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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/joe-digenova-attorney-trump-campaign-chris-krebs-violence/index.html
DeGenovo is obviously frustrated by the fraud the neo-leftarians have inflicted upon the god-fearing people of America. The liberals have been despotic, trying to promulgate civil war for years, and now they pretend to be upset when someone says "bring it on."
Flybang mash wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/joe-digenova-attorney-trump-campaign-chris-krebs-violence/index.htmlDeGenovo is obviously frustrated by the fraud the neo-leftarians have inflicted upon the god-fearing people of America. The liberals have been despotic, trying to promulgate civil war for years, and now they pretend to be upset when someone says "bring it on."
Lol... can you imagine this guy being on your legal team? He looks like a worst possible case Ron Jeremy.
Flybang mash wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/joe-digenova-attorney-trump-campaign-chris-krebs-violence/index.htmlDeGenovo is obviously frustrated by the fraud the neo-leftarians have inflicted upon the god-fearing people of America. The liberals have been despotic, trying to promulgate civil war for years, and now they pretend to be upset when someone says "bring it on."
Soooo, when you are frustrated you call for violence? So this is where we are headed? You don't get what you want in American politics and the next step is advocating violence? Aren't you the same lot that opposed the "looting and rioting YOU associate with the BLM movement?"
Before you try and flip it, I think ANYBODY who decides to loot and riot in the name of a cause should be arrested and jailed. However, 99.9% of BLM protests have been peaceful. Republicans are OK with this yahoo calling for the head of a bi-partisan public servant who told the truth....?
Flybang mash wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/joe-digenova-attorney-trump-campaign-chris-krebs-violence/index.htmlDeGenovo is obviously frustrated by the fraud the neo-leftarians have inflicted upon the god-fearing people of America. The liberals have been despotic, trying to promulgate civil war for years, and now they pretend to be upset when someone says "bring it on."
I can no longer tell the difference between outright trolling and crazy bangmashminded far right thinking.
Maybe its come to be a combination of both. Either way, not good.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
I can no longer tell the difference between outright trolling and crazy bangmashminded far right thinking.
Maybe its come to be a combination of both. Either way, not good.
^ 100% agree
This is Trump's legacy. The nonsense that many conservatives either believe, say or are complicit to because they don't talk out against it, is so close to the way people used to troll that they've almost become indistinguishable.
Trump's presidency is one giant troll job. Would it surprise anybody if the day he leaves office he admits that he was just trolling everybody because he wanted to show how silly American politics (and Americans) are for buying into his clearly outrageously over-manufactured nonsense?!
welp wrote:
Dan Kahneman wrote:
I can no longer tell the difference between outright trolling and crazy bangmashminded far right thinking.
Maybe its come to be a combination of both. Either way, not good.
^ 100% agree
This is Trump's legacy. The nonsense that many conservatives either believe, say or are complicit to because they don't talk out against it, is so close to the way people used to troll that they've almost become indistinguishable.
Trump's presidency is one giant troll job. Would it surprise anybody if the day he leaves office he admits that he was just trolling everybody because he wanted to show how silly American politics (and Americans) are for buying into his clearly outrageously over-manufactured nonsense?!
it will be so killingly frustrating when the Rs start denying Trumpism ever happened.
But they will deny it, and they will be deeply offended when reminded of their individual support of Trumpism.
We can see in the obvious lack of shame that the Rs will get there as soon as Trump's off the stage for good.
Which might be a while, sure.
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1333564760063930371?s=20Green shoots of bipartisanship
I hope this continues and becomes a powerful force, leading Mitch and Schumer from the center.
CASE IN POINT … HAPPENING TODAY … BIPARTISAN COVID RELIEF BILL COMING OUT … MANCHIN, COLLINS, MURKOWSKI, ROMNEY and Sens. BILL CASSIDY (R-La.), MARK WARNER (D-Va.) and ANGUS KING (I-Maine) will hold a news conference at 10 a.m. at the Senate Swamp. They say House members will be joining, but as of about 5:30 this morning, they had no names to share.
agip wrote:
welp wrote:
^ 100% agree
This is Trump's legacy. The nonsense that many conservatives either believe, say or are complicit to because they don't talk out against it, is so close to the way people used to troll that they've almost become indistinguishable.
Trump's presidency is one giant troll job. Would it surprise anybody if the day he leaves office he admits that he was just trolling everybody because he wanted to show how silly American politics (and Americans) are for buying into his clearly outrageously over-manufactured nonsense?!
it will be so killingly frustrating when the Rs start denying Trumpism ever happened.
But they will deny it, and they will be deeply offended when reminded of their individual support of Trumpism.
We can see in the obvious lack of shame that the Rs will get there as soon as Trump's off the stage for good.
Which might be a while, sure.
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1333564760063930371?s=20
Great article by Brownstein comparing todays Republicans to the Republicans of the McCarthy era. Actually Bill Kristol feels the McCarthy era Republicans were more ethical and braver than today's Republicans.
