are coming!!!!
RUN!!!!!
remember, Social Security led to commumism in this country, as did medicare.
And obama took your guns.
Sally Vix wrote:
You Libs FOR FOUR YEARS!! have been screaming over and over how Trump has repeatedly committed tax fraud but have never provided any evidence. Is the onus on us to prove he HAS NOT committed tax fraud? Yikes!
Oh this is amazing. See how hard little Donnie is trying to keep his tax records away from the prying eyes of tax fraud investigators...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Donald_TrumpGhost of Igloi wrote:
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Calamity, Iggy and Sally won't commit as to whether they think that Trump actually won this election but was cheated from obtaining victory. They post much about fraud, but will they come out and say they believe that Trump really won.
If they refuse to post that because they don't believe it or they are ashamed to admit it, that's a good sign for them. Reality is seeping through.
Give me a break. Biden won the election. You are as half baked as the people you rage against.
I did vent a couple times but I don't think rage is the correct word. It makes me sound like a lunatic. Since 77% of Trump supporters think Trump won, it was a good question. Glad you are not one of those.
alpha of the alphas wrote:
With Moscow Mitch recognizing Biden as President-Elect, it seems all is really over for Trump
Another big difference from four years ago.
The Republican leader of the senate waited for the electoral college to vote to recognize Biden as the winner.
Democrats did not do that in 2016.
Trump was recognized as the winner the day after the election by Obama with no elected Democrats dissenting from that view.
The Mueller investigation that started in 2017 was lead by Republicans.
Jeffrey Rosen will be the 5th person in the role of Attorney General in four years.
"Only the best!"
Wow you really have gotten your feelings hurt. Problem is Trump didn't sell you the real way the election was stolen, aliens, everyone in the know knows it was aliens. You can't prove me wrong either.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Give me a break. Biden won the election. You are as half baked as the people you rage against.
I did vent a couple times but I don't think rage is the correct word. It makes me sound like a lunatic. Since 77% of Trump supporters think Trump won, it was a good question. Glad you are not one of those.
That 77% is Trump's base and since they believe everything he says, you've weakened your argument of not being a lunatic.
Nope, you don't have to prove anything. I am more than willing to leave the tax fraud fight to the courts where it currently is at. You can believe whatever you want. If I had to bet on being able to prove Trump tax fraud or election fraud I would bet on the tax fraud.
Sally Vix wrote:
You Libs FOR FOUR YEARS!! have been screaming over and over how Trump has repeatedly committed tax fraud but have never provided any evidence. Is the onus on us to prove he HAS NOT committed tax fraud? Yikes!
I'm not a lib. I'm a moderate. Let's get that straight.
Secondly:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/nyregion/trump-fraud-investigations-taxes.htmlThink that's it for me Sally. You're not worth the time or energy.
Ah, yes I remember this same argument when Obama became president. Don't forget in addition to the evils you mention you are going to have your guns confiscated, have forced abortions, ... I love the unfounded fear that trumpers live in. The bogey man is under your bed, BOO!
Santa Klauz wrote:
Wow you really have gotten your feelings hurt. Problem is Trump didn't sell you the real way the election was stolen, aliens, everyone in the know knows it was aliens. You can't prove me wrong either.
he he he. Clever.
welp wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
You Libs FOR FOUR YEARS!! have been screaming over and over how Trump has repeatedly committed tax fraud but have never provided any evidence. Is the onus on us to prove he HAS NOT committed tax fraud? Yikes!
I'm not a lib. I'm a moderate. Let's get that straight.
Secondly:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/nyregion/trump-fraud-investigations-taxes.htmlThink that's it for me Sally. You're not worth the time or energy.
I am looking forward to 1/20/21 when some lifelong civil servant at Treasury transmits Trump's tax records to the Congressional committees seeking them. Mnuchin will not be able to interfere any longer. Over at DOJ, an unredacted copy of The Mueller Report will be released and we will all know who Individual 1 is. SDNY will get that right away and I suspect Mazars and Deutschebank will transmit all subpoenaed records to the NYS and Manhattan prosecutors at 12:01PM Eastern Time.
Welcome to the third world, thanks to Trump:
“Not my President and never will be,” she wrote, referring to Biden. “The American people aren’t fools. We know you cheated to win and we’ll never accept these results. Fair elections we can accept but cheating to win; never. It’s not over yet. So thankful President Trump has a backbone and refuses to concede. President Trump should declare martial law as recommended by General Flynn.”
She's running for governor of Virginia.
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
welp wrote:
I'm not a lib. I'm a moderate. Let's get that straight.
Secondly:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/nyregion/trump-fraud-investigations-taxes.htmlThink that's it for me Sally. You're not worth the time or energy.
I am looking forward to 1/20/21 when some lifelong civil servant at Treasury transmits Trump's tax records to the Congressional committees seeking them. Mnuchin will not be able to interfere any longer. Over at DOJ, an unredacted copy of The Mueller Report will be released and we will all know who Individual 1 is. SDNY will get that right away and I suspect Mazars and Deutschebank will transmit all subpoenaed records to the NYS and Manhattan prosecutors at 12:01PM Eastern Time.
Trump will NEVER be committed of tax fraud. Are you Libs too dense not to realize that Trump did not do his tax returns??? Tax attorneys who are partners in the biggest firms in NYC and earn millions annually are the ones who did his tax returns. Are they really going to sacrifice their careers so some slob can save a few hundred thousand? THINK!!!
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
https://twitter.com/BarbarianCap/status/1338646331376676865
Please tell us you're not this stupid.
Dr. Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
That's not true at all. There will always be a yahoo or two that says something like that, but Democrats didn't do what these Trumpers are doing now. Get serious.
Should I go slower? What kind of level do you need Flagpole, 3rd grade? 1st grade maybe?
LL said "The official electoral vote count in December has never made news like this before." The electoral vote was heavily featured in the news just four years ago, which by the way actually had unfaithful electors.
You're lucky I only went back as far as the last election in 2016.
I don't disagree that there was news around the electoral vote in past elections and that we hear "noise" about objections and unfaithful electors but I just think so many more are paying attention to the noise because of the lack of a concession.
Sally Vix wrote:
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
I am looking forward to 1/20/21 when some lifelong civil servant at Treasury transmits Trump's tax records to the Congressional committees seeking them. Mnuchin will not be able to interfere any longer. Over at DOJ, an unredacted copy of The Mueller Report will be released and we will all know who Individual 1 is. SDNY will get that right away and I suspect Mazars and Deutschebank will transmit all subpoenaed records to the NYS and Manhattan prosecutors at 12:01PM Eastern Time.
Trump will NEVER be committed of tax fraud. Are you Libs too dense not to realize that Trump did not do his tax returns??? Tax attorneys who are partners in the biggest firms in NYC and earn millions annually are the ones who did his tax returns. Are they really going to sacrifice their careers so some slob can save a few hundred thousand? THINK!!!
I suspect the word you wanted was "convicted" rather than "committed". But even with that substitution, your argument is weak. First, his taxes were largely handled by accountants, not lawyers. Second, Trump actually has trouble getting the largest, most respected law firms to work for him. One reason is that he is cheap and tries to stiff service providers, including lawyers, on their bills. Another reason is that he doesn't follow advice.
A third issue with your statement is that Trump still could be convicted even though the forms were filled out by a service provider. It depends on the underlying facts regarding what Trump knew and what instructions he gave.