head of the GOP in a Michigan county:
The worst part of the GOP strategy is I've spent a decade supporting GOP laws to tighten up our elections. Voter ID, signing the book, etc. I've pushed back against Dem claims that we Repubs were trying to disenfranchise people. Now here we are, trying to disenfranchise people
Fat hurts wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Serious q - what are your thoughts on why trump has held no rallies since losing? This is actually not making sense to me.
He has been unbelievably quiet overall. There has never been a time in his presidency when Trump has made fewer public utterances in front of cameras.
I think he's just not sure what to do. He's not sure how a rally would help him because he doesn't have a strategy. Right now he's just trying to see how things play out with court cases and then arm-twisting legislators.
He's hoping some larger strategy will emerge. But if it doesn't, he will flee to exile.
He would have to trot out on that stage as a loser. He's not a tough guy. He's the most thin-skinned person I have ever even heard of.
It will be interesting to see what happens. I have a hard time seeing how he could flee to exile. If he did though, it would be just like him to leave his criminal family behind to be charged and imprisoned. Can't wait to see what happens.
There are some sick people out there of every political persuasion, but the Trump people take the cake.
This sore loser couldn't help himself when he saw two women protesting against Trump, so he went up to them and breathed on them. Got himself arrested and charged with assault. If he's got any family, they must be so proud of him.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/us/man-arrested-trump-golf-club/index.html
johnny99 wrote:
There are some sick people out there of every political persuasion, but the Trump people take the cake.
This sore loser couldn't help himself when he saw two women protesting against Trump, so he went up to them and breathed on them. Got himself arrested and charged with assault. If he's got any family, they must be so proud of him.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/us/man-arrested-trump-golf-club/index.html
No one is reporting that this is the same guy, but the name, geographic area, and age generally match. This guy was convicted for ripping of the government to the tune of about $700,000 in disability payments that he received while he was actually working. Another nice, law abiding Trumper.
https://www.loudountimes.com/news/man-works-while-accepting-benefits-lies-to-government/article_2cd012de-95ad-5750-a072-0ae758b480b1.htmljohnny99 wrote:
There are some sick people out there of every political persuasion, but the Trump people take the cake.
This sore loser couldn't help himself when he saw two women protesting against Trump, so he went up to them and breathed on them. Got himself arrested and charged with assault. If he's got any family, they must be so proud of him.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/us/man-arrested-trump-golf-club/index.html
Yeah, that guy is a loser and a dumb@ss. When the women said he assaulted them, he said "I breathed on you", clearly being to stupid to know that that was against the law. Moron.
Trollminator wrote:
Does FL count as exile?
No. Trump will go to a foreign nation where he can trade on his national security secrets. Hopefully, the Deep State didn't tell him too much.
Flagpole wrote:
I have a hard time seeing how he could flee to exile.
Do you mean how would he physically flee and get away with it?
Since he's still the president he could just say, "Pack all my stuff and fly me to Istanbul".
I realize it's hard to imagine that happening since it would be so obvious. But would these people really disobey a lawful order from the president just because they knew he was going to exile?
So CNN is saying that the Sidney Powell voting machine conspiracy is too crazy even for Trump. They are saying that Powell got dumped from the legal team because her Newsmax appearance was too out there.
Bull puckey. There is nothing too crazy for the Trump team if they think it will work.
This all has to do with Georgia. On Newsmax, Powell went after Georgia's Republican Secretary of State and Georgia's governor Brian Kemp. I'd be willing to bet that Kemp was on the phone with Mitch and maybe even with Trump. Kemp can blow up the senate election if he wants. He can play this out and pit Republicans against each other.
Mitch would never play along with that. He'd go out and declare that Trump should concede before he would risk losing those Georgia senate races.
That's what this was all about. Powell was dumb enough to hit Kemp. And Kemp hit back hard.
Fat hurts wrote:
So CNN is saying that the Sidney Powell voting machine conspiracy is too crazy even for Trump. They are saying that Powell got dumped from the legal team because her Newsmax appearance was too out there.
Bull puckey. There is nothing too crazy for the Trump team if they think it will work.
This all has to do with Georgia. On Newsmax, Powell went after Georgia's Republican Secretary of State and Georgia's governor Brian Kemp. I'd be willing to bet that Kemp was on the phone with Mitch and maybe even with Trump. Kemp can blow up the senate election if he wants. He can play this out and pit Republicans against each other.
Mitch would never play along with that. He'd go out and declare that Trump should concede before he would risk losing those Georgia senate races.
That's what this was all about. Powell was dumb enough to hit Kemp. And Kemp hit back hard.
Let me make it clear that the above is conjecture. It's a very educated guess. Kemp would never take this stuff lying down and he has a ton of political power right now.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have a hard time seeing how he could flee to exile.
Do you mean how would he physically flee and get away with it?
Since he's still the president he could just say, "Pack all my stuff and fly me to Istanbul".
I realize it's hard to imagine that happening since it would be so obvious. But would these people really disobey a lawful order from the president just because they knew he was going to exile?
I actually don't know. I also don't know if the US would allow a former President to stay in exile. Seems very risky to the US. I have to believe we would demand his return and if they don't that we go forcefully get him.
Fat hurts wrote:
So CNN is saying that the Sidney Powell voting machine conspiracy is too crazy even for Trump. They are saying that Powell got dumped from the legal team because her Newsmax appearance was too out there.
Bull puckey. There is nothing too crazy for the Trump team if they think it will work.
This all has to do with Georgia. On Newsmax, Powell went after Georgia's Republican Secretary of State and Georgia's governor Brian Kemp. I'd be willing to bet that Kemp was on the phone with Mitch and maybe even with Trump. Kemp can blow up the senate election if he wants. He can play this out and pit Republicans against each other.
