johnny99 wrote:
The Trump Presidential Campaign asserts that Pennsylvania’s 2020 election was unfair.
But as lawyer Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign “doesn’t plead fraud. . . . [T]his is
not a fraud case.”
Yup. It is all about throwing out legally cast votes, but only in certain areas where the votes tossed out can swing the count towards Trump. Remember that Trump has screamed, "THE ELECTION IS RIGGED!" And he is the one trying to rig it.
inky that wrote:
yes yes yes yes wrote:
the bible was written before zoom meetings were a thing. HEck, even dumbo uses twitter (and don't we know it).
Zoom would qualify as a gathering. Gathering in person is anywhere in the Bible.
Mass church gathers are nothing more than filling up of church coffers.
Wrong. Zoom is not a gathering according to the Bible. Learn your scripture, as He intended you to.
Flybang mash wrote:
Wrong. Zoom is not a gathering according to the Bible.
Please list the verse in the Bible that mentions Zoom. And meeting some in realtime over the internet is a gathering called a virtual gathering. Since God can be at all places at once, God can be next to every people gathering to pray over Zoom at the same time. God is the original Zoom.
inky that wrote:
Flybang mash wrote:
Wrong. Zoom is not a gathering according to the Bible.
Please list the verse in the Bible that mentions Zoom. And meeting some in realtime over the internet is a gathering called a virtual gathering. Since God can be at all places at once, God can be next to every people gathering to pray over Zoom at the same time. God is the original Zoom.
I think it's pretty clear that what I was saying is that Zoom would not qualify as a gathering as that term is used in the Bible. Bible requires in-person.
Obviously I was not saying there is a Bible passage like "Ye shall not useth Zoom for church attendance, or ye shall be smote."
Flybang mash wrote:
Wrong.
Remember that the Bible is the word of God as interpreted by men as they decided to interpret what they think they "heard." God didn't write anything down (Moses wrote the 10 commandements as he "heard" them) and God did not speak verbally. People hear the words in their head. God did telepathy, someone much easier for a supreme being to do than to waste time talking.
Flybang mash wrote:
inky that wrote:
Zoom would qualify as a gathering. Gathering in person is anywhere in the Bible.
Mass church gathers are nothing more than filling up of church coffers.
Wrong. Zoom is not a gathering according to the Bible. Learn your scripture, as He intended you to.
Risking the health and safety of the vulnerable and elderly does not seem like a very Christian thing to do. What would have Christ done?
Flybang mash wrote:
Obviously I was not saying there is a Bible passage like "Ye shall not useth Zoom for church attendance, or ye shall be smote."
Yet you were. God can be everywhere at once. Just like Zoom.
inky that wrote:
Flybang mash wrote:
Obviously I was not saying there is a Bible passage like "Ye shall not useth Zoom for church attendance, or ye shall be smote."
Yet you were. God can be everywhere at once. Just like Zoom.
No, I wasn't. It's pretty clear what my point was. I just constructed an awkward sentence.
It doesn't matter how analogous you think god and zoom are. The Bible says what its says. That's the law of the land.
inky that wrote:
Flybang mash wrote:
Wrong. Zoom is not a gathering according to the Bible.
Please list the verse in the Bible that mentions Zoom. And meeting some in realtime over the internet is a gathering called a virtual gathering. Since God can be at all places at once, God can be next to every people gathering to pray over Zoom at the same time. God is the original Zoom.
From the Gospel of Thomas (I know it’s not canon)
"The Kingdom of God is inside/within you (and all about you), not in buildings/mansions of wood and stone. (When I am gone) Split a piece of wood and I am there, lift the/a stone and you will find me."
Sounds like Jesus would be fine with Zoom to me.
yes yes yes yes wrote:
Flybang mash wrote:
Wrong. Zoom is not a gathering according to the Bible. Learn your scripture, as He intended you to.
Risking the health and safety of the vulnerable and elderly does not seem like a very Christian thing to do. What would have Christ done?
There is risk in everything. A gathering created a risk to health and safety before Covid. What you are referring to is an unquantifiable increased risk.
Christ would have abrogated any law that prohibited the flock from gathering.
Flybang mash wrote:
yes yes yes yes wrote:
Risking the health and safety of the vulnerable and elderly does not seem like a very Christian thing to do. What would have Christ done?
There is risk in everything. A gathering created a risk to health and safety before Covid. What you are referring to is an unquantifiable increased risk.
Christ would have abrogated any law that prohibited the flock from gathering.
I think you are missing the point of his teachings and his devine benevolence. He would foster a disdain for literalists like you who get caught up in the appearances of things and miss the underlying meaning. And the meaning is to sacrifice what is easy and self-serving for the greater good.
Shame on you. I believe you would do yourself a favor to examine your motives and beliefs.
Flybang mash wrote:
The Bible says what its says. That's the law of the land.
Well, of course the Bible *isn't* literally the law of the land. (BTW some of this recent trollage of yours--not all, but some--is actually kinda funny. It's good shtick.) But I don't think you were really meaning that anyway.
And, as we're told in Matthew 6:6, gathering in a crowd to pray is *not* correct: "But you, when you pray, enter into a private room; and after shutting the door, pray to your Father Who is in secret; and your Father Who sees in secret shall reward you openly."
In any case, here is some more of what "the Bible says":
1 Kings 7:23--Pi equals three!
Judges 1:19--"God" can't beat iron chariots!
Matthew 27:52-53--ZOMBIES!
Flybang mash wrote:
Christ would have abrogated any law that prohibited the flock from gathering.
Now you are claiming to speak for God herself. Such blasphemy* is strictly forbidden by the Bible.
*The act of claiming an attribute of God.
You have to be the worst theological scholar I have ever come across. It is truly painful watching you try to argue your point.
highhoppingworm wrote:
You have to be the worst theological scholar I have ever come across. It is truly painful watching you try to argue your point.
It's trolling, actually. Try to relax and enjoy it.
Sure, Jan wrote:
highhoppingworm wrote:
You have to be the worst theological scholar I have ever come across. It is truly painful watching you try to argue your point.
It's trolling, actually. Try to relax and enjoy it.
I sincerely hope you are right.
highhoppingworm wrote:
You have to be the worst theological scholar I have ever come across. It is truly painful watching you try to argue your point.
I think you are exaggerating. I'll bet if you sat and thought about it, you could come up with 3-4 theological scholars worse than I am. Raphael "Ted" Cruz? Pope Ratzinger? Ken Ham? Those guys suck at theologizing.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
47 USB sticks missing in PA.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/BvM9e_5WYNkhttps://thebl.com/politics/pennsylvania-fraud-47-usb-cards-with-thousands-of-bits-of-election-data-missing.html
Why is Trump's lawyer lying to you?
Jenna Ellis, commenting on the Trump campaign's PA litigation: "The activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud."
Rudy Giuliani, admitting that the Trump campaign isn't even claiming fraud in PA:
But as lawyer Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign “doesn’t plead fraud. . . . [T]his is
not a fraud case.”
They both can't be true. Why does Jenna Ellis want you to believe that there are allegations of massive fraud (her words) when Rudy not only has no evidence fraud but isn't even claiming it?
Here's the answer: they are liars, and if you really believe them then you're getting seriously played.
Biff - ENJOY YOUR LOSS ?????