Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

1) You are correct that there were protests against Trump winning in 2016. The difference is that those protests didn't deny that he won, and we didn't have the losing candidate denying that she lost.

2) Trump's campaign was under investigation for legitimate reasons. Democrats didn't just make up sh!t. He was investigated, he did every thing he could to stand in the way of that investigation. I accept the finding of the investigation, and you should accept that the Trump Tower meeting alone was reason to have it. I think Trump and especially Don Jr. likely sh!t themselves over worry that they would be found guilty of a crime there, and they are VERY fortunate to have not been.

3) Dude...I do not think Trump lost in 2016. I have NEVER said that. I have indeed said the opposite, and I will say so again right now...Trump won the election in 2016. He DID cheat, but I have never said that cheating caused him to win or invalidated the win. I have ONLY said the cheating invalidated my call that he would lose. The problem with cheating is you can never know for sure (at least in this case) how much the cheating affected the outcome.

4) I did not like the "Not My President" mindset after Trump won in 2016. I never subscribed to that and have never said it or thought it. I KNEW Trump was my President, and I have been disgusted and embarrassed for the US since.

Not sure why you have a stick up your butt about me, brother. You aren't the target of my disgust here. I suggest you focus more on facts rather than feelings and you will have less of an issue with me.

Hillary conceded to Trump.

Obama made a speech about the transition the day after the election.

And he met face-to-face with Trump two days after the election.

There is also the fact of Trump losing the popular vote both times.

At the same time of this transition, there were sanctions placed on Russia for the actual evidence of interference which was confirmed later by the Mueller investigation.

And Trump sent Flynn to discuss sanctions with Russia before he was inaugurated.

Now we are talking about a candidate who lost the electoral vote and the popular vote and who is chasing unsubstantiated fraud claims just because he lost.

And he is withholding information needed for a transition.

This is not comparable to anything from 2016.

You do have a point about Flagpole.

Flagpole wrote:

asdfasdf wrote:

Quit with the misogyny. I called you out about it before but you're never able to take criticism. You repeatedly make negative comments about women, when it's not relevant to the argument. You are clearly a misogynist.

INCORRECT! Whoever you are.

No misogyny.

Hope Hicks has had more Dicks inside her than a Richard convention, and to my count, at least half of them were married. Not misogyny. Truth. I like women who DON'T sleep with married men.

You, again, whoever you are, want to protect her because you are a protective paternalist, which probably means you are Sally posting under a fake name.

If you can't see your own misogyny you are truly a lost cause. I'm not Sally. I hate Trump and his cronies as much as you do. I just think you're unpleasant and inflammatory and I think misogyny should have no place in modern, civilized society. Your similarities to Trump should disturb you.

You were going to get a big CORRECT! from me until that last sentence.

No, he does not have a point about me. I have NEVER said or even thought that Trump was not the legitimate President. He WON the election in 2016. Racket is wrong there about me, and you are also, because he does NOT have a point about me.

asdfasdf wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

INCORRECT! Whoever you are.

No misogyny.

Hope Hicks has had more Dicks inside her than a Richard convention, and to my count, at least half of them were married. Not misogyny. Truth. I like women who DON'T sleep with married men.

You, again, whoever you are, want to protect her because you are a protective paternalist, which probably means you are Sally posting under a fake name.

If you can't see your own misogyny you are truly a lost cause. I'm not Sally. I hate Trump and his cronies as much as you do. I just think you're unpleasant and inflammatory and I think misogyny should have no place in modern, civilized society. Your similarities to Trump should disturb you.

I am not a misogynist at all. I treat women fairly and as equals in all ways. I don't accept men sleeping with married women, and I don't accept women (in this case Hope Hicks) sleeping with married men. She is a horrible person beyond that, of course, but she is a horrible person just because of that. I like women who DON'T sleep with married men.

Yeah...there were lots of people disappointed and dismayed at the election result in 2016, but none of the push back compares at all to what's going on now. Hilary accepted defeat immediately. The Obama Administration cooperated with Trump immediately. We didn't have governors of states calling for electors to go against the will of the people and vote for Trump instead. We didn't have the Democrat Party not accepting Hillary's loss. There just is NO comparison.

There is only CONTRAST. Decent and orderly conduct by Democrats in 2016, and dangerous and indecent conduct by Republicans in 2020.

I agree that the response from the candidates/White House was different in 2016 but don't think that liberals just moved on:

Trollminator wrote:

hard to argue with that wrote:

At this point, this genuinely performance looks set to go down in history as the benchmark against all which all acts of being a bad loser are measured globally.

The only thing that might save him from becoming synonymous with that is later public disclosure of mental health issues.

It is no wonder he's all bunckered up. He can't face much humiliation and prefers to live in his fantasyland. The question is how does he transition out of the WH without getting his feelings too hurt? This is literally what the GOP is most concerned with. Please don't hurt the snowflake dear leader! Beyond pathetic.

It is absolutely insane. Even I am surprised at his inability to see that he has lost this election. While he is an enormous POS, I can only hope that he's doing this just to fleece his idiot supporters and that he doesn't ACTUALLY think he won and will emerge victorious. I don't wish that kind of delusion on anyone.

L L wrote:

All of this talk about Republicans not accepting the results and saying the states should make their own calls on who to commit their electoral votes to regardless of how the people of those states voted is comical.

Four years ago, enough Democrat lead states whose people voted for Trump could have made their electors choose Hillary.