Mitch would never play along with that. He'd go out and declare that Trump should concede before he would risk losing those Georgia senate races.
That's what this was all about. Powell was dumb enough to hit Kemp. And Kemp hit back hard.
Plausible. I would like to know for sure.
Fat hurts wrote:
So CNN is saying that the Sidney Powell voting machine conspiracy is too crazy even for Trump. They are saying that Powell got dumped from the legal team because her Newsmax appearance was too out there.
Bull puckey. There is nothing too crazy for the Trump team if they think it will work.
This all has to do with Georgia. On Newsmax, Powell went after Georgia's Republican Secretary of State and Georgia's governor Brian Kemp. I'd be willing to bet that Kemp was on the phone with Mitch and maybe even with Trump. Kemp can blow up the senate election if he wants. He can play this out and pit Republicans against each other.
Mitch would never play along with that. He'd go out and declare that Trump should concede before he would risk losing those Georgia senate races.
That's what this was all about. Powell was dumb enough to hit Kemp. And Kemp hit back hard.
Chris Christie and Tucker Carlson both have Trump's ear and when they went after Powell, he decided to give her the boot. Trump didn't suddenly become smart.
Trump will never be convicted of anything. With 40% of the population fanatically supporting him, it will be impossible to put together a jury that would vote 12-0 against him.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So CNN is saying that the Sidney Powell voting machine conspiracy is too crazy even for Trump. They are saying that Powell got dumped from the legal team because her Newsmax appearance was too out there.
Bull puckey. There is nothing too crazy for the Trump team if they think it will work.
This all has to do with Georgia. On Newsmax, Powell went after Georgia's Republican Secretary of State and Georgia's governor Brian Kemp. I'd be willing to bet that Kemp was on the phone with Mitch and maybe even with Trump. Kemp can blow up the senate election if he wants. He can play this out and pit Republicans against each other.
Mitch would never play along with that. He'd go out and declare that Trump should concede before he would risk losing those Georgia senate races.
That's what this was all about. Powell was dumb enough to hit Kemp. And Kemp hit back hard.
Chris Christie and Tucker Carlson both have Trump's ear and when they went after Powell, he decided to give her the boot. Trump didn't suddenly become smart.
Trump will never be convicted of anything. With 40% of the population fanatically supporting him, it will be impossible to put together a jury that would vote 12-0 against him.
I think you could find 12 impartial New Yorkers who would vote to convict on state crimes.
Gina wrote:
agip wrote:
I just heard a somewhat convincing take on the election, a positive for the Republican Party.
The idea is that the Bush R party has been pushed aside because it was the party of endless war and trade deals that cost US jobs.
Trump has saved the R party by keeping the guns, anti-abortion and religion, but excising the wars and trade deals.
In a way, they think this puts the R party in a good place going forward.
They say the downballot success of the Rs means that people hate DJT but they like this new idea of the R party. Get rid of DJT and his excesses, but keep the core new definition of the R party.
Bullsh!t.
Everyone I know who supported the Republican invasion of Iraq supports Trump today and everyone I know who opposed the war opposes Trump today.
Use your memory folks.
Agreed. The party of, "Grab your AR-15 and put on your pseudo-special ops gear and head for the state capital" just HATES those wars.
No.
Sincerely,
A Trump-Hating Veteran of Those Wars
Fat hurts wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Chris Christie and Tucker Carlson both have Trump's ear and when they went after Powell, he decided to give her the boot. Trump didn't suddenly become smart.
Trump will never be convicted of anything. With 40% of the population fanatically supporting him, it will be impossible to put together a jury that would vote 12-0 against him.
I think you could find 12 impartial New Yorkers who would vote to convict on state crimes.
The odds are that there will be some fanatical Trump supporters in the jury pool and unless they've posted pro-Trump sh*t on social media, it will be impossible to weed them out and it only takes one to get a hung jury.
johnny99 wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
There are some sick people out there of every political persuasion, but the Trump people take the cake.
This sore loser couldn't help himself when he saw two women protesting against Trump, so he went up to them and breathed on them. Got himself arrested and charged with assault. If he's got any family, they must be so proud of him.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/us/man-arrested-trump-golf-club/index.htmlNo one is reporting that this is the same guy, but the name, geographic area, and age generally match. This guy was convicted for ripping of the government to the tune of about $700,000 in disability payments that he received while he was actually working. Another nice, law abiding Trumper.
https://www.loudountimes.com/news/man-works-while-accepting-benefits-lies-to-government/article_2cd012de-95ad-5750-a072-0ae758b480b1.html
The local paper is now indicated that it's the same guy:
https://loudounnow.com/2020/11/22/democratic-supervisors-demand-investigation-maskless-cough/johnny99 wrote:
There are some sick people out there of every political persuasion, but the Trump people take the cake.
This sore loser couldn't help himself when he saw two women protesting against Trump, so he went up to them and breathed on them. Got himself arrested and charged with assault. If he's got any family, they must be so proud of him.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/us/man-arrested-trump-golf-club/index.html
I'm always irritated when a liberal does something wacky and many people on the right act as if the offender represents all liberals. It goes both ways.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
johnny99 wrote:
There are some sick people out there of every political persuasion, but the Trump people take the cake.
This sore loser couldn't help himself when he saw two women protesting against Trump, so he went up to them and breathed on them. Got himself arrested and charged with assault. If he's got any family, they must be so proud of him.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/us/man-arrested-trump-golf-club/index.htmlI'm always irritated when a liberal does something wacky and many people on the right act as if the offender represents all liberals. It goes both ways.
Absolutely. It just seems that there's a higher percentage of nutjobs among Trumpers.