There are many similarities between McCarthy and Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/gop-silence-trump-false-election-claims-mccarthy/index.html
"McCarthy pushed himself to the head of this parade with a speech in Wheeling, West Virginia, on February 9, 1950, in which he claimed to hold a list of 205 "active members of the Communist Party" in the State Department. At other points, he changed the number of alleged Communists to 57, but the speech set the pattern for the next four years of his fierce reign: sweeping and shifting accusations, the immediate deployment of new charges anytime one was disproved and the constant allegation that his critics were advancing (either knowingly or unwittingly) the Communist cause."
https://www.thenewstribune.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article244142517.htmlDan Kahneman wrote:
Great article by Brownstein comparing todays Republicans to the Republicans of the McCarthy era. Actually Bill Kristol feels the McCarthy era Republicans were more ethical and braver than today's Republicans.
There are many similarities between McCarthy and Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/gop-silence-trump-false-election-claims-mccarthy/index.html"McCarthy pushed himself to the head of this parade with a speech in Wheeling, West Virginia, on February 9, 1950, in which he claimed to hold a list of 205 "active members of the Communist Party" in the State Department. At other points, he changed the number of alleged Communists to 57, but the speech set the pattern for the next four years of his fierce reign: sweeping and shifting accusations, the immediate deployment of new charges anytime one was disproved and the constant allegation that his critics were advancing (either knowingly or unwittingly) the Communist cause."
spoooooooo wrote:
https://www.thenewstribune.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/article244142517.html
This piece is dated JULY.
It is now DECEMBER. Things have changed.
Try to keep up.
"Forget the gaffes, what about Biden's lies?"
If lying *truly* bothered you, you would not have supported someone who made more than twenty thousand DOCUMENTED false or misleading statements in less than four years in the Oval Office.
Flagpole wrote:
Dan Kahneman wrote:
This is a great question. Is Trump just an outright liar or delusional and a liar?
I don't see Trump as simply a straight forward conman. That would be nice if that was the case but his psychological makeup is a bit more darker than simply a conman.
CORRECT! While he IS a conman, that's not all. He has serious issues from serious Narcissism to inability to empathize, and on and on. Psychotic, mentally ill, evil...nothing bad is off the table for this menace.
Yes Trump does have serious emotional and cognitive issues even beyond his easily recognized deficits. It fairly easily recognized that he is a lying conman and that he is severely narcissistic and he does have psychopathology (or more accurately sociopathic - can knows others feelings and reactions and he can use that knowledge for his own benefit but he can't identify with or feel what they feel- lack of empathy). Its also pretty apparent to everyone that he has delusions of grandeur - gold plated penthouse, "I'm amazing at everything", and the idea that everyone should bow down to him, the emperor.
But to have a fuller and more nuanced understanding of trump and his behavior is to understand that he has all the basic characteristics and thinking patterns of a paranoid personality disorder (not paranoid schizophrenic). Its a way of thinking and feeling that is highlighted by:
(1) Projection - some of his projections of his own failings and misdeeds on to others have almost been comical
(2) Externalization - that's why he can so easily turn to attack without hesitation, its the way he normally conceptualizes his world.
(3) Vigilance - to any signs of being cheated or betrayed, a constant readiness for war.
(4) Rigidity and over focus on limited thoughts and perceptions - he always repeats the same ideas and in his thinking he can easily ignore facts that don't fit.
(5) Black and white thinking - people are either his enemies or his friends.
When I listen to Trump, if I didn't know any background, I would believe that poor guy had been cheated out of an election. That's because Trump has evidenced an increasingly loose grasp of reality. His over focus any minute sign of being cheated, crowds out perception of reality for Trump. He is starting to really believe he was cheated out of winning. This reality distortion has gotten much worse with the election. His anger and sullenness has increased commensurately.
This is concerning for the nation.
That's my take anyway.
It's true that saying that Trump is a liar is tricky...because he has the remarkable ability to convince himself that whatever he wants to be true...is true.
It's served him well in sales - his confidence is compelling. If you aren't sure about a deal but he comes in and tells you with 100% of his being that it's the best deal in the history of dealmaking, since we climbed out of the primeval oceans...it's easier to give him a check.
But his success at sales has wrecked his contact with reality. He has stopped trying to delinneate what is real and what is false.
And he has brought tens of millions of people along with him. Easy to see how nazism started, now.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Flybang mash wrote:
DeGenovo is obviously frustrated by the fraud the neo-leftarians have inflicted upon the god-fearing people of America. The liberals have been despotic, trying to promulgate civil war for years, and now they pretend to be upset when someone says "bring it on."
I can no longer tell the difference between outright trolling and crazy bangmashminded far right thinking.
Maybe its come to be a combination of both. Either way, not good.
Yup ^
Not too long ago it would be obvious that anyone posting what Flybang posted was trying to be funny. Now? Who the heck knows? As the commentator on that video said, "There is no bottom" among the Trumpettes.