They could simply assign their electors to match the popular vote. Republicans would have gone nuts if they did that.

But they want that in their favor now that they lost?

Trump won in North Carolina, Kentucky and Louisiana.

They all have Democrat governors.

Do you really want some states selectively changing their results based on previous local election results and not how they voted for president?

These are some desperate sore losers.

EXTREMELY desperate. After trying to understand it more, I think across a lot of states it would legally be very difficult for electors to deviate from state law pretty much requiring them to submit all EC votes to the winner of the popular vote in the state. PA is in that boat along with many other states. I don't know how strict GA is.

I am hoping the right keeps pushing this so it can cause a massive public backlash forcing the tightening of the rules or even better a new federal law.

Flagpole wrote:

asdfasdf wrote:

If you can't see your own misogyny you are truly a lost cause. I'm not Sally. I hate Trump and his cronies as much as you do. I just think you're unpleasant and inflammatory and I think misogyny should have no place in modern, civilized society. Your similarities to Trump should disturb you.

I am not a misogynist at all. I treat women fairly and as equals in all ways. I don't accept men sleeping with married women, and I don't accept women (in this case Hope Hicks) sleeping with married men. She is a horrible person beyond that, of course, but she is a horrible person just because of that. I like women who DON'T sleep with married men.

You "like" women but call them WHORES when they try to improve their lives and the lives of their kids. "Betty" has had a tough life. She had a couple of kids when she was young. The father abandoned them. One child has autism. The other child has serious health issues. Betty meets a well-off man and pursues him. They hit it off and marry. This man can help Betty and her kids and they no longer have to sleep on the streets. To you Betty is a WHORE.

Mods, maybe it is time to shut down this thread. I don't think this thread is in the spirit of LRC. There is a lot of hateful and violent rhetoric within these posts.

Does the site want kids visiting this thread?

Those are very solid predictions.

Here are mine as compared to yours:

1) Agreed.

2) Agreed. I suggest the reason is to try to monetize that.

3) I think FOX and NewsMax and some others might try for a while to keep him relevant, but I think that will quickly die out...within a year of Biden taking office, it will just be about blasting Biden and pumping up other Republicans who might take him on in 2024.

4) He will do this for a while until it is clear people aren't that into him.

5) I would say SOME rather than MANY.

6) Agreed.

7) I agree that he will have some legal issues and that some of them may take years. I think some ducks are in a row to go get him very soon though. Time will tell.

8) I agree that he will have serious financial trouble. This will be part of the reason he will never be elected again to any office, and it will also be what keeps his idiot children from ever winning the Presidency.

9) I THINK you are right that Trump will not be eligible to run in 2024, but as of today I am not confident enough about that to declare it. I would add Marco Rubio to that list. I think Tucker Carlson will get his ass handed to him if he runs. I can't see him getting the nomination. If Don Jr. wins the nomination, Biden will destroy him in 2024. Donald Trump is an original...an original a$$hole, and Don Jr. won't have that kind of pull even with the same name.

10) I would be very happy to see Harris win the Presidency. I think she is super smart, hardworking and a decent person, and she would be fantastic as the President. I'm still not sure Americans will vote for a woman for President just yet though. Even our very progressive party had it down to two white men at the end. It is hard to imagine Biden will want another 4 years as President, but I don't have a sense of what he will do just yet.

highhoppingworm wrote:

Your post doesn’t make a lot of sense Sally.

1) Your statement there could apply to ANY of Sally's posts.

2) It, though, should be rewritten as follows: "You post doesn't make ANY sense, Sally."

CORRECT!

asdfasdf wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Ok...well, I know enough about Hope Hicks' hole stuffing to last a lifetime, so you can keep any more knowledge you have about that to yourself. I don't need to know.

Quit with the misogyny. I called you out about it before but you're never able to take criticism. You repeatedly make negative comments about women, when it's not relevant to the argument. You are clearly a misogynist.

Your offensive, combative nature doesn't help anyone.

Yup. True colors.

Trollminator wrote:

The Trump sycophant demanded to know why Republicans don’t “just say we’re not going to accept the results of this election.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-business-lou-dobbs-donald-trump-2020-election_n_5fafa3f3c5b68baab0fc7e31

That is ridiculous. Dobbs should be charged with Sedition.

Trollminator wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Your list is very telling. You have one line about Biden and the rest is all about Trump. You reveal how little you think about Biden and your awareness of Biden's incompetence. And you reveal your obsession with Trump.

Did you think?

See edit above in bold. Nope. Sally didn't think because he is incapable of that.

Just Wundrin wrote:

asdfasdf wrote:

Quit with the misogyny. I called you out about it before but you're never able to take criticism. You repeatedly make negative comments about women, when it's not relevant to the argument. You are clearly a misogynist.

Your offensive, combative nature doesn't help anyone.

Yup. True colors.

Flagpole can't take criticism? Are you crazy??? He thrives on criticism. He welcomes criticism like a mother who lost her only son and he returns home 5 years later. Flagpole yearns for even more criticism than the criticism already thrust at him. He knows that constructive criticism is the best kind of criticism and he takes that criticism, re-examines himself, and uses that criticism to re-mold himself into a better person. He never balks at criticism. He never attacks those who criticize him. He EMBRACES the most biting criticism like a big bear might hug his young'un. Flagpole THIRSTS for criticism.