Sally Vix wrote:
Joe Biden might have to use his presidential pardon powers sooner than you would think. Clown son Hunter is under federal investigation for shenanigans with his taxes.
Still desperately hanging on to hope huh. That’s great, it’ll just translate into another loss for you. Hang in there! LOLz what a desperate loser ??????????
agip wrote:
nonequals wrote:
Trump is an amazingly bad person. But we knew those were around (in this large country) before Trumpism. Ditto many Republican politicians in the age of Trump.
What is "new" - and the root of all political danger - is that freakin' ROUGHLY HALF of this freakin' country are OK with it. I'm a 53 year old conservative. I never thought I'd see anything like this. Politicians going lower, and lower, and lower, and yet losing little, OR NO, support. My g**.
Very, very hard to be optimistic. Maybe Trump losing his pulpit improves things a lot. Maybe he hasn't normalized pathological lying and shamelessness as much as I fear. On the other hand, he might have. I certainly think that there has been massive erosion. Can it be fixed? Do demographics save us? Are there far fewer current and future young Trumpers? I sure as hell hope so.
trump is the most gifted politician of the last 40 or so years. At least top 3.
as long as he is alive and out of jail, the nation is at peril.
but the flip side is that no one else has the great skills of trump so when he's gone things may quiet down quickly.
Much depends on what trump does over the rest of his life.
He's perhaps the most influential person in modern American history.
Absolutely not, he’s a terrible politician. He fkn lost bigly, how’s he even close to top 3?
Trollminator wrote:
Gina wrote:
True but the same token those are also reasons Trump LOST big.
The way I see it, he was going to lose the popular vote either way, but could have easily beaten Biden with just a small tweak to his approach, little pivot back from the extreme right, or if COVID never happened. He really blew it, but only because he rallied hard for Biden. There was an amazing turnout for trump, but he just fired up too many Dems. Anyone know the % of Rs that voted for house and senate Rs but not for trump?
Agree and that is why he is not the greatest or one of the greatest politicians in the last 40 years, he blew it. Shot himself in the foot.
Trollminator wrote:
Anyone know the % of Rs that voted for house and senate Rs but not for trump?
I have been looking hard for this info and have not had success. Would be very grateful to get good data.
agip wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Lol - it's Groundhog Day everyday for these guys.. stuck in a loop of losing. I drink their tears with pleasure.
the fun part is that Miller is playing the game - he knows the fraud charges are false and stupid.
So Miller is completely thrown when Dobbs says things that imply Dobbs thinks the fraud charges are real. Miller has no idea what to do in the face of utter irrationality and violation of the con's rules.
It's great TV and politics.
Total insanity. The two sides will carry on living on different planets. That part of trumpism is going to remain very strong.
kibitzer wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Anyone know the % of Rs that voted for house and senate Rs but not for trump?
I have been looking hard for this info and have not had success. Would be very grateful to get good data.
Me too. If it’s something like 5% I think that would definitely help explain the giant gap.
Calamity Joe wrote:
Gina wrote:
Well imagine that, Eric Trump & bend over Biff get it spectacularly WRONG yet again ?
Surprised? Of course not, bend over Biff is a con artists dream, a clown.
Biff was spectacularly right predicting Trump wins in 2016 and you were spectacularly predicting Hillary wins in 2016. You might consider yourself a clown and hide in a corner to not embarrass yourself further.
Sally, remember this one? ???? well you got your teeth kicked in.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
agip wrote:
How about Rasmussen? You like Rasmussen, right?
Rasmussen Reports/Pulse Opinion Research
Sept. 1-2
Ohio
Trump 47%
Biden 51%
Biden +4%
I am focusing on other metrics which I listed in an earlier post. I will only refer to Rasmussen when they compare Trump & Obama approvals, otherwise I don't like them either.
I like the Trafalgar Group (who challenged Nate Silver to a 2020 POTUS prediction contest) and also follow a FL based pollster, Richard Baris (Peoples_Pundit on Twitter).
I am feeling very confident about my 313 EV call for Trump.
Bahahahahaha!! ??????
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
trump is the most gifted politician of the last 40 or so years. At least top 3.
as long as he is alive and out of jail, the nation is at peril.
but the flip side is that no one else has the great skills of trump so when he's gone things may quiet down quickly.
Much depends on what trump does over the rest of his life.
He's perhaps the most influential person in modern American history.
Absolutely not, he’s a terrible politician. He fkn lost bigly, how’s he even close to top 3?
Blatant election fraud/cheating isn’t winning.
18 states have joined TX.
kibitzer wrote:
Flybang musher wrote:
And he registered another one of my names, god bless his little pea-picking heart.
Well, that's easily remedied, no? Just register your *own* name, and you're done in one.
No one would accuse me of being particularly Internet-savvy, yet even I figured that one out.
I see what you're saying, Kibbutzie. Kind of outfox him using his own registration strategy. High-tech cyber-maneuvers behind the scenes.
He's still a poncey blowhard, though, isn't he? How do we fix that? Sadly, all the internet-savvy in the world can't fix that.
Hmmmm... I wonder which states those are?
Trollminator wrote:
Calamity Joe wrote:
Biff was spectacularly right predicting Trump wins in 2016 and you were spectacularly predicting Hillary wins in 2016. You might consider yourself a clown and hide in a corner to not embarrass yourself further.
Sally, remember this one? ???? well you got your teeth kicked in.
Poor Sally loser troll.
But let me also I NEVER predicted Hilary would win in 2016 and I challenge Sally to prove otherwise. He won’t because he can’t.
Sally - ENJOY YOUR LOSS ?
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
18 states have joined TX.
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1336777382410194946
Biff good luck with that ?
I LOVE that you’re setting yourself up for even more disappointment.
Pal, ENJOY YOUR LOSS ?
How did the dems get so many trump appointed judges to rip to shreds the election fraud cases before them. Brilliant however they were able to pull that off.
agip wrote:
agip wrote:
depends on how you value politicians...but none of us has seen the devotion of the magas in our lifetimes. Maybe FDR had some of that? Reagan a little. But Trump captured the hearts of his people. Can you imagine flying 'Bob Dole' flags? 'McCain' flags on your boat?
He's spectacularly good at what he does.
But sure, he only brought along the magas and a a few million hispanic and black men. Doesn't mean he's not a brilliant politician. No one else could have done what he has done. I mean he utterly took over his party and reversed many of its positions. Free trade? Bad. Wars? Bad. Big Tent? Bad. Remarkable.
Forgot one: NATO? Suddenly bad.
And look at this -- he's convinced a dozen states to seek to end democracy in America.
No other politician could have done that. They would have been laughed out of the RNC.
But Trump gets it done with just the hint of a mean tweet.
You tell me that doesn't make him a phenomenal, perhaps once in a generation politician.
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1336774528777785345?s=20
I'm telling you that doesn't make him a good politician. As someone said earlier, it makes him a cult leader. Big difference.